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post #1471 of 9287
hey guys, I have a client using the new 1910 and we're having a horrible issue with Denon's iPod dock. The following is what I submitted to Denon -

I have a client with a Denon AVR-1910 and a Denon iPod dock ASD-1RBK. So far, we have gone through 2x new receivers, 2x different iPods, 2x different set of connection cables and 2x new docks to try and solve this issue. We keep coming back to the same problem.

The problem is that we keep receiving a message from the receiver, saying 'No connection' or 'No song selected' when docking the client's iPod. When we initially had setup the client's equipment, everything was working great. He had used it for hours. I received an email later that night saying that it had come back again. With all of the equipment being swapped out, we know that none of the equipment is defective, or if it was, we already attempted to replace it.

Any idea what this could be?
post #1472 of 9287
Has anyone been able to pass video and audio by hdmi through while in standby with the 790/1910? I really wanted it to be able to do this (I have not purchased it yet) since I will be connecting everything by hdmi and don't want to have the receiver on all the time (it will be hooked up to the main tv in my house). Thx all for any responses
post #1473 of 9287
Yes, HDMI Standby is a feature of this model. Refer to the on-line Owner's Manual at the Denon Website for more information.
post #1474 of 9287
Can anyone tell me what to look for when buying banana plugs compatible with the 1910? I once bought bananas to go with my previous Denon AVR and they were too big.

Will these work?
post #1475 of 9287
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

What size minijack was use and was it mono or stereo?

Hmm i guess minijackĀ“s only comes in one size?! I just bought regular sized minijack-minijack stereo, have no idea if you can get in mono also or other sizes.

Nevertheless, std. size minijack-minijack stereo works like a treat on the AVR-1910
post #1476 of 9287
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Originally Posted by RMcR View Post

Can anyone tell me what to look for when buying banana plugs compatible with the 1910? I once bought bananas to go with my previous Denon AVR and they were too big.


Those look fine. If you bought the dbl kind before, those do not fit.
post #1477 of 9287
batpig said alot of pages ago that the 1910 doesn't clip blacker than black (BtB) signals. I assume the same goes for whiter than white (WtW).

My question is, will it generate blacker than black (and WtW) when doing component to hdmi conversion?
If the component signal in has them of course.
post #1478 of 9287
After lot of research, I finally took the plunge and bought my Denon AVR-1910. Looks awesome; haven't set it up yet.

Need recommendations for speakers to go with this system. My budget is $800 max for a 5.1 speaker system (7.1 is out of question due to room size and layout). My family room is 22x15x12 and is carpeted with heavy cherry-wood furniture.

Looked at Klipsch and DefTech. BB has clearance on Klipsch Quintet SL for about $350 (orig. msrp $799). Plus, Klipsch Sub-12 is another $399. Total package is $749. DefTech ProCinema is 5.1 system for $799. Both sound good to me, but sounds like Klipsch may be a better deal. What do you guys think?

Any other speaker or sub recommendations? Any input is greatly appreciated.
post #1479 of 9287
Thread Starter 
more appropriate for the speaker forum.... but if you have wood furniture, and since it sounds like you are looking for a "compact" system I would HIGHLY recommend the Energy RC-Mini's which are on sale at an excellent price of $99 shipped each from Vann's in the cherry finish:
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...i_c=ss_suggest

It's a real wood veneer and the build quality is very high, it looks like high-end furniture. They have a package deal for 5.1 speakers (4 RC-Mini's and an RC-Mini center) for $699, but the sub with that package is pretty weak -- if you call up Vann's I bet they can hook you up with a similar package with a beefier sub for your $800 budget.

PS - you can get a much better sub than the Klipsch Sub12 for $400. It's probably really competitive with $200-250 type subs like the BIC F12 or PA-120.
post #1480 of 9287
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by matbl View Post

batpig said alot of pages ago that the 1910 doesn't clip blacker than black (BtB) signals. I assume the same goes for whiter than white (WtW).

My question is, will it generate blacker than black (and WtW) when doing component to hdmi conversion?
If the component signal in has them of course.

It won't clip them, I have checked test patterns feeding component in and going HDMI out to my display.
post #1481 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by rudemood12 View Post

hey guys, I have a client using the new 1910 and we're having a horrible issue with Denon's iPod dock. Any idea what this could be?

