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post #3211 of 5086
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Originally Posted by manpreet200 View Post

I think this was answered a few posts back... I believe you have to use the Ext.Speaker setting to get all the speakers to work.

Thanks, manpreet. Had a chance to really get into the 1019 over the weekend and found that my problem was simply not pressing the RECEIVER button before pressing any of the top buttons (Auto/ALC, Stereo, Standard or Menu ADV Surr).

Invaluable lesson - The RECEIVER button is your friend.

-bruce
post #3212 of 5086
I have a simple dumb question. I do go about having audio and video coming out of this receiver from 2 different inputs?
post #3213 of 5086
Hello,

I have just installed my 1019 this past weekend and look forward to sharing info on this forum. I have a HDTV (Sony Bravia), DVD (Samsung), Multi-CD Player (Onkyo), tape (Onkyo) and digital cable via a box, and two JBL LX44 main speakers for now. Took ~10-12 hrs to get connections right and get working, but watched the Superbowl last night and it sounded great. Still need to do some work with the remote, but so far so good.
post #3214 of 5086
Thought I would share that Amazon has changed the status on the 1019 and 919 from Out of Stock to "Usually ships in 2-4 weeks."

If they've got some indication of delivery from Pioneer, I don't know, but when I called J+R last Friday they were telling me they expect more either this week or next, so I guess that would kinda line up with what amazon is saying.
post #3215 of 5086
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Originally Posted by phatttty View Post

I have a simple dumb question. I do go about having audio and video coming out of this receiver from 2 different inputs?

You mean like watching source A while listening to source B? If so its not something the AVR can do in normal operations, but if you connect some extra analog audio cables (via a Y-adapter if necessary) it can work.

For example to listen to a CD while watching TV (over HDMI) run some audio cables from the CD player to the open TV/SAT inputs, then use the Signal Sel button on the remote to switch audio sources after you've picked your video source (TV/SAT in this example). Its kind of rig-job but will work for some of the inputs that allow various connection types (for example TV/SAT allows: HDMI, optical or analog audio). FYI - Kuro Link has to be OFF for this to work.
post #3216 of 5086
Firmware update for the 1019 remote power on issue:

Spoke to local repair shop - Service Manager says that there *is* a firmware update for this model, but that he is not aware of any TSB for this issue. I asked what method they used to do the update IE JTAG, USB, chip swap, etc - he wouldn't elaborate in his email other than to say the unit has to be brought in and the turnaround is 3 days. This really, really sucks - I hate that I'll have to pull this thing out of my cabinet and disconnect everything.

Other than that, I love this unit.
post #3217 of 5086
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Originally Posted by wetgravity View Post

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LG270 Blu-Ray
Harmony One remote
Infinity TSS-100 satellite speakers
Klipsch Sub-10

One more bit of advice, I needed to go though the remote setting of the video and audio parameters (again, only fond this walking through the manual) and set the signal inputs so that instead of hdmi1 being my signal select, I used TV/SAT instead and assigned hdmi1 to it....closed all the signal inputs I am not using so now it's almost impossible for the hdmi 1 not to come up when I switch to TV/Sat.

I got the same LG TV and DirecTV DVR and I'll just add that you'll need the optical cable for audio, see this post: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...v#post17790577

I'm sure in your struggles of jumping between pages of footnotes you've already figured out that Kuro Link has to be off to reassign the inputs as well.
post #3218 of 5086
Hey guys - still looking for an answer - does video upscaling that the 1019 promises means that it will change my satellite signal from 1080i to 108p.

If this is the case then this would be an advantage over the 919?

Thanks
post #3219 of 5086
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Originally Posted by vtompke View Post

Hey guys - still looking for an answer - does video upscaling that the 1019 promises means that it will change my satellite signal from 1080i to 108p.

If this is the case then this would be an advantage over the 919?

It depends: is your satellite unit connected via component? If so, then YES it will upscale component 1080i to 1080p (via HDMI out). If your satellite box is connected via HDMI input then NO it will not upscale. HDMI signals are simply passed thru the unit with no additional video processing per page 67 of the manual were it says "These functions do not affect HDMI inputs". when referring to the Video Parameters.

