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post #4891 of 5121
Guyz,
My setup is as follows
Pivos Media player-> Pioneer 1019-> 40ft 24awg 1.3b cable -> Optoma HD20 projector. There are flickers and noises. now if i try the media player directly without the amp there is no noise(same cable). same happens with my cable box or Xbox. now from my understanding its the 'deepcolor' mode of pioneer is the culprit which cant be tuned off.
note: if i switch on deepcolor in media player same noise even without the amp.

Any suggestion? hdmi repeter/switch/amp in between may be?

Saif
post #4892 of 5121
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Originally Posted by kezug View Post

Hi, I need a refresher on my receiver (actually a 919, but thought to post here as this gets a little more traffic since its now as old).

I am stumped on the purpose of Auto Surround, A.L.C., Direct and Pure Direct. I have setup MCACC and it is on but I just dont know which of the above I want to set my Receiver up with.

I want to take advantage of what MCACC has done and I want the best sound as it was intended without any further artificial additives.

Please advise and thanks in advance.

I assume you can read the manual for the definition but in practical terms, I like Auto as it switches to the format I have selected for that particular input signal. what that means is that on auto, when I am watching tv over my cable box, the avr will either chose "digital" for 5.1 signals, or if it is a stereo audio signal, automatically goes to "Dolby Prologic II Movie". when I switch to my internet radio the avr automatically switches to "Adv Surround - Ext Stereo". I don't have to do anything which is nice. Sometimes if I am watching a bd at ref level I like to manually switch to direct mode. I don't, but if I were to listen to music (i.e., SACD) I may chose pure direct to remove any digital processing. There is no right answer, as it's all preference.



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Originally Posted by Saif87 View Post

Guyz,
My setup is as follows
Pivos Media player-> Pioneer 1019-> 40ft 24awg 1.3b cable -> Optoma HD20 projector. There are flickers and noises. now if i try the media player directly without the amp there is no noise(same cable). same happens with my cable box or Xbox. now from my understanding its the 'deepcolor' mode of pioneer is the culprit which cant be tuned off.
note: if i switch on deepcolor in media player same noise even without the amp.

Any suggestion? hdmi repeter/switch/amp in between may be?

Saif

My set up is not like yours but since no one else has responded to you I will give you my thoughts. I don't believe "deep color" is the issue as no one I know of has had any issue with this feature. Could be something to do with your hdmi repeater/switch. Easy enough to do a few experiments by connecting device to display without repeater/switch or even using a different cable (i.e., composite). Hook up devices to another display if you have another and see if you get same problem. Try to isolate. Good luck and post back results. Try switching the hdmi input used on the avr.
post #4893 of 5121
I think I was wrong with one thing I said. I thought that ALC output all speakers equally but after Bmurray posted I think it's called EXT STereo instead.
post #4894 of 5121
I thought I had a blown speaker, but I replaced it and it is still distorted. I'm assuming it is a setting on the receiver, but not sure how or what setting to change. The distortion even happens at low sound levels and does not seem to discriminate between hi and low frequencies. Please help an ignorant soul!
post #4895 of 5121
Tried checking the wires. They seem fine. Can the actually center channel on the receiver be blown??
post #4896 of 5121
Sure it could. I had a bad front left channel when I got my avr and had it repaired under warranty. I would try to eliminate all other possible issues prior to that if it is not under warranty. Describe what distortion your getting and is it with all sources?
post #4897 of 5121
Hi Guys,


I have a xbox, comcast box, airport express all feeding into this receiver. However, i want to hook up a new CD player and a new integrated amplifier (I'm thinking Peachtree nova) into this and have those drive my 2 channel music. I don't have any surround speakers. I do have a HSU STF-2 subwoofer hooked up to the receiver's sub out.

Since this receiver does not have a pre-out for left/right,can I use zone 2 in the above scenario and basically get all audio to go from the receiver into the integrated amp (set to HT bypass mode). I'm trying to avoid upgrading to a new receiver just to get the pre-amp feature. Thanks for any insight.

post #4898 of 5121
is there a way to have this receiver in stand by mode? I just purchased a power center and would like to send a trigger from the 1019 to turn on the power center. I have tried using a 3.5m mono cable from both the IR out and CONTROL out on the back of the receiver to the DC IN on the back of the power center...and nothing. I read or heard somewhere that the receiver has to have a standby feature. I looked all over and can not figure it out.

or is there something that needs to be done to turn on the "control out"

Thanks,
Jeff
post #4899 of 5121
Quote:
Originally Posted by saiko View Post

Hi Guys,


I have a xbox, comcast box, airport express all feeding into this receiver. However, i want to hook up a new CD player and a new integrated amplifier (I'm thinking Peachtree nova) into this and have those drive my 2 channel music. I don't have any surround speakers. I do have a HSU STF-2 subwoofer hooked up to the receiver's sub out.

