*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1910/790 Owner's Thread - Page 139

You sure it's not just hiding behind #2?

Btw .. as you've got to return it, you might also want to find out the procedure of returning it for warranty work as well, especially if you want to get the firmware update installed. Generally, Overstock is most likely in just a replace mode I would imagine, rather than returning it to Denon.

That's what I thought I read somewhere that 7.1ch was not all that.

"except for the risk of your wife (yelling at you) about the two new speakers dangling off the wall"

I think I will save that for when a Blu ray player appears in my set HT

Newest firmware version?

I just received my new AVR-790 from overstock today and the main firmware version is 00.89; is this the current one and any known problems?

I'm coming from a Harman Kardon with all kinds of problems so looking to see if any issues with this.

Thanks

i just got my 790 from Overstock a couple days ago.....not sure of the firmware it's currently running however i can say that I have not had a single problem with it and have been testing it in every capacity I can since getting it.......I was coming from an older Yamaha RX-V1000 and I can't believe the difference in sound. Everything from simple TV to my iPod, everything is better.....I've fallen in love my my system all over again!

Just got AVR1910 today from 6ave and the thing is brand spanking new! I don't even have stand to put it on or speaker stands to put up the speakers, so it will have to wait until i get that stuff. My Sony N460 bluray player is on the way too.

I did a quick test with speakers on the floor and was surprised that i had to go up-to around -30db to get decent sound from my klipsch reference series (efficiency/sensitivity: 94db surrounds and 97db center). I didn't do the Audesy setup, since i just wanted to make sure the thing is actually powers up and plays something...

It's just numbers but reference -30 is not a bad starting spot. I bet you find. after set up, -20 to -30 will be pretty normal.

ZRon

The latest version we know that still has the bitstream problems is Main Ver #87. As yet no one has reported back what the Main Ver # is after the current firmware update has been installed. If you don't have problems bitstreaming the HD audio from a Blu-Ray then it's likely you won't need the update.

You can check the current firmware version using the procedure listed in the 2310 link in my sig.

That's actually not that bad at all, as you'll find others with less efficient speakers having to go closer to -15. Also, when you run AUTO SETUP and your speakers are EQ'd for a reference volume of 75db at 0 on the volume dial, you'll find that the Denon will set your speaker volumes in the (-) range to compensate because they are so efficient. Feel free to raise the volume on any individual speaker to suit your own preference if you want them louder.

anyone?
don't tell me that none of the regular posters listen two music in stereo.
its important for me, so some feedback would be great before i pull the trigger on this unit.
thanks again.

1+ Agree. On my 1910 -30 is my typical setting for cable tv. Watching BluRay movies is -15. Rock concerts may creap up to -10 or -5, especially after the second or third frosty beverage.

I followed the excellent setup guides by Batpig and advice from Bill, jdsmoothie, jdmi, racerguy, and others on this forum. I set the Infinity TSS750SUB subwoofer on LFE, phase to zero, RCA pre-out to left RCA input on the subwoofer, subwoofer crossover and 'volume' knobs at 12 o'clock, and then ran Audyssey at all 6 listening positions using a tripod...drum roll, please....perfect! This procedure resulted in accurate bass from the subwoofer with PLENTY of intensity. All 5 speakers are balanced and clear. Audyssey and the 1910 are great, and Batpig is brilliant!

Now, I AM impressed and happy with this inexpensive subwoofer and the performance of my pieced-together bedroom system: I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules with this information - B&W 705 fronts/FS700 stands ($675) from AudioGon, KEF iQ2C center ($150) from OneCall, Infinity TSS750SUB subwoofer ($99) from eBay/Harmanaudio, Boston Acoustics CR57 surrounds ($75) from AudioGon, Panasonic 42S1 plasma HDTV ($675) from Sears, Denon 1910 ($372) open box from 6ave, Direct TV, Panasonic DMP BD55 bluray player ($300) from BB.

I will donate to Batpig.

I've been having some strange volume problems with my AVR-790. I've read through the thread and I've seen there were other people that may have a similar problem, I saw one replacement fixed, where another was not fixed by replacement. Essentially, the volume will spontaneously jump waaay down, not as displayed, but in actual output, i.e., -30 will all of sudden sound as loud as -55 (seriously that low). It only happens when switched into my PS3 (which never had this problem on my older Denon or when hooked right into the TV via HDMI) and it seems to happen when the audio switches from one mode to another, eg. stereo to DTS. Strangely, by muting/unmuting the volume is restored to a normal level.

