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post #61 of 99
can't see MS doing something that foolish, either by creating new xboxes with this newer technology or by add-on. They have the last 20 years of gaming to look back on and see that trying to implement new technology through add-ons never sell or catch on well. I agree with another poster that maybe for a next-gen console this would work but not with current gen xboxes. So i gotta call bs on that.
post #62 of 99
Actually I think Microsoft is going to push Natal and downloadable entertainment (music, movies and games) and move more and more away from physical media.

A 2-4 gb game with Natal is more interesting to me then a 40gb game without Natal. And I think thats what is Microsoft gameplan.

On PC the only time I now buy a physical game, is because it gonna be cheaper then download the same game from Steam as an example. But other then that its online purchases for me.
post #63 of 99
Noting titles CBHD is in how much they've given me some months ago that are appearing all the cover art is in Chinese and English, besides the audio too well in English in 99% of the securities which suggests that TCL is imminent and will take their SHINCO players to the USA and Europe with the HD DVD logo, everything suggests that these players will have new firmware capable of playing the old HD DVDs.

You can contracta of the titles in ToBAO.

http://cbhd.taobao.com/?search=y&pri...d&isNew=&ends=
post #64 of 99
I'll take I am Legend, The Island, Day After Tomorrow, Batman Begins, Get Smart, Shawshank Redemption, The Matrix collection and 1 player please.
If I could only figure out how to order.
Do the movies come in retail plastic wrapping? (Sealed)
Do they have the damn security stickers which make it hard to open when theyre on 3 sides?
Seriously I'd like to import a player for the hell of it-the phoenix returns from the ashes!
post #65 of 99
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

I'll take I am Legend, The Island, Day After Tomorrow, Batman Begins, Get Smart, Shawshank Redemption, The Matrix collection and 1 player please.
If I could only figure out how to order.
Do the movies come in retail plastic wrapping? (Sealed)
Do they have the damn security stickers which make it hard to open when theyre on 3 sides?
Seriously I'd like to import a player for the hell of it-the phoenix returns from the ashes!

where are you?

You can buy the player with 15 movies in this website uk.
http://gbax.com/cbhd.html

You can also buy through estoi Amazon.cn but not sure if shipping to the U.S..

http://www.amazon.cn/s/ref=nb_ss?url...chKind=keyword
post #66 of 99
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Originally Posted by segaklon View Post

where are you?

You can buy the player with 15 movies in this website uk.
http://gbax.com/cbhd.html

You can also buy through estoi Amazon.cn but not sure if shipping to the U.S..

http://www.amazon.cn/s/ref=nb_ss?url...chKind=keyword

I am in the USA-Detroit Michigan area.
I would also have to maybe get a voltage converter (if the player doesnt have a universal power supply)?
post #67 of 99
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

I am in the USA-Detroit Michigan area.
I would also have to maybe get a voltage converter (if the player doesnt have a universal power supply)?

Des know the voltage and current used in China in uk going to 220 and those players are going to 220V TCL.

If anyone knows more about that comment.
post #68 of 99
In the spec of the TCL player it said 220v/50Hz. It is not meant for export so I doubt it is multi voltage.

Movies like Transporter 3 and Lord of War are real cheap. Under $5 from the taobao link. Don't know if it is possible to buy from oversea. I do hope there will soon be a PC player for CBHD so I can start importing movies. Or China will one day make a universal player to play them all (BD/HDDVD/CBHD), probably not possible due to licence. But I do believe that PC support is crucial in boosting its momentum.
post #69 of 99
I bought the Shinco 9100 from China last October, it is univeral voltage from 110-240v 50/60Hz, in fact, most of the DVD/HD players in China are universal voltage, no problem for use in the US. The player comes with 25 free CBHD movies, inluding "The Island", and all the Hollywood movies come with the original English track. I paid around $300 back then, now you can get it for <$200, it won't play HDDVD, however.
post #70 of 99
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Originally Posted by pww118 View Post

I bought the Shinco 9100 from China last October, it is univeral voltage from 110-240v 50/60Hz, in fact, most of the DVD/HD players in China are universal voltage, no problem for use in the US. The player comes with 25 free CBHD movies, inluding "The Island", and all the Hollywood movies come with the original English track. I paid around $300 back then, now you can get it for <$200, it won't play HDDVD, however.

You can confirm that HD DVD will not play, and if possible upload a demo video.
Apart from the English language can confirm if the movies include Spanish audio.

thanks
post #71 of 99
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Originally Posted by pww118 View Post

I bought the Shinco 9100 from China last October, it is univeral voltage from 110-240v 50/60Hz, in fact, most of the DVD/HD players in China are universal voltage, no problem for use in the US. The player comes with 25 free CBHD movies, inluding "The Island", and all the Hollywood movies come with the original English track. I paid around $300 back then, now you can get it for <$200, it won't play HDDVD, however.