The real question is could you even tell if it did? I'm betting no since satellite signals are compressed, upscaling them to 1080p offers to little to no advantage.

There are some other minor differences between the two units -
The 1019 allows Zone 2 iPod / USB audio, the 919 doesn't.
The 1019 has an extra HDMI input as well.
post #3220 of 5086
Thanks for the info, I haven't had this problem yet...how would I replicate it? I switch between channels and never lose audio...the 1019 tells me whether the signal is digital or stereo and adjusts automatically....maybe I don;t understand. I still have my optical cable and understand the setup, just let me know how to replicate it so I can understand when this is happening...I appreciate it!

BTW, I turned of Kuro in the very beginning, as well as simplink on the lg.
post #3221 of 5086
Hi Guys,

Had a search around could not see this problem being reported. I am using the Pioneer VSX-1019AH in conjunction with an ASROCK 330BD HTPC (windows 7) and a Panasonic TC-p42g10 monitor. This all works fine except that in Windows 7 instead of seeing my Panasonic monitor under "display type" I see the pioneer av unit! Now this makes some sense as I am using the av unit to do the HDMI switching but i thought some sort of pass through would occur so Windows 7 can identify the monitor correctly receive it's supported resolutions / timings etc..

This is only a real issue at the moment because I am trying to watch some content from iplayer which needs 25/50Hz and I cannot change the monitor setting in my usual control panel (powerstrip does not work either). I am assuming the root cause is the panasonic plasma not being identified properly.

Anyone run into this before?

Thanks
post #3222 of 5086
I have had this issue twice and I am not sure what's going on OR if I should be concerned. I power on my 1019 and my Sony CD player. I start to listen to a selection and almost immediately the system shuts down and goes into protect. The power light flashes and I have to unplug the AVR and plug it back in. After which it goes right back to being the somewhat awesome unit it is.

I checked all my speaker connections and I am using those "safe connect" banana plugs going into the rear of the AVR itself. Everything seems to be OK.

The unit is about 2 months old. Do you think I should send it in for repair? I am certainly a bit disappointed but I may need to rise above my disappointment so that it get's taken care of via warranty. What would you do?
post #3223 of 5086
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Originally Posted by variableloudness View Post

I have had this issue twice and I am not sure what's going on OR if I should be concerned. I power on my 1019 and my Sony CD player. I start to listen to a selection and almost immediately the system shuts down and goes into protect. The power light flashes and I have to unplug the AVR and plug it back in. After which it goes right back to being the somewhat awesome unit it is.

I checked all my speaker connections and I am using those "safe connect" banana plugs going into the rear of the AVR itself. Everything seems to be OK.

The unit is about 2 months old. Do you think I should send it in for repair? I am certainly a bit disappointed but I may need to rise above my disappointment so that it get's taken care of via warranty. What would you do?

What speakers are you using? (Manufacturer, model, ohm rating) ?

Banana plugs may help avoid shorts, double check your connections, to make sure your speakers are plugged in correctly. I assume you ran MCACC.

When it is re-started, does it sound correct?
post #3224 of 5086
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

What speakers are you using? (Manufacturer, model, ohm rating) ?

Banana plugs may help avoid shorts, double check your connections, to make sure your speakers are plugged in correctly. I assume you ran MCACC.

When it is re-started, does it sound correct?

Thank you for your response hernanu. Yes, I have ran the MCACC. An odd occurrence happened however and I will relate that to you.

I ran the full automated MCACC about a month ago. Everything seemed fine. All speakers checked OK and were set to Large when the process was completed.

I use a Frankenstein special with respect to the speakers. I am using two front ADS L620, 2 Sony SSF5000 (surround), the sub is a Sony SAW2500 and the surround back and center channels are both from this somewhat cheesy Sony surround system purchased like 14 years ago. All speakers are rated at 8ohm.

Last week I wanted to set up a specific MCACC memory slot for audio so I ran the whole pro automated feature again. This time however the right rear/back surround speaker showed to be out of phase. I thought that was odd because I had ran the MCACC at least 5 times and it had never shown as being out of phase prior. I know no one switched the wires because the system is in a room that is somewhat a personal den that stays locked when I am not there. I switched positive and negative speaker wires at the SBR speaker's terminal and ran the test again. Everything checked normal.

