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post #1861 of 5086
Fairfaxgator, my center and surrounds are 8 ohms while my fronts are 6 ohms and I have no problems with the 1019.
post #1862 of 5086
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Originally Posted by DinoT View Post

hernanu,
I will try this at home. I understand completely where you are coming from. I know that I am set to have native off and force 1080p. I did this because with native on, channel changes were a bit of a pain since you'd have to wait for the re-synching.
I wish Pioneer would make firmware updates available to end users. This problem screams of a firmware upgrade to fix.
There was a bug on the Elite VSX-94TXH that I seem to recall. It was only a problem with the display on the AVR and it happened with certain blu-rays with DTS-MA 7.1. But this too could have been easily solved with a code upgrade.

Thanks,
Dino

I tried turning Native On and it made no difference. I also swapped the HDMI cable. I have not tried the optical yet.
I noticed the following behavior. Once I get 2 channel PCM to work, it doesn't stop working until I power off the receiver. I can change channels between dolby digital stations and 2 channel PCM and they all work. If it were a problem with the HDMI handshake, would the problem not always occur?
Also, if I power up the AVR and the DirecTV receiver is on a 2 channel PCM station, it will work. 2 channel PCM does not work when I power up the AVR and the DirecTV receiver is on a dolby digital station.
One last observation....When 2 channel PCM does not work, PCM does not display on the front panel. When I force it to work, (such as changing inputs on the AVR or going into the menu and exiting) the PCM light will come on.

I think that I will return the unit. I was taking more precise measurements today and it looks like the VSX-21TXH might just barely fit. So for just under $200 I will go that route. Especially if I grab some 90 degree HDMI cables. I really, really hope that the 21TXH doesn't have the same problem.
post #1863 of 5086
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Originally Posted by DinoT View Post

I tried turning Native On and it made no difference. I also swapped the HDMI cable. I have not tried the optical yet.
I noticed the following behavior. Once I get 2 channel PCM to work, it doesn't stop working until I power off the receiver. I can change channels between dolby digital stations and 2 channel PCM and they all work. If it were a problem with the HDMI handshake, would the problem not always occur?
Also, if I power up the AVR and the DirecTV receiver is on a 2 channel PCM station, it will work. 2 channel PCM does not work when I power up the AVR and the DirecTV receiver is on a dolby digital station.
One last observation....When 2 channel PCM does not work, PCM does not display on the front panel. When I force it to work, (such as changing inputs on the AVR or going into the menu and exiting) the PCM light will come on.

I think that I will return the unit. I was taking more precise measurements today and it looks like the VSX-21TXH might just barely fit. So for just under $200 I will go that route. Especially if I grab some 90 degree HDMI cables. I really, really hope that the 21TXH doesn't have the same problem.

Sounds like a good move, something's wrong with that unit. Like I said, all channels work on mine but that one channel.

Good luck, the 21txh is a great receiver.
post #1864 of 5086
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Originally Posted by fairfaxgator View Post

I am thinking of getting the 1019 (as well as Polk Audio Monitor series speakers (CS1, 30s, 50s, and PSW10 sub). I have heard that the 1019 does not handle lower ohm impendance very well. I am looking at the Polk Audio Center Channel CS1 speaker...specs listed below. Will I have problems using the 1019 with the CS1? Thanks.

Model
Brand Polk Audio
Model CS1 Cherry
Spec
Type Center Channel Speaker
Sold As Single
Driver Units Mid/Woofer: 2 - 5.25" Diameter, Dynamic Balance Bi-laminate composite cone drivers, magnetically shielded

Tweeter: 1 - 1" Diameter, Dynamic Balance Silk/polymer composite dome, magnetically shielded
Power Rating 20 - 125 w/channel
Frequency Response 55Hz - 25kHz
Nominal Impedance 8 ohms
Sensitivity 89 dB
Connectors 5-way binding posts
Dimensions & Weight 7" x 18" x 9.63"

13.00 lbs.
Features
Features Non-resonant all-MDF enclosure construction with 0.75"-thick baffles ensures cleaner, clearer, more lifelike sound quality.

