*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1910/790 Owner's Thread - Page 7

no, as mentioned in post #1 there is no HDMI overlay of OSD. that is one of the step-up features of the 2310CI/890 model with full GUI support.

This is also very clearly explained on pg 9 of the manual. The video processor can only do overlay if the source is s-video / composite. There is no overlay over HDMI / component sources.

This is ALSO clearly explained in my FAQ, Question number TWO
http://batpigworld.com/fadq.html

please note a couple of things:

1. on the internet, people are going to post when they have questions/issues, so complaints will always be a disproportionately represented on any forum; spend some time researching plasmas or LCD's in the display forums and you will soon become paranoid that there is no such thing as a trouble-free display...

2. the only "issues" so far have been with cable/sat boxes and associated HDMI "handshake" bugs, which will happen with ANY receiver and are not the fault of Denon.


notice that there haven't been any broken units, weird sparklies, video processing failures, etc. the Denon units are very reliable and actually DON'T have any issues to speak of.

if you read ANY receiver owner's thread, especially Denon threads which are generally trouble free, you will find that 95% of "issues" fall into two categories: (1) HDMI handshake with the cable box, and (2) simple operator confusion over how the unit works.

For example, through 8,000 posts of the 1909/789 owner's thread I don't think there was one single issue that could be described as a "bug" or "problem" with the unit. Just a littany of mostly confused owners or occasional HDMI "handshake" problems.

I do like that they specifically indicate in the manual that, with certain menus (Auto Setup / Manual Setup / Option Setup), you only really need to go in there ONCE when you set it up (pg 18), and that once your receiver is set up properly the only thing you have to worry about is the PARAMETERS menu and changing surround modes.

Also some good visual illustrations. They've improved their illustrations for surround sound layouts and where you should position speakers. And they've added simple visual instruction for things which are often confusing; for example, they clearly diagram a proper "bi-amp" connection on pg 12.

It also looks like they've made an effort to improve some of the wording, but it still has plenty of goofy denon-ese.

Bob, it's really not THAT hard. Most of the setting can be left at their defaults. As JD says, for a simple (2-3 devices) setup you shouldn't even need to change any input assignments. Otherwise, just follow my setup guide and you should be fine.

It's pretty much a few simple steps:

1. hook up all the speakers
2. hook up your devices; with a simple setup, no need to reassign and you can just use the "name" labels on the back, but you should still write down where you plugged everything in (e.g. HDMI-1 for "DVD", etc.) just in case.
3. run Auto-Setup

that's it! If you aren't going to sit there tweaking all the little options deep in the setup menu's you should be ready to go

the only thing that's a little tricky is making sure you don't get any "overlap" with the input assignments. For example, HDMI-1 is set to "DVD" by default, but so is Component-1. So if you hook up the Blu-Ray to HDMI-1, and you hook up the Wii with component cables to Component-1, but don't do anything else, they will BOTH be "assigned" to the "DVD" input name.

But, the key thing to understand is that you are free to reassign these inputs to whatever "name" you want. So you don't need to physically rearrange the cabling, all you need to do is reassign "Component-1" to some other name and use that for the Wii. With the Wii, you need a pair of analog audio inputs (red/white), so make sure to use one of the "names" which have RCA inputs (DVD, SAT/CBL, VCR, or DVR).

For your setup, this is what I recommend:

1. Blu-Ray plugs into HDMI-1, leave it as the "DVD" input (you can rename to "BLU RAY" if you so choose)

2. Xbox 360 plugs into HDMI-2 (assuming it's an HDMI xbox), leave it as the "HDP" input (again, just rename it to "XBOX 360")

3. Cable box plugs into HDMI-3, just leave it as "SAT/CBL".

4. Wii plugs into component video #1, but you must reassign that to either "VCR" or "DVR" (because DVD and SAT/CBL have already been used). see pg 32-33 of the manual. then rename it to say "Wii".

Whichever one you choose for the Wii, plug in the red/white audio cables into the corresponding red/white RCA input jacks for either "DVR" or "VCR" (remember that these "old school" composite inputs are NOT assignable, so you have to match up the name to whatever you assign... if you decide the Wii will be on the "DVR" input you need to plug in the audio cables into the ones that say "DVR")

that should do it!