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post #2911 of 5122
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

Speakers are very personal, but for years KEF's have enjoyed an excellent reputation, and their KHT-2005.3 set is well regarded in its class. On paper it is an excellent match with the 919.

Thanks, I'm really happy to hear that.
post #2912 of 5122
zervinb, regarding standby/power off, you might want to consider something like this (there are many different kinds available). They turn everything but the receiver (or TV, if you prefer) off, leaving only one device on standby. I've found these very useful in several setups around my house.
post #2913 of 5122
zerb, just a question, why did you choose the 919? instead of the 1019? or 9040? (same as vsx 21).
post #2914 of 5122
Thanks Macfan for that link. I was thinking something along the lines of a power strip/surge protector but I wasn't aware that there automatic ones also available with auto-switch off. However, in my case, first and foremost, I would have to get a voltage downconverter since the voltage in my country (India) is 220volts, and the receiver is set to 120volts. I've seen pictures on the net of the rear of European models of the 1019 and the 919 which use 220volts power. The Australian model also has a switch to change between 120 and 220volts. Really wish I could get one of those. But the price of the American model is unbeatable. Plus, I don't have relatives in Europe/Australia.

I'm not much of an electrical guy, so I don't know if I'll be able to use the surge protector along with the voltage downconverter. Will check my local market if there's any such device which will help in doing both simultaneously. I'm sure I'll be able to stumble upon something.

Thanks for all the help though.
post #2915 of 5122
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Originally Posted by DirtyDeeds View Post

zerb, just a question, why did you choose the 919? instead of the 1019? or 9040? (same as vsx 21).

Well, my dad and me were researching together online, which model we wanted to purchase. We were pretty sure of going in for a Pioneer, as we had once had a Pioneer Hi-Fi system and the sound of that Pioneer was much "sweeter" as compared to the Sony systems that we had over the years. My dad is a Western Classical music fanatic, so more than the Bass of rock or jazz, we were interested in getting a receiver which would enhance mid-range and higher frequencies, while also not giving up lower frequencies altogether (they are also important in marches).

We read a few reviews of the Pioneers, Yamahas, Denons, and I also stumbled upon AVSForum at the same time. From what we gathered, we felt the Pioneer suited us the most. We would have a 5.1 setup but wanted a 7.1 receiver in case we wanted to upgrade in the future (don't think we will though, might use a Zone 2 later)

Dad wanted to go in for the 1019 definitely. But, it was $100 more than the 919. And on comparing the 919 with the 1019, I was able to find that the 1019 only had video-upscaling, which according to the members on this thread, was not as good as the upscaling carried out by LCDs themselves. Plus, we would be adding a PS3 for blu-ray and DVD upconverting capabilities. So, having video-upscaling just for the cable box did not seem worthy of $100.

Plus, the fact that the Amp section inside both of them is the same and sound output does not differ at all between them. iPod in Zone 2 is not too much of a problem, and does have a workaround in that the iPod can be connected to one of the analog inputs for hearing it in Zone 2. We would not be needing the extra HDMI input, since our cable box does not have HDMI. Believe it or not, but 1080p is still NOT that big in India. We hardly have 2 television channels in HD (I think National Geographic and FOX). HDMI on cable boxes is almost unheard of. In fact, I called up the company asking if they would be upgrading their boxes in the future to support HDMI and HD, but they gave a very "irritating" (could not think of any other word) response, that the technology was not yet fully developed in India to provide HD.

Heck, blu-rays have only recently started here (about a year back at the most). Most people still prefer DVDs over blu-rays. Sony markets the BDP-S300 and BDP-S350 (obsolete models in the US) over here. And that too, costing Rs.25,000 (approx $550). The switch to blu-ray is only just beginning in India.

So, for all these reasons (sorry guys, HUGE post), I selected the 919 over the 1019, as I felt the extra features were not worth the extra $100.
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And if anyone's wondering, Pioneer only markets the 519 in India. Maybe, it does not expect people here to have more than 5.1 channel setups in their homes.
post #2917 of 5122
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Originally Posted by zervinb View Post

And if anyone's wondering, Pioneer only markets the 519 in India. Maybe, it does not expect people here to have more than 5.1 channel setups in their homes.

At the risk of diverting the thread - this post and your immediate previous are very interesting. Goes to show how the internet is making nonsense of traditional marketing models and anti-competitive practices like region coding. With the internet, people can shop around the world for better prices and for goods not available in their country. Companies like Oppo and JVC will thrive in this brave new world - their products are multi-voltage and multi-region.
post #2918 of 5122
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

Perhaps what you need is a better center channel speaker.

