Official Onkyo TX-SR707 Thread [No Price Talk] - Page 75

v1.22 is the latest known firmware that has been shipped with the latest batch of 707s from onkyo.

Dont know where to get it from though

After being backordered for a few weeks, I finally ordered a 707 this morning. Supposed to get it in a week! Now the website says backordered...Hopefully that was after they filled my order!

I have been reading the post and was curious at what firmware I had. I just unboxed it, and checked, it's 1.19. I bought from B&H on 23jan10, and received it 5 days later. Speakers and wires are in place. Hooking it up tomorrow.

Just to let anyone whose confused with RIHD understand the receiver will not shut a Sony tv off shut the tv off first and this will shut the everything including the receiver off. Once you shut the onkyo off with the onkyo power the tv will not turn it on you must shut everything off again with the tv again which resets it. I shut the onkyo first I do not like it gong on with the tv. The pass through for cable will only work if you have RIHD on and the receiver before shutting off was on the input you'd like to watch with it off otherwise you must turn the receiver on switch it to the input of the cable box then shut the receiver off, unless it has HDMI CEC then you don't need to worry it will switch itself without turning the receiver on.

I'm sorry but, could you please provide a better explanation of the problem? I don't quite follow your explanation without some missing commas.

Thanks
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woot! just got my TX-SR707 from crutchfield. $659 shipped. not as great a price as back around christmas or what newegg was advertising earlier this month ($599), but not bad.

it's my first receiver and i'm running the signal through a powered 2.1 bose system via the preouts until i can afford some real speakers. one of the reasons i went with the 707 was for the preouts. i

now, onto the good stuff. i'm staring at the infinity TSS-1200 salivating. i haven't yet heard them in person. does anyone else have the TSS-1200 system with their 707? i'm looking at infinity since i used to work in an electronics store and the infinity home audio subs were, hands down, the best i've heard. heavy as hell, too. this was over 3 years ago, though.

my house has been pre-wired for surround sound with mounts on the wall at around 7', so i've been looking at something that's smaller than your average kindergartner.

at aforementioned electronics store, i was rather partial to a polk package very similar to the RM6750, though i cannot remember if that was the specific package. they sounded great, if a little tinny, at modest volume, but they distorted very quickly and grossly at higher volumes. i was ready to accept that for the price, but i never got around to buying anything.

so, i want something that will hang on my wall, sounds great for my home theater, but will still pound if i want to crank up the music.

thoughts/suggestions?

Ok. (pressing the buttons on the unit itself, not the remote, is key). So I'm at v1.14 (bought last November). I'll wait to see if Onkyo offers an official update, as I've not noticed any problems with the current system.

Hold down DISPLAY

Press Power/Standby and then release both.

Firmware should pop right up and display.

Make sure your pressing the buttons on the receiver and not the remote

Yes, that was the problem.

Hi

It is my impression that de Faroudja upscale is not working. Did all the correct settings and connections. Have a 480i input from a S-video cable-box and a component video input from a DVD player. The output is a very good Monster cable HDMI to a Sony Bravia Full HD (brand new). Although the receiver says the signal is outputting and scaling to 1080p (as I set it to do so), the image has no improvements, comparing if I set the input source directly to the television (the TV has no upscaling capability) or if I set the receiver simply to pass-through the input signal. I was hopping some video quality gain in the 480i-cable-box signal, also in the DVD signal, specially when converted to 1080p output. But no. Something I am doing wrong? How could I test if the Faroudja is not working at all or how could I test any improvement if there is something at all?

Thank you in advance, Daniel

For the people complaining about clicking with DirectTV... I had clicking when I first got the 707. Since I've changed my listening mode presets, I have none, and I've seen it switch modes several times since. "Analog/PCM" and "D.F. 2ch" are set to "PLII Movie Audyssey DSX". "D.F. Mono" is set to "All Ch Stereo". Everything else (there are 2 pages) is set to "Audyssey DSX".