Reversible-design cabinets can be turned upside down to aim "up" when placed under a video monitor.

Magnetic shielding for safe placement near TVs with no risk of video distortion.

Crossover: 2.3kHz, second order high and low pass

Enclosure Type: Vented via rear-mounted flared port

Impedance of 8 ohms is not low; the 1019 can handle 8 or 6 ohm speakers - all other ratings, including the sensitivity of 89 db are fine. The 1019 is fine for those speakers.
post #1865 of 5086
Thank you both Knoles and Hernanu.

Makes my decision easier as I will save over $400 in getting the Polk Monitor Series speakers over Polk's new line.
post #1866 of 5086
Hey all

I got the VSX-1019AH-K a few months ago and everything seem to be working fine, even though this was my first receiver ever and I have no clear idea of what I am doing and the manual is not that helpful.

I have:
Sharp Aquos LC52D85U
Sony DVD-R RDR-HX780
Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4250HD
PS3 Slim

Everything is connected to the 1019 via HDMI, except by the Explorer 4250HD, which is using Component Cables (the HDMI output does not seem to be working for some reason).

Now here is my problem: my 1019 always turn on the PS3! Here's what I do:
1 - Turn on TV
2 - Turn on Cable Box
3 - Turn on 1019
4 - Press the DVD button of the remote (which is assigned to the cable box)
and the 1019 switches to the PS3 and turns it on. Even if I press the DVD button on the remote, it keeps switching it back to the PS3 until the PS3 fully boots up, then I can fully switch back to cable TV.

I found this really irritating and I cannot find a way out of this. Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this problem?

Many thanks in advance!

Misterbatata
post #1867 of 5086
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Originally Posted by fairfaxgator View Post

Thank you both Knoles and Hernanu.

Makes my decision easier as I will save over $400 in getting the Polk Monitor Series speakers over Polk's new line.

This member was not happy with the Pioneer/Polk monitor combo. I would have to agree with him that it was most likely his dissatisfaction with the speakers and not the Pioneer.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post17291082

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1184787
post #1868 of 5086
Is anyone still having problems using the remote to powerup the receiver? I get this issue here and there. Pioneer wants me to bring it in for service but that is a pain and I don't know if they can fix an intermitant problem like this. Are newer units OK? does anyone know of a firmware upgrade that solves this?
post #1869 of 5086
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Originally Posted by misterbatata View Post

Hey all

I got the VSX-1019AH-K a few months ago and everything seem to be working fine, even though this was my first receiver ever and I have no clear idea of what I am doing and the manual is not that helpful.

I have:
Sharp Aquos LC52D85U
Sony DVD-R RDR-HX780
Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4250HD
PS3 Slim

Everything is connected to the 1019 via HDMI, except by the Explorer 4250HD, which is using Component Cables (the HDMI output does not seem to be working for some reason).

Now here is my problem: my 1019 always turn on the PS3! Here's what I do:
1 - Turn on TV
2 - Turn on Cable Box
3 - Turn on 1019
4 - Press the DVD button of the remote (which is assigned to the cable box)
and the 1019 switches to the PS3 and turns it on. Even if I press the DVD button on the remote, it keeps switching it back to the PS3 until the PS3 fully boots up, then I can fully switch back to cable TV.

I found this really irritating and I cannot find a way out of this. Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this problem?

Many thanks in advance!

Misterbatata

Turn the KURO link off in the 1019, see if that takes care of this issue.
post #1870 of 5086
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Originally Posted by Lugie View Post

Is anyone still having problems using the remote to powerup the receiver? I get this issue here and there. Pioneer wants me to bring it in for service but that is a pain and I don't know if they can fix an intermitant problem like this. Are newer units OK? does anyone know of a firmware upgrade that solves this?