I second that opinion. I was very unhappy with dialogue out of my cental channel until I finally broke down and bought a decent center channel speaker. That made ALL the difference!
post #2919 of 5122
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Originally Posted by vttom View Post

I second that opinion. I was very unhappy with dialogue out of my cental channel until I finally broke down and bought a decent center channel speaker. That made ALL the difference!

OK, noted. Any suggestions or recommendations of a center speaker that will go well with the 1019?

Macfan, I will do as you suggest and experiment with the dialog enhancement and increasing center channel levels. If not happy, I'll get a new center speaker and try that too.
post #2920 of 5122
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Originally Posted by blacklion View Post

At the risk of diverting the thread - this post and your immediate previous are very interesting.

There is a lesser risk of this thread being diverted as compared to you experiencing hearing loss

But what you say is absolutely true. The internet has been a boon, and I only wish to see a day when there is NO region coding, NO NTSC/PAL diversity (this has already been overcome with 1080p), NO voltage differences.

Thank God, receivers are not region-coded
Else, we would have had a nice female voice announcing over the speakers: "This song can only be played back in REGION #". Heck
post #2921 of 5122
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Originally Posted by blacklion View Post

OK, noted. Any suggestions or recommendations of a center speaker that will go well with the 1019?

Macfan, I will do as you suggest and experiment with the dialog enhancement and increasing center channel levels. If not happy, I'll get a new center speaker and try that too.

It's less a matter of one that works with the 1019 (most will), but one that blends well with your other speakers. If you ever posted what speakers you have, I've forgotten.
post #2922 of 5122
Question . . .. Just set up a my 1019 to a Sony BDP 460 blu ray player and it only outputs sound in PCM . . . even with movies that have True HD audio. I hear surround sound but how do I know if I'm getting True HD?
post #2923 of 5122
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

Your JBL "home cinema" speakers probably don't go down below 150Hz, so you might want to experiment with various crossover points.

A high crossover (above ~100Hz) heightens the possibility of localization of the bass, plus you don't want to handicap your fronts for the benefit of the rears. I'd try 80Hz and 100Hz, maybe even 150Hz, and see how it sounds. Many systems have "holes" in the surround bass field, and the owners don't notice, so I wouldn't worry about a crossover that is "too low" for the JBLs. However, if you decide your Axioms are better "Large", raise the crossover to at least 150Hz. Large speakers are not affected by the crossover setting.

I found the paperwork for the ten year old JBL "home cinema" set. There wasn't a lot of data, but I did see the freq response as being 35 Hz to 20,000 Hz.

I re-ran MCACC with the crossover set to 150 Hz. It still wants to set the fronts to large but did include the JBL subwoofer this time. (When run with the crossover set to 80 Hz it grayed out the SW.) I think the speakers sound better with the crossover set to 150 Hz. I didn't have time for any more testing, maybe next weekend.
post #2924 of 5122
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Originally Posted by sdenby View Post

Question . . .. Just set up a my 1019 to a Sony BDP 460 blu ray player and it only outputs sound in PCM . . . even with movies that have True HD audio. I hear surround sound but how do I know if I'm getting True HD?

The BDP 460 can output bitstream over HDMI, how are you connected to the 1019? Unless I read wrong, it can decode TrueHD, but can only bitstream DTS-HD MA.

It seems your best bet would be to use HDMI connections, bitstream everything and let the 1019 do the decoding.

I think you want to set the BD Audio Settings to "Direct" (Pg.58 of the 460 Users Guide). After you connect by HDMI.
post #2925 of 5122
Help - newbie owner of 1019
Im trying HDMI - HD PVR >> 1019 >> Samsung 540. No picture.
And i tried to check inputs - for , i removed digital (0ff) or component connection (off) but tv/sat has no HDMI option??

Am i doing something wrong?
my Blu ray connects fine with receiver. I checked the HDMI cable.
When i connect the HD PVR to the TV directly, it works ... arrghhh.
thanks for help
post #2926 of 5122
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Originally Posted by Karokan View Post

Help - newbie owner of 1019
Im trying HDMI - HD PVR >> 1019 >> Samsung 540. No picture.
And i tried to check inputs - for , i removed digital (0ff) or component connection (off) but tv/sat has no HDMI option??

Am i doing something wrong?
my Blu ray connects fine with receiver. I checked the HDMI cable.
When i connect the HD PVR to the TV directly, it works ... arrghhh.
thanks for help

Shut down Kuro Link. That will allow you to select the HDMI connection.

You want to use the function mapping. Check page 39 of the manual on how to do this. Make sure that the HDMI out is enabled from your PVR.

