*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1910/790 Owner's Thread - Page 199

... as well as HDMI upscaling to 1080p too.



If you haven't done so already, you'll want to review the 1st post in this thread to learn more about your new 1910's.

This is referring to Dyn EQ taking the standard film mixing level of 85db as it's reference level and applying it's corrections accordingly whenever the volume is below reference level (volume level of 81) when Dyn EQ is enabled. In addition to setting the max volume limit to either 61, 71, or 81, you can also set the Dyn EQ Reference Level Offset (p. 47) to either -10 or -15 which will likely resolve your concerns.

Thank you jdsmoothie, tried resetting my HR-21 D* box, no luck. It is still not seeing DD. I just want to confirm. If I hook up the box to the 1910 by HDMI, and if the box is outputting DD, then the 1910 should recognize this automatically, and hitting STD should not cause it to go into PL or Neo6. Correct? Are there any settings in the 1910 that should effect this? I know I'm asking a lot, but if someone could please give me a flow of any settings in the 1910 that might effect this, I would greatly appreciate it. Dan

dan -

The STANDARD surround mode setting will either display Dolby Digital when a DD 5.1 signal is received or DD PLII when a PCM 2.0 or DD 2.0 signal is received so for now leave it on PLII. If you reset the DirecTV box then try also resetting the 1910 (p. 64) as well. You also might want to try connecting to the other HDMI jacks to see if you get the same results.

Dan, if the box is sending Dolby Digital and the AVR was not recognizing it, then you would have no sound at all.

With a little work, one can figure out how to interpret the surround mode charts, pages 59-60 in the AVR-790 manual so they are probably near there in the 1910 manual. If by hitting STD you are seeing PL and Neo6 choices, then the box must be sending PCM (2ch) or Dolby (2ch), or the AVR is processing an Analog signal. Of these three, one can determine which by looking at the 4 lights at the lower left side of the front panel display: PCM, DIG, AAC, ANA.

(I'm assuming here that you are using speakers attached to the AVR and not using the TV audio. If you are passing audio through the AVR over HDMI to the set, the box should choose to send only what the set will accept.)

Try optical connection.

Thanks again. I did try other HDMI inputs on the 1910. Same result. When I get home from work, I'll try resetting and see if that helps.

How do you know that the denon sounds better then the onkyo or any other AVR for that matter, "after much research" does that just mean googling the the hell out of something. You need to have it set up in you home to really know what sounds and works best. Its a safe bet any of these units will sound ok and WOW many at first.

After using Audyssey yesterday, I found that it has done an overall good job and I am happy with what it set up.

I have one issue though, and that is while playing movies, the actor voices are really low compared to the explosions and so forth. I put in "2012" on bluray and had to crank it to hear the voices and then put it down during action sequences. Watching TV, this isn't nearly the issue and it is less of problem but still sorta there.

Watching the News and other non-action programming is just fine.

help!?

bluewhite -

With TV and movies especially, try setting the Dyn EQ Reference Level Offset to either 10 or 15 which should help bring out the dialog. Also, if your center speaker is not pointing directly at the primary position's "ear" height, then adjust it as necessary (pulling it forward as well if stuck inside a stereo cabinet) and rerun AUTO SETUP. After that you also have the option of using the CH LVL button on the remote to increase the center channel audio as required.

#1 Check the disc players / cable box and AVR audio setting and change to full range / no compression , all of them as the AVR many thoughout the menu.
#2 There is a volume limiter setting in the AVRs menu, besure it set to OFF, as this may clamp dynamic range.
#3 It could be bass phase cancellations, the louder the stronger the cancellations. This will test for it, but you will need to tweak for best overall sound.
Let the sub do the heavy bass work only. Use small for all speakers set at 150hz or higher and LFE only and set that at 150hz or higher. The lower end will only come from the sub, little to none from the other speakes, so there is no way there will be any bass phase cancellations.
At this point if more info is needed just ask

Where do I find the dyn EQ reference level offset? I am sooo green at this.

My center speaker is a Piece of $hit, but no money to buy a new one right now after the new denon/bluray/TV all at once.