I don't think you have a faulty Receiver .
480i has an aspect ratio of 4:3 - Standard Definition 640x480.
1080p is widescreen with aspect ratio of 16:9 - High Definition 1920x1080.
Many would assume that upscaling to 1080 from a lower resolution would end up with better images. Fact is, upscaling/upconverting will not provide High Definition contents since video information could only be retained or lost in each successive conversion, but not created.

Page 125 in the manual may provide some answer to your question:
"The AV receiver can upconvert component video,S-
Video, and composite video sources for display on a TV
connected to the HDMI OUT. However, if the picture
quality of the source is poor, upconversion may make the
picture worse or disappear altogether.
In this case, try the following:"

I was watching a movie on my Oppo, I decided to watch tv so I had switched it to the cable box when the sound did not come out of any speakers. The picture was on screen, the OSD of the receiver showed a 5.1 sound was being fed just none heard. When I shut the receiver the sound came out fine on the tv speakers so the HDMI pass through was working properly and so it was obviously not the component but the receiver itself I had also went back to the Oppo and there was no sound out of this input either. I figured it might've been a handshake issue which I still think It was so I unplugged HDMI's. Still didn't work. Shut RIHD off. Still didn't work. Finally I decided to unplug the receiver and plugged it back in and sound worked again. I have not had this issue since I've owned the receiver but it struck me as odd. Has any one ever experienced this issue or have any idea what happened? Before you ask it was not muted either.

I set up my receiver today w/ my def tech speakers. Initially I played between the DVD and Cable. It was very impressive. I ran Audissey, and after you could tell a difference, but now the volume will not go nearly as high. It stops at +8.5, and isn't that loud. Anyone know what could cause this? I've been through the manual and troubleshooting, but can't find anything.

I experienced the same thing when I ordered mine through U.S. Appliance. There was an issue with my billing address and the shipping address, so I went to their website and saw that they no longer had stock of the 707. I was able to confirm mine shipped and will arrive on Tuesday, so I wouldn't assume you won't receive yours. Many times, businesses will stop taking new orders days in advance to a shortage because they are aware that might cause issues. Also, I was lucky, I found a Bountii coupon for over 200.00 off the list price and was able to procure mine for around 570.00 shipped! These specials sure don't last long!!

The DB the speakers are set too effects how loud the receiver goes, but Audyssey usually sets itself too low so I don't know mess with the speaker calibration that should fix the issue. But you're saying it sounds better so my question to you is at +8 is it still loud?

uhm, upscaling is not going to make the video quality any better. you can't make something from nothing. it's like having a 2.5 megapixel camera and expecting it to take 5 megapixel pictures. won't happen.

the upscaling is working if your TV says the input signal is 1080p. again, the image is not going to just magically improve for no reason. while it's certainly possible that the receiver may do a better or worse job than your TV when displaying the image, i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if both images are exactly the same.

No, it's not loud at all. I'll try the speaker Cal. Thanks.

Is Dynamic EQ & Dynamic Volume engaged?
Check and ensure that 'Night Modes' & 'DRC' (Dynamic Range Compression) are disabled in the source component.
Audyssey corrects room acoustical problems. If you have calibrated your system properly, it will provide reference level of film mix but not all music production. You may increase the trim levels in the speakers to preference level and that will not change the filter performance after calibration.

Well I made the plunge on a 707 today, so I can be in the club to! So far I'm really digging it! I've not really messed with that many of the options or did a complete setup yet. I only currently got the 3 fronts running. The rest of my stuff should be here by the middle of next week. I could have gotten the yammy 665 a whole lot cheaper, but the Audyssey calibration, and DSX sound modes really sold me. I don't know if I'll go 7.1 with rear surrounds, or if I'll go with front wides!

I do have some relay clicking, but since I'm only running a PS3 and 360 through it, it's not really a big deal, as I only get it maybe a couple times as it cycles through a game or movie. I could see how it would bother a person running cable where the sound switches a lot.

