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post #4681 of 5086
Then that should be correct for the 919 as well. At that level of operation and feature set, the two models are identical.
post #4682 of 5086
how can i listen to the stereo while watching the tv with the sound down?
post #4683 of 5086
connect your cable box to tv with hdmi or composite or component (w/optical or coax or RCA analog for audio). Then switch the tv's input to whatever input you used to connect the cable box (assuming your signal originates from cable box). Next, select the tuner on the avr.
post #4684 of 5086
The blue LED in the center of the power button blinks irregularly for a while then the light turns off. Turning off the AVR and then back on turns the light back on for a while until it starts blinking and then turns off again. The blinking doesnt have any effect on the AVR other than it is a distraction until it turns off. I thought about putting a piece of electrical tape over the button so it wouldnt be noticable.

With all the quirks associated with the receiver, I am mildly concerned that this is an inidcation that something is wrong. Please let me know if anyone has had this issue or if there is anything to be concerned about.
post #4685 of 5086
chillout,

you should re-check all of your speaker wire connections and make sure you don't have a stray wire sticking out and making contact with avr housing. Sounds like the avr is going into protection mode for some reason. I wouldn't advise tape over the blinking light as the avr is trying to tell you there is something wrong. If you go through all of your connections and can't find the issue, you may want to reset the avr to factory settings before bringing to an authorized repair shop.
post #4686 of 5086
I have searched and read the manual, dont know if my eyes are getting tired, but can not see anything on adjusting the speaker ohms. I swore you could change the output from 8ohms to 6ohms.

please help...lol

Jeff
post #4687 of 5086
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Originally Posted by eurovw89 View Post

I have searched and read the manual, dont know if my eyes are getting tired, but can not see anything on adjusting the speaker ohms. I swore you could change the output from 8ohms to 6ohms.

please help...lol

Jeff

See page 36 of the manual. I'm currently running a 7:2 set up all 6 ohm speakers and I did not make the adjustment. Everything working fine.
post #4688 of 5086
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Originally Posted by blacklion View Post

See page 36 of the manual. I'm currently running a 5:1 set up all 6 ohm speakers and I did not make the adjustment. Everything working fine.

thanks.....I looked right over it, wasn't thinking it would be in basic setup. I just changed to 6ohms and the sounds seems lower, but isn't it if u run a 8 pun receiver with a 6ohm speakers it over workers the receiver and may overheat......is this true?
post #4689 of 5086
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Originally Posted by eurovw89 View Post

thanks.....I looked right over it, wasn't thinking it would be in basic setup. I just changed to 6ohms and the sounds seems lower, but isn't it if u run a 8 pun receiver with a 6ohm speakers it over workers the receiver and may overheat......is this true?

Not necessarily. AVR manufacturers often factor in these things. I had the very same fear myself until a few months ago when folks here set me straight. Just leave the receiver set to 8ohms. For watching movies at normal listening levels, you should be fine. I wouldn't play music esp rock or hip-hop at very loud volumes though.
post #4690 of 5086
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Originally Posted by blacklion View Post
Not necessarily. AVR manufacturers often factor in these things. I had the very same fear myself until a few months ago when folks here set me straight. Just leave the receiver set to 8ohms. For watching movies at normal listening levels, you should be fine. I wouldn't play music esp rock or hip-hop at very loud volumes though.
what is the purpose of witching to either one? not to be smart but aren't u able to switch it for a reason? what r the down falls or positives
post #4691 of 5086
^^^

switching it to 6 ohms artificially limits power output by putting a governor on the power supply...

if you are do not get satisfactory results leaving it in 8 ohm mode, you will not get satisfactory results running in 6 ohm mode...
post #4692 of 5086
so I would most likely get better sound leaving the receiver at 8ohms cuz of mote output power?

other question....I just noticed that when I turn my receiver and dvr my receiver say "fail normal -4 sometimes -1, -2, -3. any idea what this means?
post #4693 of 5086
^^^

- yes...

- that's "dialnorm" (not "fail norm"), and it's part of the incoming audio signal... it's nothing that you can adjust...

click here for a brief explanation of what dialnorm is...
post #4694 of 5086
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

- yes...