It's important to note that the volume was not turned up loud at all when it went into protect this morning.When the unit restarted after being disconnected from the power source, all was completely normal other than the fact that I noticed the volume reset to where it was when the reciever was first powered up.
post #3225 of 5086
Thought some people might be interested. Amazon is showing the 1019 as in-stock and sold by Amazon. They're selling it at MSRP.

919 still shows 2-4 weeks and no changes for either model at J+R.
post #3226 of 5086
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Originally Posted by smack518 View Post

Thought some people might be interested. Amazon is showing the 1019 as in-stock and sold by Amazon. They're selling it at MSRP.

919 still shows 2-4 weeks and no changes for either model at J+R.



For anyone in the Los Angeles area, Pacific Sales has the 919 and 1019 in stock. As an earlier posting noted, they are B&M only and don't ship. I'm a newbie, so I didn't notice until today about the prohibition on pricing discussions. Suffice to say, they are not asking MSRP. If anyone wants to PM me, I'll tell them what I'm buying mine for when I pick it up in a couple of days.


added note: I checked and they are an Authorized Dealer
post #3227 of 5086
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Originally Posted by variableloudness View Post

Thank you for your response hernanu. Yes, I have ran the MCACC. An odd occurrence happened however and I will relate that to you.

I ran the full automated MCACC about a month ago. Everything seemed fine. All speakers checked OK and were set to Large when the process was completed.

I use a Frankenstein special with respect to the speakers. I am using two front ADS L620, 2 Sony SSF5000 (surround), the sub is a Sony SAW2500 and the surround back and center channels are both from this somewhat cheesy Sony surround system purchased like 14 years ago. All speakers are rated at 8ohm.

Last week I wanted to set up a specific MCACC memory slot for audio so I ran the whole pro automated feature again. This time however the right rear/back surround speaker showed to be out of phase. I thought that was odd because I had ran the MCACC at least 5 times and it had never shown as being out of phase prior. I know no one switched the wires because the system is in a room that is somewhat a personal den that stays locked when I am not there. I switched positive and negative speaker wires at the SBR speaker's terminal and ran the test again. Everything checked normal.

It's important to note that the volume was not turned up loud at all when it went into protect this morning.When the unit restarted after being disconnected from the power source, all was completely normal other than the fact that I noticed the volume reset to where it was when the reciever was first powered up.

One of the less dependable aspects of MCACC is the detection of out of phase wiring. It is better to check visually and ensure the proper connections, ignore the MCACC response after that. It also told me that mine were wrong when I inspected them and knew they were correct. I would set the connections by eye and ignore MCACC information in that regard.
post #3228 of 5086
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

One of the less dependable aspects of MCACC is the detection of out of phase wiring. It is better to check visually and ensure the proper connections, ignore the MCACC response after that. It also told me that mine were wrong when I inspected them and knew they were correct. I would set the connections by eye and ignore MCACC information in that regard.


I am still waiting to hear how others more so knowledgeable than myself would react to the initial problem I reported. Would you send it in for repair?
post #3229 of 5086
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Originally Posted by variableloudness View Post

I am still waiting to hear how others more so knowledgeable than myself would react to the initial problem I reported. Would you send it in for repair?

Figured I would answer myself and pass along the info to everyone. I understand the possible apprehension providing an opinion on this matter. I actually appreciate the prudence.

I called and spoke to a very nice person at Pioneer and what they had to say was very interesting. I learned the following. My speakers are very suspect. As speakers get older they go down in ohm rating or in other words their impedance degrades. Admittedly the issue could be a precautionary low frequency response from the analog conveyed CD source, so the tech recommended that I set the "LFE" (LFE Attenuation) to -10 to curb a possible low frequency source issue.

The good (GREAT!) news is that the issue is most likely not any cause for alarm. Very doubtful. These amps are VERY sensitive to impedance and it is FAR more likely that one or more of my speakers has decayed or degraded to an unacceptable impedance level. I know this is a fact because of how I have observed speakers and their cabinets falling apart after 20 or so years of use. Those so so Sonys I am using for my surround speakers replaced some old Bose 401s that fell apart.