My unit delivered about three weeks ago has no such problems.
post #1871 of 5086
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lugie View Post

Is anyone still having problems using the remote to powerup the receiver? I get this issue here and there. Pioneer wants me to bring it in for service but that is a pain and I don't know if they can fix an intermitant problem like this. Are newer units OK? does anyone know of a firmware upgrade that solves this?

I have had the same problem with my Elite VSX-21TXH. It seems this is a problem across all of these new Pioneer receivers. Anyone else out there have power issues with the remote not wanting to work?
post #1872 of 5086
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Originally Posted by Lugie View Post

Is anyone still having problems using the remote to powerup the receiver? I get this issue here and there.

a few times for me as well, but not often.

I'm not using a universal remote, but after about a month of using the Pioneer remote exclusively, I programmed my Tivo remote to control the on/off cycling of the Pioneer receiver. Ever since I did that, I haven't encountered a single instance of the receiver not powering up (or down/off) when using the Tivo remote. This suggests it's solely a Pioneer remote issue, but of course, my one user example does not a definitive answer make.
post #1873 of 5086
Hi


I just got a 1019, I was going through the post,

Is it a good idea to disable Kuro Link right from the get go, when setting it up.
Its somthing I'll probably never use anyways.

Thanks
post #1874 of 5086
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Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

a few times for me as well, but not often.

I'm not using a universal remote, but after about a month of using the Pioneer remote exclusively, I programmed my Tivo remote to control the on/off cycling of the Pioneer receiver. Ever since I did that, I haven't encountered a single instance of the receiver not powering up (or down/off) when using the Tivo remote. This suggests it's solely a Pioneer remote issue, but of course, my one user example does not a definitive answer make.

I do have a weird Pioneer remote issue too. Even though I've turned off Kuro link on my receiver and BDP 320, the 1019 remote still controls basic playback functions on the 320 except power off and on. The receiver remote even controls some PQ and AQ settings on the 320. But the 320 remote does not control any function on the receiver.

Just to be double sure, I turned on and turned off Kuro link on both units several times but its still happening.
post #1875 of 5086
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Originally Posted by willyqbc View Post

Hi


I just got a 1019, I was going through the post,

Is it a good idea to disable Kuro Link right from the get go, when setting it up.
Its somthing I'll probably never use anyways.

Thanks

yes.
post #1876 of 5086
Quote:
Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

a few times for me as well, but not often.

I'm not using a universal remote, but after about a month of using the Pioneer remote exclusively, I programmed my Tivo remote to control the on/off cycling of the Pioneer receiver. Ever since I did that, I haven't encountered a single instance of the receiver not powering up (or down/off) when using the Tivo remote. This suggests it's solely a Pioneer remote issue, but of course, my one user example does not a definitive answer make.

It could be a remote issue, but I tend to believe it might very well be a firmware issue with the receiver itself. I use a Logitech Harmony One and after programming the Harmony with the Pioneer codes, I still had the power issue while I had KURO LINK turned off. I ended up turning the KURO LINK on as I had read elsewhere and it fixed the power issue for me, but that is not the optimal solution. KURO LINK being on does disable your ability to do certain things with the receiver that a vast majority of people actually need to do, so it's not the recommended solution. I emailed Pioneer about this issue, since it seems to affect more than one model. I will come back and post their response if/when they send one. I'd really hate to have to go through the hassle of returning this thing and buying something else, as it is a pain in the @$$ to unhook everything at this point.
post #1877 of 5086
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Actually, since your fronts (the SS-F6000's) are floorstanding speakers, and have a decent range (40-50K), they should be set to large. You might set the center to small, since it has a 85-30KHz range. The rears are 80-30KHz so they should be small. Set the sub to Plus, so you send bass to the fronts and to the sub as well.

As to the center, you can adjust the center level (I increased mine by 2 db to get the center better set).

You can also adjust the equalization by using the Advanced manual MCACC adjustment to change the level of the frequencies (spoken, etc.) that you want to emphasize.