Make sure that you map the TV/Sat function to the HDMI input (1,2,3) that you connect the PVR to. Hopefully that fixes the issue.
post #2927 of 5122
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Originally Posted by Karokan View Post

Help - newbie owner of 1019
Im trying HDMI - HD PVR >> 1019 >> Samsung 540. No picture.
And i tried to check inputs - for , i removed digital (0ff) or component connection (off) but tv/sat has no HDMI option??

Am i doing something wrong?
my Blu ray connects fine with receiver. I checked the HDMI cable.
When i connect the HD PVR to the TV directly, it works ... arrghhh.
thanks for help

Turn OFF Kuro Link (Page 62 of the manual)
Press Receiver then Home Menu >> System Setup >> Other Setup >> KURO LINK >> set to OFF

Then go into the Input Setup menu (its in the same System setup menu). Select the input function you wish to change (in your case it will be TV/Sat). You can change the name (for eg. Television OR Cable Box). Then in HDMI input, select the HDMI input number you have connected your HD PVR to.

And you should be good to go.
post #2928 of 5122
Did just that - just sound - still no picture
Kuro off
changed TV to HDMI-3.
Hit TV button on remote - no picture just sound.

How do i ensure HDMI out is enabled? im thinking it should be already
post #2929 of 5122
^ ^ ^ ^

Did you get the GUI working on your TV? I'm sure you did, as you were able to change the Input Settings.

What hernanu and I posted should be your solution.
post #2930 of 5122
Hi zervin
actually the TV has no image whatsoever ie no even the GUI (just noise).
I changed the input on the small screen of the pioneer itself.
I guess something is wrong if I cant the GUI itself on the TV?
post #2931 of 5122
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Originally Posted by Karokan View Post

Hi zervin
actually the TV has no image whatsoever ie no even the GUI (just noise).
I changed the input on the small screen of the pioneer itself.
I guess something is wrong if I cant the GUI itself on the TV?

No GUI? But in your first post, you said your blu-ray player connected fine with the receiver. So were you able to get the blu-ray player's signal on the television through your receiver?

NOTE: By GUI, I mean Graphical User Interface, i.e. the Home Menu of the receiver.

I wasn't aware that it is possible to use the front panel display to change inputs and perform other functions usually done by the GUI.

This is weird. If you're able to see the blu-ray player through the receiver, there's no reason why you should not be able to see the GUI.

Could you describe in detail the various connections you have made between all the different components? The cables you are using and which connectors you've connected them to. Then, maybe we'll be able to get to the bottom of this.

EDIT: Just a hunch, but is your Zone 2 on? When you put off the receiver, does something like Zone 2 appear on the front panel display? There's a small footnote in the manual which I just noticed: "When you set ZONE 2 to ON, you can't use the Home Menu."
post #2932 of 5122
All HDMI (im using the ones from Monoprice - orange ones)

HD PVR out >> 1019 in [HDMI 3 slot]
1019 out >> 58" Samsung 540 in
BD >> 1019 [BD slot]

I guess i could always connect the HD PVR directly to TV with HDMI and then HD PVR audio to receiver via optical? Would the sound and the picture match in this case?

I've even tried switching the devices on in different order - i read somewhere sometimes there is handshaking issues. Dont want to return the pioneer as the sound sounds really good
post #2933 of 5122
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Originally Posted by Karokan View Post

I guess i could always connect the HD PVR directly to TV with HDMI and then HD PVR audio to receiver via optical? Would the sound and the picture match in this case?

I've even tried switching the devices on in different order - i read somewhere sometimes there is handshaking issues. Dont want to return the pioneer as the sound sounds really good

You could do that, the video and the audio would match. But the way that you have connected the components is correct. There's no reason why the Home Menu should not come up when you press Receiver then Home Menu.

You say the blu-ray works fine. Maybe, there IS a handshake issue between your cable box and the receiver. Have you tried connecting the HDMI from the cable box to a different HDMI input (other than HDMI 3)?

Wait a second. Have you tried switching to HDMI 3 directly instead of using TV/Sat? Press the HDMI button on your remote repeatedly till HDMI 3 comes up. That should show you the input connected to HDMI 3.

Hope this works.
post #2934 of 5122
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Originally Posted by Karokan View Post

I've even tried switching the devices on in different order - i read somewhere sometimes there is handshaking issues. Dont want to return the pioneer as the sound sounds really good

Normally changing the power-on sequence does the trick. So if that's not working try a few more things. I would even try difference HDMI cables just to be sure.

Does the PVR work when connected directly to the TV? If the Blu-Ray player is working try putting the PVR into that HDMI slot just as a test.

