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Originally Posted by matbl View Post

Do you know which ABT chip is in the 1910? And is it considered better than the Faroudja chip in the 1909?

I can't be certain, but looking at the Denon website info/manual for the 2010 and the Anchor Bay Technologies website, it might be the ABT 1030. This is not based on any specific mention of the ABT 1030 in the Denon 1910, but my conclusion based on what I've read.

Anyone else have info? Maybe Batpig knows.
post #62 of 9287
6ave.com now has 1910's in stock. They are doing the "name that price". I offered them $439.20 (Electronics Expo price). They declined and counter offered at $481. Haven't decided what to do yet.
post #63 of 9287
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Originally Posted by ikaden View Post

So if I feed the 1610 a 1080i/720 component signal from the xbox 360 will it convert to a 1080i/720p HDMI signal? Batpig do you know? Thanks!

correct. it cross-converts but does no scaling at all. the only thing it can do is 480i>p deinterlace.


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Originally Posted by hillguy2002 View Post

I can't be certain, but looking at the Denon website info/manual for the 2010 and the Anchor Bay Technologies website, it might be the ABT 1030. This is not based on any specific mention of the ABT 1030 in the Denon 1910, but my conclusion based on what I've read.

Anyone else have info? Maybe Batpig knows.

I have also heard it was the ABT-1030, but I am probably getting that from the same info you are. It was mentioned in the 2010 Denon model rumor thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1122905
post #64 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

correct. it cross-converts but does no scaling at all. the only thing it can do is 480i>p deinterlace.

Thanks batpig! I just need it to cross-convert (transcode?) the signal from analog to digital. I'll let the TV take care of scaling.
post #65 of 9287
Hey All..

I really thank batbig for his suggestions. I was planning to upgrade receiver on Jan 09. I was looking at sub $400 thread. We were not having much receivers(future proof) that time.But as per his suggestion i bought Denon 1507 receiver($115 shipped) and mirage nanosat speakers... I was really enjoying the set up. Now i saved some money i really looking for new receiver (sub 800)...I believe this is very good time to buy a receiver as we have lot of choices..with full HDMI(Swicher & Repeater). But i have a question as i am living in apartment for another 2-3 years i will be using satellite speakers only. Is it worth buying Denon 2809 or 3808 or Onkyo 706,806 receivers which have more power...???
post #66 of 9287
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Originally Posted by BobMN55446 View Post

6ave.com now has 1910's in stock. They are doing the "name that price". I offered them $439.20 (Electronics Expo price). They declined and counter offered at $481. Haven't decided what to do yet.


FYI - Counter offered back at $460. They accepted. Shipping is free. I should have it by the weekend.

Off to Batpig's website to learn how to set it up.
post #67 of 9287
I just noticed that Electronics-Expo says that they have the 1910 in stock now. Even though I have a refurb HK-254, I couldn't resist with the coupon code for EE. We'll see when it actually ships though.
post #68 of 9287
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Originally Posted by manizkrishnan View Post

But i have a question as i am living in apartment for another 2-3 years i will be using satellite speakers only. Is it worth buying Denon 2809 or 3808 or Onkyo 706,806 receivers which have more power...???

honestly, running a Mirage Nanosat setup in a small apartment all of those more expensive options would definitely be overkill. overkill can be fun of course,but that's up to you and your wallet to decide if it's worth it

in general, I would recommend against basing a CE purchase decision on what you expect your needs will be in 2-3 years. technology is moving so fast in AVR's that who knows what will be available in your budget range if/when you do move? if you decide in 3 years to get a 3808CI for your new, bigger room, you will be able to get it for $500-600 on the used market, or you might decide that the "next new thing" feature (Audyssey DSX?) in the newest models is attractive to you.

that being said, Audyssey is always a nice upgrade so if you are itching to step up the system I would look into spending $300 on the new 590/1610 model, which will be comparable in terms of power to your current 1507 but add some cool new features (especially HDMI audio, and Audyssey Dynamic EQ + Volume, which really enhance the listening experience at moderate volumes). If you want the ability to use 7.1 or need the extra features, go with the 1910/790 model but I wouldn't spend more than $400 personally for a 5.1 satellite setup in a small apartment. You could sell the 1507 for $100 to recoup some cost.