Since this receiver does not have a pre-out for left/right,can I use zone 2 in the above scenario and basically get all audio to go from the receiver into the integrated amp (set to HT bypass mode). I'm trying to avoid upgrading to a new receiver just to get the pre-amp feature. Thanks for any insight.

Check page 3, Basic Multi-Zone Set Up (Zone 2), of your manual. You can use the Zone 2 feature of the 1019 to send analog audio only to a powered amp. If you connect your CD player to the 1019 using RCA cable, then the CD player device can send its signal to zone 2 which in your case is a separate powered amp. If you connect your Airport Express to the 1019 with RCA cable (in addition to the optical) you would then be able to listen to it on Zone 2 as well.
post #4900 of 5121
Quote:
Originally Posted by eurovw89 View Post

is there a way to have this receiver in stand by mode? I just purchased a power center and would like to send a trigger from the 1019 to turn on the power center. I have tried using a 3.5m mono cable from both the IR out and CONTROL out on the back of the receiver to the DC IN on the back of the power center...and nothing. I read or heard somewhere that the receiver has to have a standby feature. I looked all over and can not figure it out.

or is there something that needs to be done to turn on the "control out"

Thanks,
Jeff

no, neither of those will work, what you are looking for is a 12v trigger...

"control out" is to control other pioneer devices...
"ir out" is, well, ir...
post #4901 of 5121
Hey Chris, nice to see yer still around
post #4902 of 5121
^^^

howdy mate... good to see a few of the "old crowd" is still here too...

still stick my head in every now and then to try and help (or not help, as the case may be... )...
post #4903 of 5121
Hi guys,

I've owned this receiver for about a year and half but it was just servicing a pair of speakers in my living, (until just recently when I finally completed my dedicated TV room, where I've got 7.1) so I don't really have any experience with what it's actually capable of.

One main question I have, is whether there's a way to have the receiver display what the frequency of the input audio signal is. I have a PC and playstation both hooked up with HDMI, and they are both capable of sending PCM in a variety of formats. I have a few DVD audio discs that have 96Khz tracks on the DVD layer and the PS3 will play them; but I'm not sure if there PS3 is sending the PCM bitstream, or downsampling to 44.1 or 48Khz as the receiver front panel just lights up "PCM"...

Secondly, the manual seems to indicate on page 86 that one should run a standard MCACC and then also run the Accoustic Calibration EQ Professional, as it seems to correct in a lower/shorter time range than the standard calibration. Does that make sense? What process do you guys typically follow to get the most out of MCACC's room correction?
post #4904 of 5121
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saif87 View Post

Guyz,
My setup is as follows
Pivos Media player-> Pioneer 1019-> 40ft 24awg 1.3b cable -> Optoma HD20 projector. There are flickers and noises. now if i try the media player directly without the amp there is no noise(same cable). same happens with my cable box or Xbox. now from my understanding its the 'deepcolor' mode of pioneer is the culprit which cant be tuned off.
note: if i switch on deepcolor in media player same noise even without the amp.

Any suggestion? hdmi repeter/switch/amp in between may be?

Saif

Nothing could solve the problem. tried monoprice repeater, then a powered hdmi switch with same result. Finally used a shorter run of 25ft. now everything is working except i had to run flat HDMI cable under my leaving room carpet and the wiring does not look as 'neat' as before. still much better then nothing.

Saif
post #4905 of 5121
Quote:
Originally Posted by Felgar View Post

Hi guys,

I've owned this receiver for about a year and half but it was just servicing a pair of speakers in my living, (until just recently when I finally completed my dedicated TV room, where I've got 7.1) so I don't really have any experience with what it's actually capable of.

One main question I have, is whether there's a way to have the receiver display what the frequency of the input audio signal is. I have a PC and playstation both hooked up with HDMI, and they are both capable of sending PCM in a variety of formats. I have a few DVD audio discs that have 96Khz tracks on the DVD layer and the PS3 will play them; but I'm not sure if there PS3 is sending the PCM bitstream, or downsampling to 44.1 or 48Khz as the receiver front panel just lights up "PCM"...