Thanks! I did as you suggested and the sound is much improved. However, I set the center level to +10db. I can hear movie dialogue much better but the sound is somewhat hollow and boomy. But at least I can hear the actor's words much clearer now even with the master volume at -20db. This is very important for me as I watch a lot more drama than action movies. It does seem that one does not derive much benefit from buying drama movies in BD save for the visuals. Its more with the action genre that the HD audio specs really come into full use.

One more question - is it dangerous for my receiver or speakers to increase the master volume beyond -0 ?
post #1878 of 5086
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Originally Posted by blacklion View Post

Thanks! I did as you suggested and the sound is much improved. However, I set the center level to +10db. I can hear movie dialogue much better but the sound is somewhat hollow and boomy. But at least I can hear the actor's words much clearer now even with the master volume at -20db. This is very important for me as I watch a lot more drama than action movies. It does seem that one does not derive much benefit from buying drama movies in BD save for the visuals. Its more with the action genre that the HD audio specs really come into full use.

One more question - is it dangerous for my receiver or speakers to increase the master volume beyond -0 ?

To get rid of the boomy sound from the center, you may want to lower the center level and instead adjust the equalization at different frequencies. If you go in there, you can adjust output at any of the 9 frequencies provided, which may improve your dialogue issues without pushing your center too hard. See pg. 86 of the manual on how to do it, it's a great feature of this AVR.

Setting your volume so high (0) may be problematic for both speakers and the 1019, since high volumes is where you get distortion that can lead to speaker or amp failure. The volume as it's provided on the 1019 / 919 is keyed to a reference setting of 0. The value at 0 is equal to the loudness in a movie theater. So if you crank up to 0, you are trying to get to the same volume as when a movie is shown in a theater.

This is why most home setups don't come anywhere near that. Mine certainly doesn't, I usually keep my settings between -40 to -25 for TV, most movie watching; if everyone is out of the house and I want to rock the room with Transformers or Titan AE, I may push it to -18 or -17, but that is as loud as I need it.

If you still have issues with sound, you may want in the longer term to upgrade your speakers. For now, though the 1019 gives you ways to customize that may avoid that.
post #1879 of 5086
Ok mine set up PS3 ok, Just have no sound over hdmi, through cable box,
Sci antlanta, I'll try disabling kuros, if not working might just have to go optical.
So If I leave HDMI straight to tv from cable, will be easy for kid and gf to just turn on tube for quick watching with sound from tv.

So If I run optical from cable box or tv I should just put in in a optical in to the amp, right?
and when I toggle through which source will it be to play the optical like aux or dvd or opt, somthing like that. I havnt memorized the remote yet so sorry if I sound lame, I aint a techy person either so please bare with me.

I ran the MMC speaker calibration which went ok, but then in the lower portion of gui screen I just kinda glanced at set up and do really know what to do in there. Is there a way to fix the audio over hdmi maybe, or maybe a handshake issue thing like in previous posts.
I would suffice with optical if there is no pass through since its only tv shows and when the amp is off sound would be coming from tv speakers
post #1880 of 5086
OK.... after reading all 60+ pages and not really finding the questions or answersI was looking for I will ust ask. Sorry if this has already been addressed.

What I gather is the 1019 will upscale component or composite input to 1080 HDMI out, correct.???

I want to use the AVR as the central unit. Plug in several game consoles of diffent vintage,sat.tv,dvd, and play tv/audio through the stereo system.

Will the game controls be slow reacting on the tv?

Thanks for the help A.
post #1881 of 5086
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Originally Posted by Anylizer View Post

Will the game controls be slow reacting on the tv?

I've played Guitar Hero and my kids have played various other games on the Wii, which makes a Component -> HDMI loop through the 1019. No noticeable lag in the display relative to the game controllers.
post #1882 of 5086
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Originally Posted by vttom View Post

I've played Guitar Hero and my kids have played various other games on the Wii, which makes a Component -> HDMI loop through the 1019. No noticeable lag in the display relative to the game controllers.