I do think I'm going to use it as a pre/pro for the fronts. I'll have to wait and see what it does to the power output when I add in the other 4 speakers. Right now, I can go a little over halfway up before you can audibly hear it start to struggle with my Klipsch RF-35's. Running a line out to my old 506 for the fronts and biwiring them made a noticeable difference in output. I have the 506 driving the tweeters, and the 707 pushing the woofers. I'll probably undo the bi wire tomorrow. The only time I really crank it is when I'm listening to music and cleaning house, so I can get by with what i have until I can afford a decent power amp.

I do have one question though. If I were to run a smaller size sub off of each tower through the line ins on the sub, would it take some of the stress of the power amp section of the amp? Logically, it will take some of the stress off of the towers because they are not working as hard to produce those lower frequencies, but I never thought about it from the receiver perspective.

All guides do say so and it would only make sense they are right I think. I am no professional in these kind of matters, but I believe that is does take out stress from the amp indeed.

I may give it a shot! There are some pretty decent smallish sized subs out there for not a lot of money. They don't have to be the room pounding, wall shaking kind. That's what the 2 sub outs on the receiver are for!

You might wanna consider that the 707 comes with Audyssey MultEQ which perform extremely well in redirecting the low frequencies to Subwoofer.
Driving 2 Subs as 1 unit requires proper time and distance alignment from the main listening position.
Try running Audyssey calibration 1st and if required, add that 2nd Sub later.
This may be useful.

I tried the dynamic volume and EQ, on a off. The more I raise the speaker calibration, the lower the max volume goes. I raised all speakers to 12, and the 707s volume stopped at 0.0. I lowered to the 4-5 range, volume stops at 5.5. It does it on my PS3 and Hdmi cable box.

Thank you for your answer. But follow this thinking,
my input signals are not a poor one. Both are digital. However one is from a TV-set-of-box (S-Video) and the other form a DVD player (component-video).

If I receive a HD signal in 720p or 1080p, I don't need an upscale processor. I need it from a Standard video input signal.

If the Faroudja processor doesn´t make any difference from an standard video input signal, what it is for? Even if the source is 480i, the processor can interpolate, create more intermediate frames, can do many algoriths to improve image quality. Don't you agree? If this is note de case, we don´t need to pay for an upscale processor, or we are paying for nothing.

Daniel

Thank you for your answer. But follow this thinking,
my input signals are not a poor one. Both are digital. However one is from a TV-set-of-box (S-Video) and the other form a DVD player (component-video).

If I receive a HD signal in 720p or 1080p, I don't need an upscale processor. I need it from a Standard video input signal.

If the Faroudja processor doesn´t make any difference from an standard video input signal, what it is for? Even if the source is 480i, the processor can interpolate, create more intermediate frames, can do many algoriths to improve image quality. Don't you agree? If this is note de case, we don´t need to pay for an upscale processor, or we are paying for nothing.

Daniel

That video processor the 707 comes with isn't that great regardless. I shut the processor off completely which on page 26 THX suggests. It brings too many issues to image as it processes all images, and does not work as pass through properly unless off. You don't buy a 707 for it's "great upcoversion abilities and video processing". You would spend much more money for a receiver that is any where better then the upconversion already in your TV itself.

I have a HP DV6-3048 notebook and the 707/Sony wont recognize it when plugged into the front HDMI on the 707. Try two difference HDMI cables.

The 707 is connected to the Sony XBR6 via HDMI. All other stuff, PS3, CD player, WII and IPOD are connected directly to the 707 and i have no other issues with display or sound. The 707 upscales everything, no passthrough set up now.


I can plug the HP directly into my G10 Panasonic Plasma via hdmi and it works great so i am thinking the HPs settings are ok.


Am i missing something with the 707 handling PC's, or passing it up to the Sony? Any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Do you have the HDMI port mapped to the correct input on the front? What button are you selecting on the front for the source?