When I get home tonight I'll try all of the above, provided i can figure out how to set the dynamic EQ refernce level.

Dyn EQ Reference Level Offset - p. 47 Owners Manual

thankyou for all of the tips!

Hey, webslinger. First let me welcome you to the thread as a new Denon owner. Next let me apologize for the rude response you got from googlegod. Most folks, you and me included, are thrilled when replacing an older unit with one of these very capable new AVR's. To me, Audyssey and DynEQ are simply amazing technology. Enjoy.

+1

As Jar Jar would say ... "How rude!"

Problem: No video output when connecting my xbox360(components) to denon avr 790.

I have one hdmi cable into the hdtv and i read that this receiver can output all types of inputs(components, S-video, etc) and outputs through the one hdmi cable.

from batpig:
[** NEW! ** The new '10 models appear to have removed the 1080p component restriction (at least on the AVR 1910/790 and higher). With one of the new models you should be able to hook up your old Xbox 360 via component video and output 1080p with no issues. ****]

I have the xbox360 connecting to the component slot 2 (DVR)
I set the assign menu for DVR H=none, D=none and C=2RCA

I turn it to source DVR but still no video, am I doing something wrong?

Hi Chiunit98, did you switch over to HDTV from TV mode on the A/V cable?
On the end of the A/V cable that connects to the Xbox 360, there is a switch that you'll need to click over from TV to HDTV.

1910 ordered.

Thank you to all who helped me understand the wild world of receivers.

peace,
RLS

He never said anything about it sounding better than Onkyo or any other AVR. He said he was wowed by the Denon which is a perfectly valid observation. He said he researched other brands, but that doesn't mean he can't say "WOW" to the one he decided on.

I'm not sure what your problem is here, but the next negative or false post I see from you I'm going to report to the mods (the yellow exclamation point). I recommend others do this as well...

John

He-he. Thanks, John, I was looking all over for that damned "reoprt post" thing. Never used it. Mine is a red triangle BTW. I usually try to patiently nudge this sort of poster into being better forum citizens, but I have just about given up on him.

Yes it is on hdtv setting, if i hooked up to comp1 (dvd) even tho i'm using the hdmi1 (dvd) will it still work. looks like i might have to reset the receiver and try again?

Did they lose the input/output signal indicators from the front panel display on this model ?

Hey guys, I just got into a 3.1 setup, and I'm having trouble hearing speech. i've run the audyssey setup, have audyssey on, dyn vol on, dyn eq on, etc. I went ahead and upped the center channel volume a few DB, but it didnt seem to help much. I also seem to be experiencing really loud action scenes followed by quiet dialog, which I thought DynVol was supposed to be taking care of.

It doesn't work. He has been reported numerous times but the mods just don't seem to care.

Try turning off Cinema EQ and bump the Dynamic Eq to 10db.

The front panel still shows the surround mode, the input audio signal indicators that show analog/digital/pcm, and the decoder indicators that tell whether some HD mode is selected. And the status information, if requested, gives details about what is being input. But if you are thinking of the graphical representation of which speaker channels are present in the input and which are being used for output, seen on the xx09 models, yes, those have been removed. I see those on my AVR-989, but they were not present on my AVR-790.

Hmm... lets go back to basic connection and settings.

Double check cable connections - looking at the Component jacks: green, blue, red (Y, Pb/Cb, Pr/Cr).
Also double check that you are using the red video and not the red audio cable.

With both units On, try flipping the AV cable switch to TV and then back the HDTV.
Or connect Xbox directly to TV, change Xbox display setting to 720p or 1080i and then reconnect to Denon.

If using DVD Input then assign - HDMI and Digital to NONE and set COMP to 1
Or if using DVR Input then assign - HDMI and Digital to NONE and set COMP to 2

I just discussed this issue a few posts back (#5950 and #5953). Please review and report back whether the adjustments help. Also, Dyn Vol has three settings (Midnight, Evening, Day). The default is Midnight, however, you might want to check if it has been changed.

For last year's line, only the 2310/890 and higher now include those indicators.