- that's "dialnorm" (not "fail norm"), and it's part of the incoming audio signal... it's nothing that you can adjust...

click here for a brief explanation of what dialnorm is...

yes dail norm.....dang auto correction. thanks never seen it before and started to worry
post #4695 of 5086
Hello all. I am having an issue with my pioneer 1019 ah in that it shuts itself off if I adjust the eq to give any more amount of bass at all than 0.0 and turn it to -18 db. I am running a great pair of speakers that can take much more but the amp shuts off and blinks a red light off and on and I have to manually power it back on.
It seems to run fine as long as you do not adjust any bass at all into the sound but its certainly not a good sound that way and a waste of expensive speakers. Is there any firmware updates or anything I can do to make this thing not shut off on me when it outputs any amount of bass into speakers? I have them set to large in mcacc settings and have gone over everything ten times.
Also , I cannot get my audio button to work on the remote to adjust tone or treble or bass like the manual says I should....I hit reciever than audio and nothing happens...any ideas?
Also , is there a firmware update I can put on my reciever? thanks for any replies to any of these issues@!
post #4696 of 5086
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Originally Posted by stevenca
Hello all. I am having an issue with my pioneer 1019 ah in that it shuts itself off if I adjust the eq to give any more amount of bass at all than 0.0 and turn it to -18 db. I am running a great pair of speakers that can take much more but the amp shuts off and blinks a red light off and on and I have to manually power it back on.
It seems to run fine as long as you do not adjust any bass at all into the sound but its certainly not a good sound that way and a waste of expensive speakers. Is there any firmware updates or anything I can do to make this thing not shut off on me when it outputs any amount of bass into speakers? I have them set to large in mcacc settings and have gone over everything ten times.
Also , I cannot get my audio button to work on the remote to adjust tone or treble or bass like the manual says I should....I hit reciever than audio and nothing happens...any ideas?
Also , is there a firmware update I can put on my reciever? thanks for any replies to any of these issues@!
Your receiver is not powerful enough to drive your speakers and your receiver is probably going into protect mode.

You should buy an external amp and use your pioneer as a pre amp. That way you will be giving your speakers the proper amount of power.

You will probably damage your speakers if you continue to under power them.
post #4697 of 5086
The speakers are 125rms watts and the reciever puts out 120rms...what batter match is there? anyone want to buy a piece of crap pioneer amp ? msg me if so. location nova scotia canada
technics = much better
post #4698 of 5086
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Originally Posted by stevenca
The speakers are 125rms watts and the reciever puts out 120rms...what batter match is there? anyone want to buy a piece of crap pioneer amp ? msg me if so. location nova scotia canada
technics = much better
It is very unlikely your receiver is giving you a continuous 120 watts at all times.

Your speakers would be much happier with a good stereo amp or 5 channel amp that puts out a continuous 125 watts per channel.

I personally use soundcraftsmen amps. They made a huge difference inveighs quality for me. I use an onkyo 876 as my pre amp.

Hold onto Your pioneer receiver. My buddy has the same one and he loves it. Just buy an amp to use with your pioneer and you'll be much happier
post #4699 of 5086
My 1019 is powering my Sierra-1s just fine.
post #4700 of 5086
Mine is up for sale , I will buy something that can run a continuous 125 rms , there is no excuse for the thing going into protection at -20 db when you add a little bass to the eq and set to large speakers......if i left it set at small and dont add bass it will go to +12 db and never shut down , i wish there was a way to stop the protection on this thing cuz i know its not making the speakers suffer AT ALL
post #4701 of 5086
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post

Mine is up for sale , I will buy something that can run a continuous 125 rms , there is no excuse for the thing going into protection at -20 db when you add a little bass to the eq and set to large speakers......if i left it set at small and dont add bass it will go to +12 db and never shut down , i wish there was a way to stop the protection on this thing cuz i know its not making the speakers suffer AT ALL