This may have already been considered; however, is listed at the Denon on line FAQ:

How do I correct the "Not Connect" error message when I'm trying to use my iPod with the ASD-1R D-dock connected to my receiver?

Answer
There are two common possibilities causing this type of communication failure. One is ground connection and the other is a bad serial control cable. For some model receivers, the audio video cables may need to be connected to the receiver in addition to the serial control cable to complete the ground path. For other receivers, the serial control stereo mini cable may supply the need ground path by itself. In some secondary cases the serial stereo mini cable is defective and would need to be replaced.
post #1482 of 9287
I`ll apologize in advance for the newb question.

Do i need any speakers to set this baby up? Can i just use the sound from my 50 inch panny?

I just purchased Avr -790, going to pickup it up next week and i have someone coming over to help setup tv on wall and run what ever cabels, but he mentioned that i would need speakers so that i could get some sound, but buddy at electionic store said i didnt. Problem is i dont have the cash right now to buy any speakers, was hoping to setup tv and a reciever for now and when i got the cash then pickup some nice speakers.

I hope i can set it up as is, i know sound wont be that great, but for now its all i can do, If not then, i guess i will have to keep the 790 in the box and tv on the stand until i get some cash for speakers.

Thanks
post #1483 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yes. Unless a setting is causing problems, it's generally always better to leave it in the default setting. In fact, the Denon setup becomes much easier when more default connection settings are used.

So you have Auto Sync on for HDMI Audio?
post #1484 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonghitter View Post


Do i need any speakers to set this baby up? Can i just use the sound from my 50 inch panny?

No you don't and yes you can. With an HDMI cable connected from the 789 to the Panny, change the HDMI Audio Out setting on the 789 from "Amp" to "TV".

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrady3324 View Post

So you have Auto Sync on for HDMI Audio?

Yes.
post #1485 of 9287
In Audyssey Auto Setup if my speaker setup (front L&R, center, sub, surround L&R - 5.1 I think) = ZONE2, What is the Normal setting for? I should use Zone2, right?
Thanks in advance.
post #1486 of 9287
The "NORMAL" setting is for a 7.1 main zone setup which in addition to the side surround speakers you would also have 2 more "rear" surround speakers. If you've just got a 5.1 setup as you indicate, then using the default setting of Zone 2 is correct.
post #1487 of 9287
I always come to this forum for answers but can't seem to find it this time, so I guess I'll ask my own.

Details:
TV-Samsung 61" LED DLP 1080p
Receiver- Denon AVR1910
Cable Box - Exlporer 8300HD
Playstation 3

Problem: No audio or video in other sources not HDMI 1 from the reciever

So I recently bought the new Denon AVR1910, had everything hooked up thru HDMI and it was working perfectly. Just recently I wasn't able to get audio or video on my cable box though. I decided to hook up the cable box straight to the tv without the receiver and it would work fine. I figured it was the receiver so I returned it to get a brand new one. I hooked everything up the same way I originally had done and the cable box wouldn't work again. Straight to the tv, it would though. I decided to then replace the cable box but same thing. I replaced the receiver again, same thing. I replaced the cable box again, same thing.

Now this is the weird thing. If I hook up the cable box thru HDMI 1 to my receiver, it works. If I have the playstation hooked up thru HDMI 2, the playstation doesn't work. If I switch it and have the playstation hooked up thru HDMI 1 it works but then the cable box doesn't work thru HDMI 2. If I hook up either of them seprately straight to the tv, both work.

Now when I have the playstation hooked in HDMI 1, and the cable box thru HDMI 2 and I change the source on the TV to the cable source, I see on the tv, "copy protection, DVI/HDMI output is blocked, press exit to cancel." Then I get the DVI alert, HDCP connection no good, pleae use the PyRb, basically telling me to unplug the HDMI and use the components. So I try that, I hook the components to the receiver and have the receiver still going to the tv by HDMI. I get audio and video but the video doesn't look good, as in the screen is almost all green.

