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post #241 of 9287
Yes, again this was in reference to where

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

cost is the overriding factor

or in my case where I am not about to pay for another full blown cable package in a second home.

For me HDNet was in the extra-pay-tier so I dropped the whole tier. On the TWC threads many others have done the same.
post #242 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

DirecTV offers their new "The 101 HD channel Concert Series" with live concerts from all around the country every day of the week! The payback for putting more money into the speakers rather than the AVR just keeps getting better and better! Not to mention, soon there will be over 200 HD channels available!

That's right, jd, I'd left out D*. That sounds very good indeed (no pun intended). Hurray for private, free market competition. And your point about also matching spending on speakers appropriately to the AVR value is invaluable for newb lurker/shoppers.


Gary, I hear ya'.
post #243 of 9287
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Yes, again this was in reference to where cost is an overriding factor ...

And my comments are directed to those of us where paying a little more for better audio and video quality from a significantly larger number of channels is worth it ..........
post #244 of 9287
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Originally Posted by frankmar View Post

Yup, you got it there.

Good to know. Thanks. In some cases this is a very subjective decision given there are different factors involved, however, it's definitely worth displaying the video from different configurations to determine which is the best from your own perspective in your own environment. In doing some research on the ABT1030 chip, apparently it is especially designed to upscale SD 480i content to 1080p.
post #245 of 9287
I just got the 1910 and also a Mitsubishi 52246. Even with the dennon scaler on it is showing on the TV that I am recieving the resolution of my cable box. Basically different for each type of channel. With the scaler on should it not be showing 1080p in at all times?
post #246 of 9287
if i want the denon to scale, would it be best to scale from 720p or from 1080i
post #247 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jfisco View Post

I just got the 1910 and also a Mitsubishi 52246. Even with the dennon scaler on it is showing on the TV that I am recieving the resolution of my cable box. Basically different for each type of channel. With the scaler on should it not be showing 1080p in at all times?

The i/p scaler default setting is ANALOG. If you are using an HDMI cable from your cable box to the Denon, you need to set it to ANALOG and HDMI.

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Originally Posted by Asb-123 View Post

if i want the denon to scale, would it be best to scale from 720p or from 1080i

This is the kind of question that is better answered simply by trying both out and see which you prefer.
post #248 of 9287
I have it set to Analog/HDMI. This is my first adventure with HDMI, because of the handshaking would I have to power down the TV and/or Denon everytime I make a video change like this? I am currently away from home I will try some things when I get back.
post #249 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post



This is the kind of question that is better answered simply by trying both out and see which you prefer.


what should i be looking for? Will the diference be easy to see?
post #250 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jfisco View Post

I have it set to Analog/HDMI. This is my first adventure with HDMI, because of the handshaking would I have to power down the TV and/or Denon everytime I make a video change like this? I am currently away from home I will try some things when I get back.

Not really sure what you mean by "make a video change like this". Like what? Changing channels? If you have the Denon i/p scaler set to "Analog and HDMI" and the Denon resolution set to AUTO, then all cable box native resolutions coming into the Denon should be upscaled and output to the TV as 1080p.

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what should i be looking for? Will the diference be easy to see?

A better looking picture ....

Most likely you won't notice any difference.
post #251 of 9287
I apologize for my description in my earlier post. What I meant was everytime I change a video setting in the denon AVR. And I found out that yes, these changes do not take effect untill I power down and turn everything back on.
post #252 of 9287
yeah i prob wont notice the differnce. Is one easier for the reciever to scale?
post #253 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jfisco View Post

I apologize for my description in my earlier post. What I meant was everytime I change a video setting in the denon AVR. And I found out that yes, these changes do not take effect untill I power down and turn everything back on.

The default HDMI resolution setting is AUTO. Just leave it there and you should be good to go. There's no reason to change to other settings.
post #254 of 9287
Thread Starter 
JD brings up a very good point -- as I mention in my FAQ, the Denon comes set BY DEFAULT to scale everything to HDMI output and automatically output at the highest resolution your TV accepts. There isn't much reason to change the defaults unless you have a specific goal (e.g. testing scaling btwn TV vs AVR).

The only exception is that HDMI>HDMI scaling is off by default. But the resolution setting for sure should be left on AUTO so your TV is getting the highest rez signal it can accept; there is ZERO point to doing "double scaling" and having the AVR scale to, say, 720p, and then have the TV scale to 1080p.
post #255 of 9287
When I did the setup, I only did it once where I sit.

the seating area when watching the tv is set like "L" shape

3 seating on "I"
2 seating on "_" from this area I am facint the tv and actually do the the main watching.

Question do I do the Mult EQ from each sitting that is 5 setups or just once . tia
post #256 of 9287
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Originally Posted by frankmar View Post

When I did the setup, I only did it once where I sit.

the seating area when watching the tv is set like "L" shape

3 seating on "I"
2 seating on "_" from this area I am facint the tv and actually do the the main watching.

Question do I do the Mult EQ from each sitting that is 5 setups or just once . tia



Great Question
post #257 of 9287
All they're all answered right here.
post #258 of 9287
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

All they're all answered right here.


Thanks Gary
post #259 of 9287
Rec'd my 1910 on Friday. Had a busy weekend and only had a few hours to work on installing it, but I am very impressed so far. I am replacing a Denon 982. I was very impressed with Audyssey. I ran the setup and kept the defaults and definitely noticed a difference compared to my manual setup on the 982. Could of just been me, but it also seemed like the sound was crisper than the old Denon.