Then, in the meantime, if you really want to upgrade the sound, upgrade the SPEAKERS. for example, adding a pair of the larger Omnisats up front and moving the four nanos to surround duty and going 7.1... just a thought...
post #69 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

honestly, running a Mirage Nanosat setup in a small apartment all of those more expensive options would definitely be overkill. overkill can be fun of course,but that's up to you and your wallet to decide if it's worth it

in general, I would recommend against basing a CE purchase decision on what you expect your needs will be in 2-3 years. technology is moving so fast in AVR's that who knows what will be available in your budget range if/when you do move? if you decide in 3 years to get a 3808CI for your new, bigger room, you will be able to get it for $500-600 on the used market, or you might decide that the "next new thing" feature (Audyssey DSX?) in the newest models is attractive to you.

that being said, Audyssey is always a nice upgrade so if you are itching to step up the system I would look into spending $300 on the new 590/1610 model, which will be comparable in terms of power to your current 1507 but add some cool new features (especially HDMI audio, and Audyssey Dynamic EQ + Volume, which really enhance the listening experience at moderate volumes). If you want the ability to use 7.1 or need the extra features, go with the 1910/790 model but I wouldn't spend more than $400 personally for a 5.1 satellite setup in a small apartment. You could sell the 1507 for $100 to recoup some cost.

Then, in the meantime, if you really want to upgrade the sound, upgrade the SPEAKERS. for example, adding a pair of the larger Omnisats up front and moving the four nanos to surround duty and going 7.1... just a thought...

Hmmm thanks again...yes you are correct. i really liked Denon 1610 model and its prize $300 . but they dont have multi channel analog i/p. So won't able to play SACD in DSD format...But i will save more money and buy good Amp,speakers and bluray player.

I really wanted to upgrade my speakers...what i did was bought a pair of paradigm Atom V6 and NAD 325BEE amp with Marantz VC6001 DVD changer.....i am really enjoying the stereo(2.0) set up...in future i may buy paradigm or psb bookselfs and SVS/Hsu sub (3.1)....i will have a complete 5.1 set up...
post #70 of 9287
Thread Starter 
if you get the right BDP -- for example the new Oppo is a wonderful "universal" player -- it can decode DSD and output your SACD's as hi-rez multichannel PCM over HDMI, which the 1610 will accept. The advantage to this arrangement is that you can use Audyssey features + digital bass management in the receiver, whereas with multich analog inputs there is no processing at all. Something else to consider...
post #71 of 9287
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Originally Posted by manizkrishnan View Post

Hmmm thanks again...yes you are correct. i really liked Denon 1610 model and its prize $300 . but they dont have multi channel analog i/p. So won't able to play SACD in DSD format...But i will save more money and buy good Amp,speakers and bluray player.

I really wanted to upgrade my speakers...what i did was bought a pair of paradigm Atom V6 and NAD 325BEE amp with Marantz VC6001 DVD changer.....i am really enjoying the stereo(2.0) set up...in future i may buy paradigm or psb bookselfs and SVS/Hsu sub (3.1)....i will have a complete 5.1 set up...

If you can't talk about it in the forum can you PM where you can get the 1610 for $300? Are you talking about using Electronics Expo?
post #72 of 9287
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Originally Posted by ktm137 View Post

I just noticed that Electronics-Expo says that they have the 1910 in stock now. Even though I have a refurb HK-254, I couldn't resist with the coupon code for EE. We'll see when it actually ships though.

I chatted this morning with a guy at EE and he said that the 1910 was backordered even though the site said it was instock, and would ship in about 7 days. But he would honor the 439 + SH price through today (the RECEIVERSALE coupon code was not working at the checkout page).

Submitted a "Name your own price" at 6ave.com for $460 and it was declined. Decided to chat online with a sales rep and ended up with an offer of $450 (shipping included). Pulled the trigger on that one.. item is instock and ready to be shipped.

Looking foward to my new receiver!
post #73 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

if you get the right BDP -- for example the new Oppo is a wonderful "universal" player -- it can decode DSD and output your SACD's as hi-rez multichannel PCM over HDMI, which the 1610 will accept. The advantage to this arrangement is that you can use Audyssey features + digital bass management in the receiver, whereas with multich analog inputs there is no processing at all. Something else to consider...


Batpig

Do you like the Denon 1910 over the txsr607?? if so why? i'm sooooo on the fence on this one.

Thanks John
post #74 of 9287
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Originally Posted by ikaden View Post

If you can't talk about it in the forum can you PM where you can get the 1610 for $300? Are you talking about using Electronics Expo?

yes. but i have $50 coupon for purchasing speakers and older receiver (Denon 1507)...
post #75 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

if you get the right BDP -- for example the new Oppo is a wonderful "universal" player -- it can decode DSD and output your SACD's as hi-rez multichannel PCM over HDMI, which the 1610 will accept. The advantage to this arrangement is that you can use Audyssey features + digital bass management in the receiver, whereas with multich analog inputs there is no processing at all. Something else to consider...

yes..Oppo BDP looks very nice...added to gotta have list
Still waiting for getting some reviews about Analog upconversion of 1610 and 1910...and pass through features..
post #76 of 9287
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by john7000 View Post

Do you like the Denon 1910 over the txsr607?? if so why? i'm sooooo on the fence on this one.