Thank you for the feed back!!!
post #1883 of 5086
Its ok, I hooked up optical from cbl box to amp sat/cbl opti in.
it will suffice since our cable here doesnt do 5.1 anyways. only DD.

probably a hdcp issue.

So I am gonna keep reading this thread for a bit to understand more about its features, ect.

Verry happy with the unit so far as it all seems to work nicely, Listened to a
5.1 dvd audio disc relaxed afterwards and beathed a sign of releif, lol

I spend a couble of days fiddleing around with a Denon 790 and the manual is like 10 more immpossible to understand. and ended up switching for this amp which I am really glad I did, after finding out it is easily more tweakable than a Denon.
post #1884 of 5086
So on the upscaling ..... it may not be any better than direct to the plasma, but still better than on an old crt type tv???
A.
post #1885 of 5086
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Originally Posted by Anylizer View Post

So on the upscaling ..... it may not be any better than direct to the tv, but still better than SD???

A.

I think if you've got something else in the path from your component to (and including) the TV that can upscale, it will likely do a better job. The upscaling that the 1019 does is middling, but if nothing else is available, then it does an Ok job. Most newer HDTVs probably do a better job, and I would definitely rely on a Bluray, HD-DVD or (newer) DVD player for upscaling if possible.

Try the 1019's upscaling and compare with your TV's or cable box.
post #1886 of 5086
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

I think if you've got something else in the path from your component to (and including) the TV that can upscale, it will likely do a better job. The upscaling that the 1019 does is middling, but if nothing else is available, then it does an Ok job. Most newer HDTVs probably do a better job, and I would definitely rely on a Bluray, HD-DVD or (newer) DVD player for upscaling if possible.

Try the 1019's upscaling and compare with your TV's or cable box.

Thank you very much.

I haven't purchased the 1019 yet but it is the one I have been reviewing. I think this will be the best suited for my needs. A.
post #1887 of 5086
I have about a 7 in gap from the avr to the next shelf, it's all open in the back, anyone think this may be a problem?
post #1888 of 5086
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Originally Posted by eddysnake View Post

I have about a 7 in gap from the avr to the next shelf, it's all open in the back, anyone think this may be a problem?

Should be fine, if there's an issue, there are fans that you can buy that will deal with getting the heat away from the unit.
post #1889 of 5086
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Originally Posted by BadMF222 View Post

It could be a remote issue, but I tend to believe it might very well be a firmware issue with the receiver itself. I use a Logitech Harmony One and after programming the Harmony with the Pioneer codes, I still had the power issue while I had KURO LINK turned off. I ended up turning the KURO LINK on as I had read elsewhere and it fixed the power issue for me, but that is not the optimal solution. KURO LINK being on does disable your ability to do certain things with the receiver that a vast majority of people actually need to do, so it's not the recommended solution. I emailed Pioneer about this issue, since it seems to affect more than one model. I will come back and post their response if/when they send one. I'd really hate to have to go through the hassle of returning this thing and buying something else, as it is a pain in the @$$ to unhook everything at this point.

I definitly think it's the AVR and not the remote - my Harmony and the stock remote are equally useless in turning it on. I thought it seemed to happen when I hadn't used the receiver in a few days but then it happens from one day to the next. My email to Pioneer merely resulted in them asking me to take it to a service depot, no confirmation of guilt or any potential resolution. I was hoping that one of us had had their unit flashed/repaired as a definitive solution.
I'm going to try the kurolink trick - although that disables asigning audio to an optical input instead of HDMI - which I may need to do because my Oppo 983 is having dropouts. I'm begining to think HDMI is not ready for prime time.
post #1890 of 5086
After getting fed up with my current Harman/Kardon AVR-254 for constantly dropping the audio off the HDMI inputs , I just picked up the 1019AH. So far it's been pretty sweet, a little confusing on the setup but I have it mostly figured out. One thing I can't seem to find and it possibly just doesn't do this, but is their a way to show the status of how the AVR is outputting the video, for example on my old AVR-254 I could hit the info button and it would show "Video from source 1080p" and "Video to output "1080p"?
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