*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1910/790 Owner's Thread - Page 52

I've said this many times but it obviously needs repeating:

it DOES NOT MATTER what model number you use in the Harmony database. All Denon receivers use the same set of IR codes.

Do not spend any time worrying about the Harmony database, it doesn't matter if Harmony doesn't have the "AVR 1910" in its database, they all use the same IR codes so you can use any model number. ANY Harmony remote is compatible with ANY Denon receiver!!

I specifically recommend starting with "AVR 2309CI" or "AVR 3808CI" if you want a more expansive set of commands, or else just have Harmony tech support copy the "AVR 3808CI" device profile from my user profile "batpigworld" (see the link in my sig) if you want the "master user" control

If you want to keep it simple, just use the "AVR 2309CI" device profile and teach the remote the "MultEQ", "DynamicEQ", and "Dynamic Volume" buttons from your factory remote.

no need to apologize

it was more like a "public service announcement"

make sure the mic is pushed all the way into the socket.

once you verify that, and you still get the error, try a microprocessor reset.

if you still get the error.... you probably have a bad mic. this should be replaced under warranty or you may be able to swap it at a local Best Buy.

no, it means they have a different marketing department. do you REALLY think a $399msrp receiver that weighs 19lbs can put out 120 watts on seven channels?

receiver ratings specs are borderline useless as there is no regulated standard for measuring this stuff. the Denon almost certainly has more REAL power under an all-channels-driven load.

For example, Pio VSX-918 (claimed 120Wx5) on the test bench:
http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/...ec/index2.html

All five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 34.1 watts
1 percent distortion at 36.7 watts


The Yamaha RX-V463 (claimed 105Wx5):
http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/...ec/index2.html

Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 32.6 watts
1% distortion at 37.3 watts

The old "if it sounds too good to be true..." applies here. In most cases, an entry-level receiver is going to have an entry-level amp section. It's safer to assume that receivers with similar msrp's have similar amp sections than to read the specs.

the "HUGE SOUND" feeling you are describing is not created by the receiver, it's mostly going to be produced by a combination of your speakers and room acoustics. A PA in a good club or concert venue is using gigantic, extremely efficient horn-loaded speakers powered by professional amps pumping out several hundred watts of power.

You can't take a pair of moderately efficient speakers that don't handle a ton of power, and think that swapping from, say, an Onkyo to a Denon is going to turn them into a HUGE sounding setup like a professional PA. 50W vs 70W or whatever isn't going to make a difference; as JD notes above even if you DOUBLE the power you are only gaining 3dB of headroom.

Now, that being said, you don't actually NEED that much power in a typical living room as you aren't talking about nearly as much volume. The good news is you own Klipsch speakers, which are incredibly efficient (your KM-6's have a sensitivity of 98dB with 1 watt @ 1 meter) and can probably be pumping out 100dB+ with about 10 watts of power at a typical listening distance (e.g. 3m away).

So, short story, power is not the issue with your setup. A standard stereo receiver (like your current Sherwood) has more than enough power to drive them to ear-splitting volumes, just like any standard mid-range AVR like the Denon 1910. So, if you are currently experiencing the "HUGE" sound you want with your stereo receiver, you will still get it with the Denon (which can probably put out a clean 100W/ch+ in stereo mode).

The reason you have a recessed mid-range is your speakers have two 10" woofers and then a single 1" tweeter, there is no driver that is going to be smooth and competent with the midrange there. Also, Klipsch's tend to have a very "bright" sound as it is, and if your room is "live" (e.g. bright acoustics, lots of reflections) it will make the treble sound even more overbearing relative to the midrange. In this sense, Audyssey WILL help because the entire purpose is to equalize your room/speaker acoustics for a flatter response.



first off, all processing (EQ, bass management, etc) in a modern receiver is going to be digital, period. Not just Denon.

Second... Audyssey does NOT allow any tweaking of the EQ bands. You have two choices for EQ using Audyssey -- the "Audyssey" reference curve (flat with a tapered roll-off on the high end) or the "Flat" curve (flat all the way up). There is a separate manual EQ option which is a simple, 9-band graphic EQ (non parametric). Audyssey's EQ filters are a completely different thing and are not related at all to parametric EQ or any other traditional EQ system.

If you are a tweaker who wants to diddle around with a parametric EQ and like to have a bunch of different EQ "curves" memorized for various types of content, you may want to look at the Pioneer AVR's. The MCACC system on Pioneer is based on parametric EQ (unlike Audyssey) and you can tweak the EQ yourself and save multiple different EQ presets that you design yourself. Audyssey, on the other hand, is a "black box" system where you set-it-and-forget-it.