Could you post a guide for how to navigate the chinese sites to order a player and some discs please?
post #72 of 99
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Originally Posted by pww118 View Post

I bought the Shinco 9100 from China last October, it is univeral voltage from 110-240v 50/60Hz, in fact, most of the DVD/HD players in China are universal voltage, no problem for use in the US. The player comes with 25 free CBHD movies, inluding "The Island", and all the Hollywood movies come with the original English track. I paid around $300 back then, now you can get it for <$200, it won't play HDDVD, however.

Thanks for the info. If the spec is correct then the Shinco is multi voltage but TCL is not. So Shinco seems to be the better choice for import.

http://product.pconline.com.cn/video...10_detail.html
http://product.pconline.com.cn/video...72_detail.html

As the Shinco can't playback HDDVD, does it has the same HDDVD China logo like the TCL? Do you have any source to buy CBHD movies online?
post #73 of 99
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Originally Posted by segaklon View Post

You can confirm that HD DVD will not play, and if possible upload a demo video.
Apart from the English language can confirm if the movies include Spanish audio.

thanks

No there is no Spanish track on any of the CBHDs that I have.
post #74 of 99
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

Could you post a guide for how to navigate the chinese sites to order a player and some discs please?

I am not sure whether those sites ship products outside of China, they may not even accept credit card as payment method. Let me check and report back.
post #75 of 99
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Originally Posted by peterho3 View Post

Thanks for the info. If the spec is correct then the Shinco is multi voltage but TCL is not. So Shinco seems to be the better choice for import.

http://product.pconline.com.cn/video...10_detail.html
http://product.pconline.com.cn/video...72_detail.html

As the Shinco can't playback HDDVD, does it has the same HDDVD China logo like the TCL? Do you have any source to buy CBHD movies online?

The Shinco one does not have the HDDVD logo on the machine. I was looking for the TCL model back then, but none of the stores carry it. It seems like there are 2 versions of the same TCL model, one with the logo and one without. Only the one that was displayed in the CES show carries the logo, maybe the new version has a new firmware on it that is also compatible with HDDVD.
post #76 of 99
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Originally Posted by pww118 View Post

I am not sure whether those sites ship products outside of China, they may not even accept credit card as payment method. Let me check and report back.


Did you have a chance to see if they ship overseas?
I likely will be in Shanghai in the next 2-3 months.
Is there a store you can recommend who sells the players and discs in shanghai?
post #77 of 99
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

Did you have a chance to see if they ship overseas?
I likely will be in Shanghai in the next 2-3 months.
Is there a store you can recommend who sells the players and discs in shanghai?

I checked, none of them ship outside of China, and they don't take credit card as payment for online sale. So your best bet is go to either Guomei or Suning electronic stores when you are in Shanghai, there is a Best Buy store in Shanghai that you can check out as well. If you want to see if the TCL model is compatible with HDDVD, bring a HDDVD movie with you then you can check it out on site. Good luck and have a nice trip.
post #78 of 99
does anyone got this player in the us
and with movies
i wonder how is the quality on these newoldy format
i wish someone updates the details of video and audio information?
post #79 of 99
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Originally Posted by vamovie View Post

does anyone got this player in the us
and with movies
i wonder how is the quality on these newoldy format
i wish someone updates the details of video and audio information?

I should be travelling to china before May 14'th for work and plan on visiting the local best buy to check out the standalone players and titles. I am seriously considering purchasing a player and bringing it back with me and along with a handfull of movies!
post #80 of 99
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

I should be travelling to china before May 14'th for work and plan on visiting the local best buy to check out the standalone players and titles. I am seriously considering purchasing a player and bringing it back with me and along with a handfull of movies!

Nice
please udpate for us
check if the CBHD disc will play in regular bd-rom drive
what are the video/audio spec's if it does?
what the movie size and bit rate stuff like that?
post #81 of 99
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Originally Posted by vamovie View Post

Nice
please udpate for us
check if the CBHD disc will play in regular bd-rom drive
what are the video/audio spec's if it does?
what the movie size and bit rate stuff like that?


It wont. It may be able to play old HD DVDs, but definitely wont play in a BD player. CBHD is physically identical to HD DVD, only the software is different
post #82 of 99
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

I should be travelling to china before May 14'th for work and plan on visiting the local best buy to check out the standalone players and titles. I am seriously considering purchasing a player and bringing it back with me and along with a handfull of movies!

Get a movie on HD DVD and try it there in the 5 types of players that are on sale, otherwise note the firmware version that lead, it is possible that these devices will accept the firmware from toshiba and they are the same players for the Chinese market, and there is not the question of whether they thought Shinco distribute their equipment in other markets.

I hope you post results.

greetings and good luck on that trip.
post #83 of 99
The CBHD is already in the United States, according to news source, as I pointed out has made the leap.

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http://translate.google.es/translate...11216709.shtml
post #84 of 99
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Originally Posted by segaklon View Post

The CBHD is already in the United States, according to news source, as I pointed out has made the leap.

