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post #4711 of 5121
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Originally Posted by brockwilt View Post

I didn't realize your receiver didn't have pre outs. Sorry about that.

From the link you provided it states that your speakers are 250 watts per speaker.

IMO your pioneer receiver is not capable of driving such power hungry speakers. At least not at high listen levels.

I agree with you , but im not sure the speakers are 250 rms or 250 max power.....no information on the back and online didn't say so.......pioneer amp for sale !! lol love the speakers though!
post #4712 of 5121
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post


I agree with you , but im not sure the speakers are 250 rms or 250 max power.....no information on the back and online didn't say so.......pioneer amp for sale !! lol love the speakers though!

In the link you provided click on the technical tab and it will say 250watt
post #4713 of 5121
rms or peak ?
post #4714 of 5121
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post

rms or peak ?

Here it is

http://www.athenaspeakers.com/produc...pecifications/

It just says

Power handling: 250 watts


Here is a link to the owners manual for your speakers.

http://www.athenaspeakers.com/media/...ers-Manual.pdf

It has a section about on page 2, or 3 about powering the speakers and about clipping.
post #4715 of 5121
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Originally Posted by brockwilt View Post
Here it is

http://www.athenaspeakers.com/produc...pecifications/

It just says

Power handling: 250 watts


Here is a link to the owners manual for your speakers.

http://www.athenaspeakers.com/media/...ers-Manual.pdf

It has a section about on page 2, or 3 about powering the speakers and about clipping.

I hope you don't think you're giving me new information ? I have been around audio for 20 years and professional with car audio and I know what distortion and clipping is and this amp doesnt come close to doin either to the speakers. As I said from the start , I am going to sell the amp .... it does not have the power to drive anything but lil surround speakers and thats not what i need.
post #4716 of 5121
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post


I hope you don't think you're giving me new information ? I have been around audio for 20 years and professional with car audio and I know what distortion and clipping is and this amp doesnt come close to doin either to the speakers. As I said from the start , I am going to sell the amp .... it does not have the power to drive anything but lil surround speakers and thats not what i need.

Hmm I thought I was. Sorry. One would think with 20 years of audio experience that you would know that a receiver rated at 90-100 watts per channel wont be able to drive your 250 watt speakers very well. And of course your speakers are clipping when you play them loud. There is no where near enough power for them. Buy a receiver with pre outs and get a solid 200 watt per channel amplifier. Im sure in your professional car audio background that you used amps to power your car speakers. Good luck with the new amp purchase
post #4717 of 5121
I'm wondering, what should i do on my Pioneer Receiver to help with the voices.

Watched Hulk today and i had to lower the volume so much whenever something happened, then when there was scenes of dialogue, i had to push the volume high up.

I would love to lower the ambient sound (explosions and such) and make the voices louder and clear (not full of bass)

thx in advance !
post #4718 of 5121
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post

I hope you don't think you're giving me new information ? I have been around audio for 20 years and professional with car audio and I know what distortion and clipping is and this amp doesnt come close to doin either to the speakers. As I said from the start , I am going to sell the amp .... it does not have the power to drive anything but lil surround speakers and thats not what i need.

As the user manual does not specify, I would contact Athena and ask them as to the power requirements of the speakers. However, they do indicate that a receiver with a power rating of 20 - 100 watts per channel (again do not specify rms or peak) will drive these speakers.

Did you run MCACC successfully? Not sure why you have decided against using your powered sub as that would likely give you the best results. I guess if you have already decided to sell your receiver then none of this is relevant so good luck.

It seems to me that it is likely that your receiver is designed to power those speakers assuming the spec is max and not rms (which I think is likely). Setting the speakers to large is appropriate seeing as you are not using your powered sub (although I don't understand why not). If you really feel like there is something wrong with the receiver, I would suggest bringing it to an authorized Pioneer repair shop and have them take a look. Could just be a bad channel and may be under warrenty.
post #4719 of 5121
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Originally Posted by stevenca View Post

I hope you don't think you're giving me new information ? I have been around audio for 20 years and professional with car audio and I know what distortion and clipping is and this amp doesnt come close to doin either to the speakers. As I said from the start , I am going to sell the amp .... it does not have the power to drive anything but lil surround speakers and thats not what i need.

Your speakers have 93db sensitivity, so at -20 on the volume, the 1019 should be able to handle these just fine. Something else is up, you may want to troubleshoot you connections as other people have described.