If your PVR has component video and optical audio out you could go that route if all else fails.
post #2935 of 5122
So my roommates have encountered a problem a couple of times with our 1019 wherein nothing but loud static comes out from the speakers. I wasn't there either time, and I haven't had a chance to play around with it to try and force the event, but from what I was told, the commonality was this:

1. The receiver had been set to one of the advanced surround sound options.
2. Then, a source was accessed that only output stereo (in one case, our TV, in the other the ps3 once it began running a ps2 game).
3. Then, nothing but loud static would come out through the speakers until 1.) the receiver was set to stereo or autosurround AND 2.) the source was turned off and then on again.

Now, from there, if the receiver was already on stereo when the tv/ps2 was activated, they could change it and access any of the std or adv surround sound options without any problem. But apparently, if it was already on a surround sound setting, that was problematic.

Now obviously, I need to look at it and do some experimentation, but I was wondering if that was just the way that it was or if there was something wrong settings-wise with a device or the receiver itself.

Additionally, is there any way to make sure the 1019 goes back to autosurround when switching sources or restarting the receiver instead of remembering the previous setting?
post #2936 of 5122
Hey guys,
I just got my 1019 the other day and have it all set up to 7.1 surround. Also got a Samsung ln52b750 LCD, Samsung BD-P1600 and a stand. The speakers are some nonsense Aiwa's with surrounds and center being from my previous HTIB Yamaha 6.1 setup. Anyway, I cant for the life of me figure out how to get this thing in 7 ch stereo... My old Yamaha as well as my fathers Yamaha and my buddies Denon all do multi channel stereo (6ch or 5ch). I really liked watching tv and listening to music in this mode. Someone please tell me how to get this unit to do it. I love the unit, except I cant figure this one out. The stereo settings only give me sound out of the front two speakers and sub.

Oh and in the next 2 weeks or so ill be adding some RTi A5s and a CSi A4 to the mix.

Thanks for the help
post #2937 of 5122
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Originally Posted by drusburn View Post

Hey guys,
I just got my 1019 the other day and have it all set up to 7.1 surround. Also got a Samsung ln52b750 LCD, Samsung BD-P1600 and a stand. The speakers are some nonsense Aiwa's with surrounds and center being from my previous HTIB Yamaha 6.1 setup. Anyway, I cant for the life of me figure out how to get this thing in 7 ch stereo... My old Yamaha as well as my fathers Yamaha and my buddies Denon all do multi channel stereo (6ch or 5ch). I really liked watching tv and listening to music in this mode. Someone please tell me how to get this unit to do it. I love the unit, except I cant figure this one out. The stereo settings only give me sound out of the front two speakers and sub.

Oh and in the next 2 weeks or so ill be adding some RTi A5s and a CSi A4 to the mix.

Thanks for the help

While listening to a stereo source, press RECEIVER, then STANDARD. This allows you to select a surround mode (manual, page 52.) I hope this helps.

Edit: Other surround options (such as EXT. STEREO) are also available by pressing ADVANCED SURROUND.
post #2938 of 5122
I figured it out, the EXT STEREO setting in advanced surround is what I was looking for. I dont know why it wouldnt just be in the stereo options...oh well. Now I really like this receiver, I was getting frustrated that I couldn't figure it out, but I feel a lot better about it now.

thanks for the quick reply tightrope, i literally just figured it out and came into my office to check this thread out.

Party on
post #2939 of 5122
I have a few questions about this receiver and the PS3 combination. I can not get TRUEHD to light up on the front (I read a few things about how PCM is the same thing, but can anyone clarify that?) Also no matter what I do my blu ray discs will only play in 5.1 surround, shouldn't 7.1 be available? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to get the best sound possible out of this unit.
post #2940 of 5122
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Originally Posted by JAYNO20 View Post

I have a few questions about this receiver and the PS3 combination. I can not get TRUEHD to light up on the front (I read a few things about how PCM is the same thing, but can anyone clarify that?) Also no matter what I do my blu ray discs will only play in 5.1 surround, shouldn't 7.1 be available? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to get the best sound possible out of this unit.

What is your setup? Is it 5.1 or 7.1? And which PS3 do you have?

If you have a PS3 fat, you will NOT be able to bitstream Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. This is a limitation of the HDMI chip on the old PS3 (the fatty). If you have a PS3 Slim, and have connected it via HDMI, then go to BD/DVD settings, and change the audio out to Bitstream instead of Linear PCM. Then, the decoding will be done by the receiver instead of the PS3. And you'll get the LED lights on the receiver front panel.
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