I now have a reason to go speaker shopping. One I am certain my wife will more than support...NOT!

any recommendations for front and back speakers as I already have a new sub and surround speakers?

Man, I WISH that I could afford some truly decent speakers, It's a bit embarrassing to admit I am using what I am. Reality is, these are TOUGH times.
post #3230 of 5086
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Originally Posted by variableloudness View Post

Figured I would answer myself and pass along the info to everyone. I understand the possible apprehension providing an opinion on this matter. I actually appreciate the prudence.

I called and spoke to a very nice person at Pioneer and what they had to say was very interesting. I learned the following. My speakers are very suspect. As speakers get older they go down in ohm rating or in other words their impedance degrades. Admittedly the issue could be a precautionary low frequency response from the analog conveyed CD source, so the tech recommended that I set the "LFE" (LFE Attenuation) to -10 to curb a possible low frequency source issue.

The good (GREAT!) news is that the issue is most likely not any cause for alarm. Very doubtful. These amps are VERY sensitive to impedance and it is FAR more likely that one or more of my speakers has decayed or degraded to an unacceptable impedance level. I know this is a fact because of how I have observed speakers and their cabinets falling apart after 20 or so years of use. Those so so Sonys I am using for my surround speakers replaced some old Bose 401s that fell apart.

I now have a reason to go speaker shopping. One I am certain my wife will more than support...NOT!

any recommendations for front and back speakers as I already have a new sub and surround speakers?

Man, I WISH that I could afford some truly decent speakers, It's a bit embarrassing to admit I am using what I am. Reality is, these are TOUGH times.

Depending on what you want to spend, you can still get some good speakers. It also depends on the size of your area.

I like Energy speakers - several of their very good lines are being phased out and you can get some very good deals.

Smaller areas: The Energy Take Classic speakers. (fairly inexpensive).
Medium to larger area: Five of these RC-mini's will do a good job at a moderate price.

Larger areas (within reason) : Two RC-10's as fronts and three of the above rc-mini's would be very good.

I assume you have a good sub, if not a smaller Hsu, there area some other good options. One thing to remember as well is that the surrounds can be updated later, the most important are the fronts and the center.
post #3231 of 5086
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Originally Posted by variableloudness View Post

any recommendations for front and back speakers as I already have a new sub and surround speakers?

I second Hernanu's suggestion. My vsx-919 drives a set of Energy Take Classic speakers and I am very pleased with the sound. This setup is for my bedroom so I don't need excessive power, but I have been impressed with how much presence such small speakers have.
post #3232 of 5086
not sure what your budget is but I just picked up some polk 70's. they are a great boom for your buck...... Compared to my old vsx-454 receiver and bose 4001 speakers, the sound is amazing. I have a HSU stf-2 as well. I am very happy with the setup right now.
post #3233 of 5086
I just picked up the 1019 and I also brought home two different sets of front speakers (centers and right and left fronts). I want to compare the two centers by themselves with no other speakers and wanted to know if there is a way to hook both centers into the Pioneer receiver at the same time and then be able to switch back and forth between the two center speakers to compare them?
post #3234 of 5086
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Depending on what you want to spend, you can still get some good speakers. It also depends on the size of your area.

I like Energy speakers - several of their very good lines are being phased out and you can get some very good deals.

Smaller areas: The Energy Take Classic speakers. (fairly inexpensive).
Medium to larger area: Five of these RC-mini's will do a good job at a moderate price.

Larger areas (within reason) : Two RC-10's as fronts and three of the above rc-mini's would be very good.

I assume you have a good sub, if not a smaller Hsu, there area some other good options. One thing to remember as well is that the surrounds can be updated later, the most important are the fronts and the center.

These are doable. Thanks very much for the recommendation. I have never heard of them or Vanns prior. Both seem like tremendously solid recommendations.

So, you really think one of the minis would by adequate for a center channel speaker? Now that I have been listening to the various decoded formats as well as SACD, I really notice how dramatically important the center channel is. My speaker system is presently horrible.