If you've decided to sell the 1019, there are plenty of other good choices out there, probably a pre-pro setup with dedicated amps would make you feel better about it. Good luck.
post #4720 of 5121
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Originally Posted by Hangedman View Post

I'm wondering, what should i do on my Pioneer Receiver to help with the voices.

Watched Hulk today and i had to lower the volume so much whenever something happened, then when there was scenes of dialogue, i had to push the volume high up.

I would love to lower the ambient sound (explosions and such) and make the voices louder and clear (not full of bass)

thx in advance !


Some movies just have a bad mix as far as dialogue versus other sound. You can go into your receiver menu and raise the center channel, where most of the voices originate, and maybe lower the left and right fronts a bit. Some players also have settings in their audio menu to compress the sound, making it more even in volume.
post #4721 of 5121
Does this receiver pass 3d signals through hdmi?

Thanks
post #4722 of 5121
^^^
No
post #4723 of 5121
So I know the receiver defiantly isn't spec to pass 3d, but did you or anyone try it to see if it does?
post #4724 of 5121
Hi,
I've had this pioneer receiver for a little over a year now and have been generally happy with it. A few questions for feeedback:
1. I run all input through HDMI for simplicity. The problem is that, as I understand it, I can't run HDMI one to Zone 1 and HDMI 2 to Zone 2. Is this understanding correct? If not, any ideas on how to handle it? One workaround might be to use other connections (RCA/optical) but this defeats the purpose of the simple HDMI only connections as there are already wires everywhere with all the speakers and will make the set up more confusing to my wife.

2. The B (or Zone 2) speakers are outside and I like to play both zone 1 and zone 2 at the same time. The problem is that the outdoor speakers need to be at a higher volume relative to the indoor speakers. As I understand it, there is no way to adjust the speaker volumes independently. The setup to adjust the levels of the speaker A is not available to Zone 2 or Speaker B. Any recommendations or workarounds?

3. I'm considering installing a multiroom sound solution. I don't have room for a multichannel amp near the receiver. Is it possible / recommended to locate the amp elsewhere and run preamp connections to the place where the amp is kept? If not, other recommendations?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Patrick
post #4725 of 5121
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1. The 1019 does not allow you to send anything other than analog audio to zone 2. The exception to this is the usb/i pod input.

2. I don't use zone 2, but my understanding is that you have seperate volume control between main zone and zone 2. See footnote 1 on page 70 of user manual.

3. The 1019 does not have pre amp out so this would not be an option. However, the Zone 2 can be used as a pre out, but again your limited to just analog audio sources. So unless you patch the digital source into the avr with rca cables in addition to the hdmi, your not going to be able to pass that signal to zone 2.
post #4726 of 5121
Not to derail this sub-thread...I have the 919AHK and it's been working perfectly for the past year. We had a storm and the power cut out to the house. When things came back up HDMI port 2 doesnt work anymore. Have tried alternate cables, power cycling, everything. It looks like this port has failed as I get no audio/video signal through this port at all.

Any tips for resurrecting this HDMI port?

thx
PP
post #4727 of 5121
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I wouldn't characterize that as derailing this thread as this is also where owners of the 919 come for advice, etc.

I would try returning the unit to factory specs (check your manual on how to do this). I know with the 1019 it is going into standby mode, holding down the "enter" button and hitting the "standby/on" button, then setting reset to "yes". It may be the same for the 919 but I'm not sure. Also, if that doesn't work and the unit is less than 1 year old it may still be under warrenty. Bring to authorized shop and have it checked out as you may be able to get it rma'd. Just tell them it stopped working (leave out the storm bit). You could also try updating the firmware, but if it were me I'd not try that unless I couldn't rma.

Good luck
post #4728 of 5121
is there any work around for the sub woofer problem? It doesn't send any signal to the sub unless its recieving digital signal. I know analog signal doesn't have LFE but my old crappy RCA AR power up the sub anyway. Anyone know if there a setting or something that I can change to make it work all the time?
post #4729 of 5121
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Originally Posted by Gitaroo View Post

is there any work around for the sub woofer problem? It doesn't send any signal to the sub unless its recieving digital signal. I know analog signal doesn't have LFE but my old crappy RCA AR power up the sub anyway. Anyone know if there a setting or something that I can change to make it work all the time?