Secondly, the manual seems to indicate on page 86 that one should run a standard MCACC and then also run the Accoustic Calibration EQ Professional, as it seems to correct in a lower/shorter time range than the standard calibration. Does that make sense? What process do you guys typically follow to get the most out of MCACC's room correction?

A lot of current devices (i.e., BD Players, etc.) can do a good job at decoding the audio format and send that to the AVR as PCM. The 1019 display will indicate PCM and not the original format as it has already been decoded and therefore the AVR has no way of knowing what it was originally. Doesn't really matter as your going to hear the same thing. A lot of folks (including me) like to see the AVR indicate the original format of the signal before decoding so choose to have the device send in bitstream. In this case, the AVR is doing the decoding. Again, you hear the same thing.

As far as how to run MCACC, try using the method provided in the beginning of the MCACC dedicated thread found here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1112470

If you have any questions, post there as they are pretty good about helping out.


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Originally Posted by Saif87 View Post

Nothing could solve the problem. tried monoprice repeater, then a powered hdmi switch with same result. Finally used a shorter run of 25ft. now everything is working except i had to run flat HDMI cable under my leaving room carpet and the wiring does not look as 'neat' as before. still much better then nothing.

Saif

Glad you got a working solution. I would think that others out there have run 40 foot of hdmi without loosing signal strength, although looks like you tried the obvious solutions in order to boost the signal. Wouldn't a heavier gauge (i.e., thicker) cable provide for less resistance and therefore less signal loss? Something like this:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #4906 of 5121
can anybody tell me why the program format indicators don't light up on my vsx 1019?
i am running blue ray player pcm on dolby II movie
post #4907 of 5121
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillout View Post


1. Is there a way to assign HDMI to default on startup (startup is always SAT/TV)

I have spent hours Googling this. Really? There is no fix for this?

Is it the same new newer models? Anyone called Pioneer support?

BZ
post #4908 of 5121
Quote:
Originally Posted by flanntastic View Post

can anybody tell me why the program format indicators don't light up on my vsx 1019?
i am running blue ray player pcm on dolby II movie

Exactly. PCM means that your source device is doing the decoding and sending the result to the avr. Set your BD to bitstream and you will then see the format indicators light up on the avr as then it will be doing the decoding. In the end, you'll hear the same thing.
post #4909 of 5121
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Originally Posted by BwanaZulia View Post

I have spent hours Googling this. Really? There is no fix for this?

Is it the same new newer models? Anyone called Pioneer support?

BZ

the "fix" is to turn off hdmi control...
post #4910 of 5121
Hi every1. I got issue with my new subwoofer on my VSX-1019. I had no sub before and i just bough the ED a7s-650.

I hear very little sound coming from it, Every speaker are set to small and i need to sit beside the sub to hear something My a7s-650 is running with a behringer 4000 amp so i have no juice problem. Any1 know the problem? ( i dont think its the sub... its new... same for the amp) How to know if Pre-out is working as intended? I've run accros lots of subwoofer doesnt works with pionner amp, but there's never a clear answer. How to know if pre-out working as intented?
post #4911 of 5121
do you hear the test tones for the sub when you run MCACC? Make sure you have the sub connected to the correct output on the avr as many have made the mistake of connecting the rca cable to the "Multi-CH In Subwoofer" instead of the "Subwoofer Pre Out". Also, try connecting the sub directly to the avr w/o the behringer amp to see if that works.
post #4912 of 5121
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Originally Posted by bmurray716 View Post

do you hear the test tones for the sub when you run MCACC? Make sure you have the sub connected to the correct output on the avr as many have made the mistake of connecting the rca cable to the "Multi-CH In Subwoofer" instead of the "Subwoofer Pre Out". Also, try connecting the sub directly to the avr w/o the behringer amp to see if that works.

Thx for quick reply
Yes i have a little sound during MCACC, but nothing like what it is suppose to be, it is not on Par with my speaker and the a7s-650 is huge and 225 lbs. It should produce epic bass. Cable is really connected to the pre-out. I just tried to unplug my left tower and plug it in the sub instead. I've also tried to disconnect all my speakers and drive the sub alone with the speaker wire from my receiver left tower. It was working i was hearing little sound but very thin ( probably due to the fact the subs needs 1300 watt and the VSX1019 amp is weak). I'll try to hook it to my channel 2 on my behringer maybe channel one is defective... But with all thread i've read with subwoofer and this receiver. I'm pretty sure its the receiver
post #4913 of 5121
Ok during MCACC i get error saying : subwoofer lvl is too low
post #4914 of 5121
Yep, also make sure you have either disabled the crossover on the sub, or set it to its max setting and set the crossover on the AVR so you don't have dual crossovers.