Have you checked your speaker connections? Even a single stray strand of wire can cause your receiver to go in Protect mode, it might be worth to double-check.
post #4702 of 5086
Thank you for the suggestion , went over that tonight . Unhooked everything from the reciever except for my front speakers and used new 14 gauge wire and still same result , at around -20db with any bass added in the eq it goes into protect mode. Just doesnt seem to want to put out any midbass at all. LG 1000 watt surround sound was way better than this so far.Bad experience
post #4703 of 5086
^^^ What he said! This same thing happened to me and my 919. Whenever i had it at -18 and at a certain loud scene, my receiver would shut down. After much worry about my receiver and an email to Pioneer, they recommended that i unplug my speakers, one by one and kee replaying that same scene until i found which speaker connection was the cause. Sure enough I found it, redid my banana plug ( there really wasnt any stray strands, it just must not have had a good connection) and now everything works well.
post #4704 of 5086
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post

Thank you for the suggestion , went over that tonight . Unhooked everything from the reciever except for my front speakers and used new 14 gauge wire and still same result , at around -20db with any bass added in the eq it goes into protect mode. Just doesnt seem to want to put out any midbass at all. LG 1000 watt surround sound was way better than this so far.Bad experience

Contact pioneer and see what they say about your situation. But before you do, keep retrying with some or one speaker unplugged to see if you can pinpoint one speaker to be the cause. For me, i tried with just the fronts on and no rears and sure enough my receiver didnt go into protect mode. Then it was a matter of retrying just with one rear plugged inuntil i found it.

Also does an mcaac test show any speakers out of phase, even though you are certain it is in phase ( meaning you crossed thr black and red wire but it isnt ). This was happening to me and it was the one speaker that i eventually found to be the one making my receiver go into protect mode on loud scenes. Well a simple redo of my banana plug was all it took to fix the WHOLE situation.
post #4705 of 5086
Stevenca,

The 1019 ah spec is not 120 W/ch rms. Per the Instruction Munual, it is listed as 90 W/ch (ave power output) at 8 ohms. Likely that is not driving all channels at same time. Unfortunately, you can't use this avr as a pre amp (not built that way).

Without knowing more information about your setup (5.1/7.1) and the make and model of each speaker I don't think anyone can determine wether your avr is underpowered for your speakers. I agree with Kezug though and think it is more likely a speaker connection issue. A little trouble shooting and you should be able to isolate it to a particular channel.

Also, unless you don't have a sub, it is generally not recommended that you set you speakers to large. You will see in this thread most have their speakers set to small even if they have physically large speakers (again, assuming you have a sub).
post #4706 of 5086
I bought this amp on the pretense it was all i needed ....i read all the reviews...if you guys all say buy a real amp and stop using this for power why than did u all buy it? if all ur using it for is inputs/outputs couldnt u do much better for ur money ? its like talkin bad about ur own investment....when i bought it the guy said it would do 120 rms into all channels X 7 so he lied , i get that after seeing the manual.....but now im stuck with a 375.00 paperweight in my eyes as i dididnt need the input/output offerings at that expense. i need an amp that can push 120 rms to my large speakers with some midbass without shutting down.....i have checked all my wires...the amp just cant push anything but tiny lil surround sound speakers
post #4707 of 5086
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post

Thank you for the suggestion , went over that tonight . Unhooked everything from the reciever except for my front speakers and used new 14 gauge wire and still same result , at around -20db with any bass added in the eq it goes into protect mode. Just doesnt seem to want to put out any midbass at all. LG 1000 watt surround sound was way better than this so far.Bad experience

Just curious, have you tried plugging your LG 1000 watt surround sound into these same speakers? How well does it work?
post #4708 of 5086
^^^
You have still not indicated what speakers you have, or if you are using a sub.
post #4709 of 5086
Athena FS 2.2
http://www.athenaspeakers.com/produc...f2-2-overview/

Those speakers and i do have a energy powered sub but i dont want to use it. If this amp would run them i would be happy , they sound so nice
post #4710 of 5086
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post

Athena FS 2.2
www.athenaspeakers.com/products/as-f2-2-overview/

Those speakers and i do have a energy powered sub but i dont want to use it. If this amp would run them i would be happy , they sound so nice

I didn't realize your receiver didn't have pre outs. Sorry about that.

From the link you provided it states that your speakers are 250 watts per speaker.

IMO your pioneer receiver is not capable of driving such power hungry speakers. At least not at high listen levels.
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