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http://translate.google.es/translate...11216709.shtml

Your link didnt work for me.
post #85 of 99
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

Your link didnt work for me.

Do not worry at the end was a bad translation from google, for the moment the Chinese CBHD stays but is expanding at a faster rate.
post #86 of 99
Especially that the Chinese system seems to support HDDVD!

I noticed a lot of talk about playing HDDVD collection going into the future, something I was worried about as well, and with the ^%$* internet making things maybe too easy to find look what happened! Just in case I added a few back-up plans to my equipment collection:
  1. Toshiba HD-A20 'The Beginning' - now as a backup
  2. Hitachi/LG internal PC combo drive - HTPC
  3. ASUS HDDVD ROM internal PC drive - spare
  4. xBox 360 HDDVD external USB attached ROM drive - spare
  5. Toshiba HD-A30 - Living room System
  6. Toshiba HD-A35 - Home Theatre

And if this were not enough I am keeping an eye out for a spare combo drive, Hitachi/LG still seems to produce them as evidenced by this picture on an Australian site, check out the logo's on the drive face... interesting huh?

LG Australia
post #87 of 99
The specs on my LG BH08 Blu-ray dual-layer burner have HD DVD listed as a supported format. Unfortunately, as I live in Korea where HD DVD never made it in the first place, I have no acces to disks to see if they will actually work, though one web site did mention that HD DVD can be supported with this player through Power DVD. I have no information as to whether the drive can burn blank HD DVD media which is also unavailable to me.

Playing CBHD from the LG drive should be a simple matter of installing the new codec. However, so far I have been unable to locate any place to download such a codec, nor have I found any indication for software support.

Should CBHD become the monster competitor for Blu-ray that it seems it can become, then LG is in an excellent position to manufacture new drives that fully support the format along with the "dead" format of HD DVD.

I think we can expect significant developments as people interested in the format learn about how the codec works and how to rewrite firmware for proper support. Also apparently some of the Shinco models will work on any voltage 100-260 at 50 or 60 cycles making it possible to export the players to anywhere in the world.
post #88 of 99
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Originally Posted by alanwescoat View Post

The specs on my LG BH08 Blu-ray dual-layer burner have HD DVD listed as a supported format. Unfortunately, as I live in Korea where HD DVD never made it in the first place, I have no acces to disks to see if they will actually work, though one web site did mention that HD DVD can be supported with this player through Power DVD. I have no information as to whether the drive can burn blank HD DVD media which is also unavailable to me.

Playing CBHD from the LG drive should be a simple matter of installing the new codec. However, so far I have been unable to locate any place to download such a codec, nor have I found any indication for software support.

Should CBHD become the monster competitor for Blu-ray that it seems it can become, then LG is in an excellent position to manufacture new drives that fully support the format along with the "dead" format of HD DVD.

I think we can expect significant developments as people interested in the format learn about how the codec works and how to rewrite firmware for proper support. Also apparently some of the Shinco models will work on any voltage 100-260 at 50 or 60 cycles making it possible to export the players to anywhere in the world.

Maybe this is a way you can make a disc to test the some of the HDDVD compatibility. Here is a link to a site to download a test pattern disc that is basically an HDDVD formated video stream on a DVD-R. With it you should be able to see if the proper codecs were installed when the drive was installed into your system.

Look part way down the page for the HDDVD Test Pattern Disc from there you can download and burn a copy on a DVD-R to try out. BTW, this is a free resource, no copyright infringements!

http://www.w6rz.net/

IIRC this disc is recognized by my HDDVD player as a 'HDDVD'...
post #89 of 99
Thank you, Mr. Sherwood.

I downloaded and burned it. Nero would only allow me to burn it to a CD-R. My LG drive recognizes the disk as a DVD. Launching the disk results in opening Power DVD 10 which cannot read it. Apparently, I do not have the proper codecs installed. The drive came OEM with no software of any kind so I'll probably have to do some digging unless anyone on this forum can make specific recommendations.
post #90 of 99
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Originally Posted by alanwescoat View Post

Thank you, Mr. Sherwood.

I downloaded and burned it. Nero would only allow me to burn it to a CD-R. My LG drive recognizes the disk as a DVD. Launching the disk results in opening Power DVD 10 which cannot read it. Apparently, I do not have the proper codecs installed. The drive came OEM with no software of any kind so I'll probably have to do some digging unless you anyone on this forum can make specific recommendations.

Ahh yes, my good friend PowerDVD, unfortunately PDVD 10 does not support HDDVD, the version I use is PDVD 7.3 Ultra which I believe is the last version that does. Since you already have PDVD 10 installed ou may not want to go through the trouble of removing it and trying a much older version, but if you are interested here is the link to Cyberlink's site for the OEM LG version, dated Sept 10/88, be sure to get the one for BD+HD, this will update the OEM software that came with the drive.

Power DVD updates

Also interesting that Nero would only let you burn it as a CD-R, for an ISO such as this I would recommend BURN CDCC a free program that will do the job you need: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/burncdcc.html
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