Most set their sub gain at 10 o'clock, run MCACC, and see where you are. Best to be as close to zero when MCACC is done to give you room to adjust afterwards. However, due to your sub, lots of the "regular" ways of doing things may not apply.

The 1019 is only rated at 90 W min (the 120 W I think is a max or peak). Anyway, your sub is powered so the 1019 is only providing the signal with no amplification. Not exactly sure why you need the behringer but I'm sure you have your reasons. Good luck and hope you get it all sorted.
post #4915 of 5121
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Originally Posted by bmurray716 View Post

Yep, also make sure you have either disabled the crossover on the sub, or set it to its max setting and set the crossover on the AVR so you don't have dual crossovers.

Most set their sub gain at 10 o'clock, run MCACC, and see where you are. Best to be as close to zero when MCACC is done to give you room to adjust afterwards. However, due to your sub, lots of the "regular" ways of doing things may not apply.

The 1019 is only rated at 90 W min (the 120 W I think is a max or peak). 1300 W requirement is a bit more than the 1019 was designed for. Hope you get it all sorted.

There's no cross over on the sub, i dont have a plate amp, i use external professional amp designed for 4000 watt... I've set the Xover to 200 to test it. The gain is at 10 0 clock, nothing change.

I was thinking something, The subwooffer is a DIY version of the a7s-650, Everything is given except the speaker wires, i used normal 16 gauge speaker wires to wire everything up. Is there a limit to the number of watt a 16 gauge can carry? should i get stronger wire and rewire the whole thing?
post #4916 of 5121
you might want to post this in the sub section of the forum and see if those guys can help out as I thought you had a powered sub. Now I understand why the Behringer as your sub is passive. Gauge and power are certainly related but I do not know how to make that determination. You may get some help with selecting the appropriate speaker wire by contacting Monoprice.
post #4917 of 5121
Yeah i did, wire not the problem... so i'm getting back to the receiver, how to know for sure if pre-out is defective??? I see there's a few other RCA out on the vsx-1019, does the out all works at the same time?? Can i just plug the subwoofer rca wire directly to the DVR out just to test???
post #4918 of 5121
Ok after reading this thread ( damn it is long ) i updated my firmware ( from 1.020 to 1.056) I get more sound coming from sub now (at least i can run MCACC which proves the signal changed a little) which brings me back to my pre-out. If i understand the chain, my pre out send a signal to my amp, If i crack up Gain on my amp ( or volume) at max, means only i get 100% from my signal power ? So if sub doesnt play loud enough, mostly because of receiver?? i need to be sure since sub and amp are new and i need to know while its on guarantee. In the same idea, if i buy something to raise my signal between amp and receiver i can raise subwoofer volume?
post #4919 of 5121
if you are now able to run MCACC without getting any error messages about the sub being too low then you may be making some headway. now go into mcacc and see what it set for your crossover and what the speaker level it set for the sub. just in case you didn't know, there is a separate MCACC thread (see here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1112470) which provides great info on how to get the best out of that program once you have gotten this sub business straightened out. Just to be clear, after you run MCACC the first time, it will almost always reset your fronts to large, and you need to go back into MCACC and manually change them back to small.
post #4920 of 5121
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Originally Posted by bmurray716 View Post

if you are now able to run MCACC without getting any error messages about the sub being too low then you may be making some headway. now go into mcacc and see what it set for your crossover and what the speaker level it set for the sub. just in case you didn't know, there is a separate MCACC thread (see here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1112470) which provides great info on how to get the best out of that program once you have gotten this sub business straightened out. Just to be clear, after you run MCACC the first time, it will almost always reset your fronts to large, and you need to go back into MCACC and manually change them back to small.

Yeah already did that part, I've set everyspeaker in the negative and the subwoofer at +10 DB, that way i can set gain on the amp at 50% to get ok sound from SUB and 100% for it to be really loud. I can live with that but it's just weird, i doubt it is the way it is suppose to be =)

I'll try a brand new Rca-Rca + 1/4 adaptor this week instead of RCA to XLR ( there's both imput on the amp) maybe this is causing problem, the unbalanced output into a balanced input.
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