I have called all 3 companies they just go in a circle telling me it's the others persons fault. I have gone through 3 denon recievers and now 3 cable boxes, bought new HDMI cable, all the same result. I called the TV and they said it cant be the tv since it works when its hooked up straight to the tv.

Can anyone help me?
post #1488 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by gqlurie View Post

I always come to this forum for answers but can't seem to find it this time, so I guess I'll ask my own.

Details:
TV-Samsung 61" LED DLP 1080p
Receiver- Denon AVR1910
Cable Box - Exlporer 8300HD
Playstation 3

Problem: No audio or video in other sources not HDMI 1 from the reciever

So I recently bought the new Denon AVR1910, had everything hooked up thru HDMI and it was working perfectly. Just recently I wasn't able to get audio or video on my cable box though. I decided to hook up the cable box straight to the tv without the receiver and it would work fine. I figured it was the receiver so I returned it to get a brand new one. I hooked everything up the same way I originally had done and the cable box wouldn't work again. Straight to the tv, it would though. I decided to then replace the cable box but same thing. I replaced the receiver again, same thing. I replaced the cable box again, same thing.

Now this is the weird thing. If I hook up the cable box thru HDMI 1 to my receiver, it works. If I have the playstation hooked up thru HDMI 2, the playstation doesn't work. If I switch it and have the playstation hooked up thru HDMI 1 it works but then the cable box doesn't work thru HDMI 2. If I hook up either of them seprately straight to the tv, both work.

Now when I have the playstation hooked in HDMI 1, and the cable box thru HDMI 2 and I change the source on the TV to the cable source, I see on the tv, "copy protection, DVI/HDMI output is blocked, press exit to cancel." Then I get the DVI alert, HDCP connection no good, pleae use the PyRb, basically telling me to unplug the HDMI and use the components. So I try that, I hook the components to the receiver and have the receiver still going to the tv by HDMI. I get audio and video but the video doesn't look good, as in the screen is almost all green.

I have called all 3 companies they just go in a circle telling me it's the others persons fault. I have gone through 3 denon recievers and now 3 cable boxes, bought new HDMI cable, all the same result. I called the TV and they said it cant be the tv since it works when its hooked up straight to the tv.

Can anyone help me?

Please ignore, I can't believe this was all that needed to happen but I went in to the Input selector and just changed everything that wasn't HDMI to none and it worked. I can't believe I have gone through all this and that's all that needed to be done. Still dont understand how it worked to begin with and now it doesn't since I didn't change anything
post #1489 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by gqlurie View Post

Please ignore, I can't believe this was all that needed to happen but I went in to the Input selector and just changed everything that wasn't HDMI to none and it worked. I can't believe I have gone through all this and that's all that needed to be done. Still dont understand how it worked to begin with and now it doesn't since I didn't change anything

Hi gq. Congrats on figuring it out and having the balls..er...fortitude to post so others may benefit from your experience. From this point forward, please obtain a permission slip from batpig, jd or JohnAV before returning a Denon. So there's quite a few perfectly good open box units at your local store?
post #1490 of 9287
still doesn't make sense but they're probably are. The first one I had worked fine from the start, never messed with any of the settings. Suddenly stops working, so the second brand new one doesnt work out of the box and I thought it was fishy that I would get 2 defaulty units. Not sure why I had to adjust something with the inputs on the third one but it's working and I'm happy. From now on though, I will be coming here first!
post #1491 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

From this point forward, please obtain a permission slip from batpig, jd or JohnAV before returning a Denon.

Got that right ... considering he ignored BP's guidance of "it's either the source or the settings" as well as my guidance of "before returning it Reset the Microprocessor".
post #1492 of 9287
I'm potentially in the market for a new receiver, and like many of you on this board, have contemplated the Pioneer 1019, Onkyo 607 and the Denon 1910 (and am leaning toward the Denon).

My question is this.. I have an old Denon AVR 3200 receiver that is still working great. Back in the day, the 3200 retailed for $1200. Although the technology is 8-10 years old, how do you think the 3200 would compare to the 1910. I don't want to "downgrade" by buying a newer model.

While all the newer inputs and HDMI would be nice on the 1910, I'm getting by with the web of wires behind my TV and my Harmony remote making it simple.

My big issue is will the sound be better with the 1910.