Audssey is not turned on when this happens. Any thought?

The primary reason for selecting this particular AVR should be for the Audyssey MultEQ EQ filtering. If this issue doesn't occur when it's ON, then set it ON. Otherwise, have you reset the microprocessor (p. 64)? If it still occurs after the reset, then your best bet is to have it replaced if you run with Audyssey OFF.

I had the 789 for a listen, the 989 and now the 2809. Stereo mode on all these units is great. I usually run my Polk towers/sub as 2.1, xover=80, DynEQ ON.

+1, This was my first Denon and my first Audyssey receiver, and it works so well that I don't know that I would buy anything without the technology at this point. I played with the Pioneer version, and while it was OK, I didn't think it was anywhere near as good as Audyssey.

If you care to elaborate, I would like to hear more specifics as we have heard very few reports from folks who have used both the Audyssey and MCACC Room EQ systems in their HT.

No surround speakers here, only stereo. One of the pleasures of moving to a receiver with Audyssey MultEQ is listening to all the music collection again. So I was happy with stereo in the 790, and then SoundofMind persuaded me to try MultEQ XT in the 989.

I'm pretty sure that I read all the 139 pages of this forum and some others, but I really didn't find the detail answer to what I'm looking for. So, if I miss the info already posted, I apologize. I just bought this receiver and my main purpose was to be able to watch movies downloaded on my PC... so, my question is, what's the best way to connect my PC to the receiver to get a quality video/sound... The way I've it working now is I connect my laptop to TV via VGA and the sound is transferred from the Audio out (headphone icon on laptop) to a different receiver... the whole purpose of me buying this receiver was with the hope that I'll have better sound, which is not happening now with the way it's connected or with the system/setting that I've... thanks for any help.

So, the question is:
Is the right solution to buy a video card with HDMI and connect it to the receiver, which will pass both audio/video to TV? Or, I just need to buy a sound card which will be connected to the receiver? I don't see any SPDIF connection on this receiver, is that correct? Thank u again.

An HDMI video card would be your best bet, although it depends on whether the card can process or bitstream HD Audio codecs. Connecting that to the AVR would allow you to upscale the video to 1080p as well as play the best audio format available. Otherwise, there are also both Coax digital and optical jacks that you could also connect the card to (although the best audio you'd get is DD/DTS 5.1).

Although I did not try it while I owned the 790, my laptop came with an S/PDIF S-video to coax audio/analog-video/svideo adapter. So I connect my S/PDIF S-Video laptop output via the adapter to a coax digital audio input on my 989.

I am new to the forum. I have an issue with my AVR going into protection mode. I have Klipsh speakers 8ohm 500 amp and LG Blue Ray BD390, and some other components that do not matter. Samsung Plasma 1080P tv. I used Audessey to set things up from a tripod. I only have 5 speakers plus sub-woofer. I followed instructions carefully. The sound for Tuner (TV via optical cable) and Blue Ray are phenomenal but once I get sound to +15db any loud sound will throw it into protection mode. That is loud but not so loud I cannot speak with someone. I would think I could go louder. Not that I need to but now I am scared to turn up the volume for fear of frying something. Speaker wires are not touching.

I am just wondering if I set something wrong. But I called Denon and they did not really ask me too much. They said just do not turn it too loud. Any thoughts? Firmware Main is 00.81

Are you using the Volume Display mode "relative" (-80 to +18) or "absolute" (0 to 99)? If the default of relative, then it's no wonder the AVR is going in to protection mode!

It is relative and I mis spoke. It shuts down at -15 not +15. LOL

When it goes in to Protection Mode, is the red ring around the power button flashing every 1/2 sec (touching wires/amp failure) or every 2 seconds (AVR too hot)?

0.5 sec.

I'd double check (again) every speaker post connection to make sure any wires aren't touching at the AVR as well as at the speakers themselves (you could have missed one). If that's confirmed not the issue, then you may have a defective AVR.

Which model Klipsch speakers? What did Audyssey calculate for the trims and distances? Where did you set the crossover for the fronts/center?

I will double check them. I just finished my basement and ran wires through the ceiling prior to hanging the sheet rock. I hope I didn't run a nail through a wire. As it is setup now, if I dissconnect each speaker one at a time to troubleshoot would that mess anything up as far as the configurations?

Nope. Although my money's on a speaker wire issue.