It will send LF to sub if you select "small" for your L/R fronts in the speaker setup.
post #4730 of 5121
tried before that didn't seem to work.
post #4731 of 5121
anyone use a harmony remote with the VSX-1019AH? I am using 550 and it works to some degree such as I have to use the buttons on the receiver for the menu since the directional buttons don't work anymore. The original remote seems almost dead save for the volume buttons. Anyone else have trouble controlling it with any remote, original or otherwise?
post #4732 of 5121
I use the H700 with the 1019 with no issues.
post #4733 of 5121
do you have any issues with the original remote? Would the sensor be messed up if only works for a few functions?
post #4734 of 5121
No issues with the 1019 remote. I barely use it anymore, but when I do it works without issue.
post #4735 of 5121
Since it barely works and even with the Harmony 550 would it be the sensor in disarray?

It seems like something about the sensor is amiss if both remotes have problems
post #4736 of 5121
Hi all
This is my first post on the forum,and I have
A small problem,I have my sky+ sat box going
Straight to my Philips pfl7603D LCD and the
Optical out going into my 1019,but and here
Is the problem,when I go to bed at night
Or go out for about 5 hours and come back
To turn on my amp n tv i get picture and sound
No problem,but the amp waits about 5 minutes
To respond to the remote and that is anything
From input select,vol etc,but if I then turn
The tv off the amp responds,our sky + box does
Not do DD over hdmi so I have to use
Optical..I have used 3 different remotes,
The original,a pronto and a harmony 1000
Does anyone have any answers,I have read through
The posts about amp not coming on,nut
That is not the problem I have..
PLEASE HELP
post #4737 of 5121
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Originally Posted by Xtempo View Post

Since it barely works and even with the Harmony 550 would it be the sensor in disarray?

It seems like something about the sensor is amiss if both remotes have problems

Could be the sensor on the avr. You might want to try and rule out a bad remote though by bringing your remote to a Best Buy or other store that carries the Pio 1019 and test it out. Did the Harmony work at one time and now it doesn't? If the Harmony never worked correctly, that could just be a programming issue. I'd start with the avr remote and begin trouble shooting from there.

If your original Pio 1019 remote is able to control another 1019 correctly I'd say it's likely a bad sensor on the avr. Have an authorized Pio repair shop check it and hopefully it's still under warrenty. If on the other hand your original Pio 1019 remote does not control another unit, then could be something wrong with the remote. going to have to try a few things and post back.
post #4738 of 5121
I'm a bit of an A/V neophyte, so apologies if this question seems trivial...

I am looking to set up a multi-room configuration for the 1019 that powers a 5 channel surround sound environment in my family room as well as 2 remote speakers in my living room and 2 on my back porch via Zone 2.

Can I connect a device such as the Niles SSVC-4 Speaker Selection System to the ZONE2-OUT/SURROUND BACK jacks? The SSVC states that it " uses impedance magnification to keep your amplifier running safely, even with all speakers playing."

Does it matter if my speakers are 8 ohm speakers or 6 ohm? I must confess I don't really understand ohms yet...

I'm mostly concerned with a) not ruining my equipment and b) convenience and am less concerned with high-quality audio.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance...
post #4739 of 5121
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Originally Posted by bmurray716 View Post

Could be the sensor on the avr. You might want to try and rule out a bad remote though by bringing your remote to a Best Buy or other store that carries the Pio 1019 and test it out. Did the Harmony work at one time and now it doesn't? If the Harmony never worked correctly, that could just be a programming issue. I'd start with the avr remote and begin trouble shooting from there.

If your original Pio 1019 remote is able to control another 1019 correctly I'd say it's likely a bad sensor on the avr. Have an authorized Pio repair shop check it and hopefully it's still under warrenty. If on the other hand your original Pio 1019 remote does not control another unit, then could be something wrong with the remote. going to have to try a few things and post back.

I am a bit out of luck. the warranty expired last fall and I was too stupid to not to take it to the local authorize pioneer center but the remote seemed fine albeit it worked intermittently. I'll try Best Buy but I don't think they have any more locally but I'm in a different city not where the best buy I got it from resides.
post #4740 of 5121
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It doesn't matter whether its the same store you got it from. The point is to be able to access another 1019 unit to test your remote out on. See if there is an authorized repair close by and if so, see if they have a unit that you could test your remote out on. If your remote works correctly with another unit, then chances are that your unit's sensor may be the problem. Doesn't even have to be the exact same unit as the same remote may be used for the 1018 as well (you'd have to confirm that). As for the warrenty I'd plead my case to Pio as best I could and see what happens. The worst they can say is that they will not cover it and your no worst off. Don't be too hard on yourself for not bringing it in sooner. No one is perfect. Good luck and post back how you made out.
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