Thank you.
post #1493 of 9287
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Originally Posted by bill5150 View Post

I'm potentially in the market for a new receiver, and like many of you on this board, have contemplated the Pioneer 1019, Onkyo 607 and the Denon 1910 (and am leaning toward the Denon). My question is this. I have an old Denon AVR 3200 receiver that is still working great. Back in the day, the 3200 retailed for $1200. Although the technology is 8-10 years old, how do you think the 3200 would compare to the 1910. I don't want to "downgrade" by buying a newer model.My big issue is will the sound be better with the 1910.Thank you.

Hi Bill. Here's a few questions that might help us advise you more specifically. Are you running 5.1, do you want to, and what are your speakers? How big is your room & how is it acoustically? What kind of music/listening (HT, critical 2ch, etc.) do you do?
post #1494 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Got that right ... considering he ignored BP's guidance of "it's either the source or the settings" as well as my guidance of "before returning it Reset the Microprocessor".

I did do a reset on the microprocessor. What fixed it was me going into the input settings and changing the input of HDMI 2. I turned everything else off and that seemed to fix it.

I didn't ignore anyone, I tried rather hard to find out how to fix it. I spoke with best buy, called denon, called comcast, called samsung returned the box. If you call that ignoring then be my guest.

Still doesn't make sense that one hour I'm watching tv and then the next everything changed. Whatever though, I'm over it now that it's fixed
post #1495 of 9287
Just giving you a hard time because you went through all those replacements BEFORE messing around with the settings, although good to hear you at least did the microprocessor reset as that will often solve most problems that are not specifically setting related.

I am curious though as to what exactly you mean by "changing the HDMI 2 Input settings"? According to the Owner's Manual, the factory default settings for the HDP source should be that Input Assign (HDMI) is set to HDMI 2 and everything else is set to NONE. What were your settings after the microprocessor reset that you changed back NONE?
post #1496 of 9287
This may have been asked before in this thread but does the 1910 handle 24p conversion?

I know that the AVR-2310CI specifically says it does, but I dont see where the 1910 does. Can anyone help clear this up?

Thanks
post #1497 of 9287
Wondering if you guys can help me out..

BD Player: Samsung 1590 (same as 1600) set to Audiophile
Receiver: Denon 1910

So I'm playing Chris Botti live in Boston and John Mayer, where the light is. I can get the TrueHD light to come on, but only in SOME of the chapters.

The first few chapters of Chris Botti (when on TrueHD multi ch) are silent...if I go to LPCM, then I get sound. If I skip a few chapters, then TrueHD works.

Is this a setup problem?

Thanks!
post #1498 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by martylavender View Post

This may have been asked before in this thread but does the 1910 handle 24p conversion?

I know that the AVR-2310CI specifically says it does, but I dont see where the 1910 does. Can anyone help clear this up?

Thanks

Can you be more specific what you mean by 24p conversion?
As far as I know it's like this:
Passing through 1080p/24 from source to tv? Yes.
Converting other framerates/resulotions/signal formats to 1080p/24 over HDMI? No. But I don't think the 2310 can do that either.
Converting other resulotions/signal formats to 1080p/50 or 1080p/60 over HDMI? Yes.
post #1499 of 9287
Hi everyone just bought then 1910 but am having a little difficulty

I have my xbox 360 connected up via component to my 1910 then AVR to Panasonic PH9 via component, sound is via optical.

I know the screen should blank out when I press the menu button then I should get the white on black OSD but for some reason I dont any ideas?

I'm not really worried about the OSD but it would make the inital setup that bit easier when calibrating rather then using the front panel
post #1500 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

Hi Bill. Here's a few questions that might help us advise you more specifically. Are you running 5.1, do you want to, and what are your speakers? How big is your room & how is it acoustically? What kind of music/listening (HT, critical 2ch, etc.) do you do?

Thanks for the follow up. I have Infinity TSS 1100 speakers system w/subwoofer in a 5.1 configuration. My room is 14 x 28. My listening is 60% standard HDTV programming, 20% XBox 360, 10% DVDs and 10% Music. My music is mostly rock (80s to current), and I normally listen in Denon's 5 channel stereo mode on the AVR 3200.

Thank you!
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