It's so obvious how unmatched everything is. Especially via the fact that those ADS L620 fronts are so much better and more powerful sounding than everything else. Having a nice matched set of speakers would be incredible.

I would definitely go with 2 RC-10s and 3 RC minis. I have a sub but I listen to as much or more music on this system as I do film based audio so I would need the bass response from my front speakers.
post #3235 of 5086
I have a VSX-919, and just installed ati hd 5 series card in the htpc.

WWhen connected with hdmi to receiver i only get a flashing hdcp error. Connected directly to tv and it works.

Ive skimmed the thread and is this a faulty receiver issue?
post #3236 of 5086
^^^

probably not. probably an issue with the htpc. htpc's are notorious for not playing nice with repeaters.

best place to look would be in the htpc forums and see who else has your card and what drivers, etc. they are using.
post #3237 of 5086
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Originally Posted by variableloudness View Post

These are doable. Thanks very much for the recommendation. I have never heard of them or Vanns prior. Both seem like tremendously solid recommendations.

So, you really think one of the minis would by adequate for a center channel speaker? Now that I have been listening to the various decoded formats as well as SACD, I really notice how dramatically important the center channel is. My speaker system is presently horrible.

It's so obvious how unmatched everything is. Especially via the fact that those ADS L620 fronts are so much better and more powerful sounding than everything else. Having a nice matched set of speakers would be incredible.

I would definitely go with 2 RC-10s and 3 RC minis. I have a sub but I listen to as much or more music on this system as I do film based audio so I would need the bass response from my front speakers.

The important thing for matching centers and fronts is the tweeter, and in the case of the RC-mini's, the tweeter is well matched to the RC-10's. If you want to, you could go with the RC-mini CC center, at more expense; you do get the extra 4.5" driver, and it would work well. I have the mini's, and they have not been strained at all by the input signals at (granted) moderate levels. Typically -32 to -16 max.
post #3238 of 5086
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Originally Posted by variableloudness View Post

I would definitely go with 2 RC-10s and 3 RC minis. I have a sub but I listen to as much or more music on this system as I do film based audio so I would need the bass response from my front speakers.

Anndd... here's my pitch for subs when listening to music.

I assume you're planning on two channel. The RC-10's are not going to dip as low as most monolithic larger speakers. They are meant to be supported by a sub, so when listening to music, it would be much better to get the sub involved; the RC-10's will go as low as 50Hz, but you still have some bass and other signals which will go lower. The sub will get those nicely. So my pitch would be for 2.1 when listening to music, unless you're going SACD or DVDAudio. I have an OPPO BDP-83 which performs nicely with these formats, the 1019 does pretty well with it.
post #3239 of 5086
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Originally Posted by johnxxsmith View Post

I have a VSX-919, and just installed ati hd 5 series card in the htpc.

WWhen connected with hdmi to receiver i only get a flashing hdcp error. Connected directly to tv and it works.

Ive skimmed the thread and is this a faulty receiver issue?

When you connected to the receiver, was the TV also connected to it and on?
You get this error if you are using an HDMI source and there is no HDMI monitor device (TV, projector, etc.) on the other end. It's supposed to prevent people from stealing digital content by hooking up an illegal digital recording device.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think with my setup I can get away with turning off the TV if I listen to CD audio through HDMI.
post #3240 of 5086
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Anndd... here's my pitch for subs when listening to music.

I assume you're planning on two channel. The RC-10's are not going to dip as low as most monolithic larger speakers. They are meant to be supported by a sub, so when listening to music, it would be much better to get the sub involved; the RC-10's will go as low as 50Hz, but you still have some bass and other signals which will go lower. The sub will get those nicely. So my pitch would be for 2.1 when listening to music, unless you're going SACD or DVDAudio. I have an OPPO BDP-83 which performs nicely with these formats, the 1019 does pretty well with it.


hernanu
I purchased a used Oppo BDP-83 on eBay after it being recommended here in this thread. I really like it.

What settings on the 1019 do you use to achieve the 2.1?

I have been using the expanded stereo setting because I like the way it sounds in my set up. I also sometimes use the Neo:6 MUSIC

When playing SACD I use the Direct feature because it facilitates the source with my eq/speaker settings.
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