I have a 52" LG LCD. Previously I had been running my comcast cable directly to the tv as the 982 couldn't handle the HDMI inputs. There was a definite upgrade in the quality of the SD channels after running them through the 1910. I haven't looked at the details of the LG, but if it did to processing, the chip in the Denon is far superior, as the difference was more than slightly noticeable.

Setup has been very easy so far (using batpig's website for help). I would definitely recommend it to any people on the fence.
post #260 of 9287
Can someone PM me where they got their 1910 and at what price? I am only seeing them for $550 right now.

Also, If I can get the 2309 for about $50 more then the 1910 listing... is it worth it? 1910 has everything I need, just setting up 5.1, cable, blu ray, wii right now, but could add to in the near future.

Thanks in advance...
post #261 of 9287
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Originally Posted by bouda View Post

Can someone PM me where they got their 1910 and at what price? I am only seeing them for $550 right now.

Also, If I can get the 2309 for about $50 more then the 1910 listing... is it worth it? 1910 has everything I need, just setting up 5.1, cable, blu ray, wii right now, but could add to in the near future.

Thanks in advance...

Me too, but good luck. The best I can find right now is at Amazon where the 790 (essentially the same as the 1910) is just shy of $500. I'm thinking about it, but may hold off on it some more because the price is bound to come done once more. I'm surprised that the 1909 does not appear to be discounted at all from most places. Its about the same or more in some cases than the 1910.
post #262 of 9287
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Originally Posted by bbig119 View Post

Me too, but good luck. The best I can find right now is at Amazon where the 790 (essentially the same as the 1910) is just shy of $500. I'm thinking about it, but may hold off on it some more because the price is bound to come done once more. I'm surprised that the 1909 does not appear to be discounted at all from most places. Its about the same or more in some cases than the 1910.

Here for $408 and from an authorized dealer according to the description: http://www.us-appliance.com/avr790.h...oductid=avr790
post #263 of 9287
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Here for $408 and from an authorized dealer according to the description: http://www.us-appliance.com/avr790.h...oductid=avr790

That does seem like a good deal, and they are only charging $10 for shipping.
post #264 of 9287
As indicated on both their site and Denon's site, they are indeed an authorized dealer and they have the 790 in stock. I asked about the 36 month warranty listed as Denon's is 24 months. They were apparently provided incorrect information and will update their website to indicate 24 months. Regardless, it is the Denon warranty they are speaking about.
post #265 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

As indicated on both their site and Denon's site, they are indeed an authorized dealer and they have the 790 in stock. I asked about the 36 month warranty listed as Denon's is 24 months. They were apparently provided incorrect information and will update their website to indicate 24 months. Regardless, it is the Denon warranty they are speaking about.

I just pulled the trigger on this ($408 shipped). The differences between the 790 and the 1910 were just too small to make even a $40 difference as people said they could get the 1910 for about $450 shipped. Hopefully I don't regret my decision.
post #266 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

As indicated on both their site and Denon's site, they are indeed an authorized dealer and they have the 790 in stock. I asked about the 36 month warranty listed as Denon's is 24 months. They were apparently provided incorrect information and will update their website to indicate 24 months. Regardless, it is the Denon warranty they are speaking about.

It's been verified by Denon that it is still a 24 month manufacturer warranty.
post #267 of 9287
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Originally Posted by bp_ View Post

Here for $408 and from an authorized dealer according to the description: http://www.us-appliance.com/avr790.h...oductid=avr790

I just went through with this deal yesterday. I was considering getting a 1909, but I wasn't having any luck finding one /cheaper/ than this price for the 790 at Us Appliance. Apparently they really are an authorized Denon dealer.

I hope that this was a good price is enough to keep Gary from yelling at me for buying it.

I'm going to pair it with a 400 dollar 5.1 Energy C-50 surround system, plus two additional C-50s to produce a 500 dollar Energy C-50 7.1 surround system. The speakers are an okay size, and won't dominate my humble middle class suburban living room. Also, The Wife firmly said that I could only buy speakers /once/ in the next five to ten years. Seemed like a good fit for my budget, which was originally going to go towards an Onkyo 7100 home theater in a box. To the Audiophiles: I'm sorry that I couldn't match this 400 dollar reciever with 4000 dollar speakers. ... Tongue in cheek, please don't hunt me down and garrote me.

This has the features I want: 7.1, runs cooler than the Onkyo sets, auto speaker set up, Dolby Headphones, etc.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll be back later with impressions once I've set it up.
post #268 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

As indicated on both their site and Denon's site, they are indeed an authorized dealer and they have the 790 in stock. I asked about the 36 month warranty listed as Denon's is 24 months. They were apparently provided incorrect information and will update their website to indicate 24 months. Regardless, it is the Denon warranty they are speaking about.

That is what I was hoping. I pulled the trigger on this deal. Can't wait to get it.
post #269 of 9287
Where on Denon's site are they listed as authorized - I can not find it. Looks like I will get charged tax since I am in Indiana (dealbreaker)... Only thing I like better in the 1910 is the a/b speaker switching (is this so if you have another set of speakers in a different room, you can select "b" and only those will play sound???) ... I actually like the way the 790 looks better - without the dip in the front under the lcd.
post #270 of 9287
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Originally Posted by bouda View Post

Where on Denon's site are they listed as authorized - I can not find it. Looks like I will get charged tax since I am in Indiana (dealbreaker)... Only thing I like better in the 1910 is the a/b speaker switching (is this so if you have another set of speakers in a different room, you can select "b" and only those will play sound???) ... I actually like the way the 790 looks better - without the dip in the front under the lcd.

From the seller's website:
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US Appliance is a division of ABC Warehouse and an authorized Denon dealer.
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