I try not to make brand recommendations, as each of Pio, Yammy, Onkyo, Denon, Marantz, etc. makes a nice product and it's just about finding the one that meets your budget and feature needs. I have gravitated towards Denon because I love their features, sound quality, and reliability, but there are many many happy Onkyo owners also.

I think the Denon has a big advantage with full MultEQ and it "should" be better with video processing (the reviews of the 607 show Onkyo is still behind the curve on their lower end models). The Denon's are also generally rock solid in terms of reliability (you never hear of issues with "sparkles" or other random HDMI bugs) and I have an enclosed A/V cabinet so I am a little concerned about Onkyo's higher running temps. The Onkyo offers a lot of HDMI inputs and other features though, for a lower "street" price...
post #77 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jhatten99 View Post

I chatted this morning with a guy at EE and he said that the 1910 was backordered even though the site said it was instock, and would ship in about 7 days. But he would honor the 439 + SH price through today (the RECEIVERSALE coupon code was not working at the checkout page).

Submitted a "Name your own price" at 6ave.com for $460 and it was declined. Decided to chat online with a sales rep and ended up with an offer of $450 (shipping included). Pulled the trigger on that one.. item is instock and ready to be shipped.

Looking foward to my new receiver!

I just tried it and the code still works. I am waiting to call back since I am in the process of moving but I was told the $440 price would be honored for a couple weeks. It used to be listed with free shipping so I hope that still gets included. I guess it depends who you talk to.
post #78 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I have also heard it was the ABT-1030, but I am probably getting that from the same info you are. It was mentioned in the 2010 Denon model rumor thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1122905


Amazon mentions the ABT 1030 in the product discription.
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR1910-.../dp/B002AKKFPI

Electronic House also links the ABT1030 with the Denon 1910
http://www.electronichouse.com/artic...ers_docks/C175
post #79 of 9287
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Originally Posted by bp_ View Post

I just tried it and the code still works. I am waiting to call back since I am in the process of moving but I was told the $440 price would be honored for a couple weeks. It used to be listed with free shipping so I hope that still gets included. I guess it depends who you talk to.

My order from yesterday included the free shipping. I'm bummed that it will be another week, but I'll just be patient. They were sticklers about shipping addresses - I had to call my CC company to add my work address to it.
post #80 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I try not to make brand recommendations, as each of Pio, Yammy, Onkyo, Denon, Marantz, etc. makes a nice product and it's just about finding the one that meets your budget and feature needs. I have gravitated towards Denon because I love their features, sound quality, and reliability, but there are many many happy Onkyo owners also.

I think the Denon has a big advantage with full MultEQ and it "should" be better with video processing (the reviews of the 607 show Onkyo is still behind the curve on their lower end models). The Denon's are also generally rock solid in terms of reliability (you never hear of issues with "sparkles" or other random HDMI bugs) and I have an enclosed A/V cabinet so I am a little concerned about Onkyo's higher running temps. The Onkyo offers a lot of HDMI inputs and other features though, for a lower "street" price...


Thanks Batpig!


I have a 303 onkyo that i'm happy with,its the reasones you mentioned that i'm going to go to Denon for a better avr for my new tv.


Thanks again Bud John
post #81 of 9287
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Originally Posted by ktm137 View Post

My order from yesterday included the free shipping. I'm bummed that it will be another week, but I'll just be patient. They were sticklers about shipping addresses - I had to call my CC company to add my work address to it.

I also had to call my CC company to add my work address. Now I just have to wait for it to show up.
post #82 of 9287
Picked up my 1910 today, paid 549. 00 can plus tax.
Why so cheap, he's the store manager and he really sharpened his pencil. The other choice I had was to pick up the 1909 for 509.00 can But for 40.00 elected to go with the 1910.
Now waiting my hdmi 12ft long wires from Monoprice.

Now I need to sell my Harman Kardon avr55

I plan to send cable signal, ps3, and older dvd to 1910 and output to my Pan hdtv.

all will be controlled by the Harmony one.

Question I thought this receiver had 2 remote one IR and the rf

Am I missing something. Need to read more.
post #83 of 9287
Just one IR remote, with additional buttons on the back of the remote.
post #84 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Just one IR remote, with additional buttons on the back of the remote.

So I cannot put the receiverON from my bedroom and switch fm stations.
post #85 of 9287
What happended to bat pig website. tia
post #86 of 9287
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by frankmar View Post

So I cannot put the receiverON from my bedroom and switch fm stations.

The 1909 came with a little Zone 2 remote but it was also IR.

RF is not supported on these receivers, if you want to use RF you need an external RF solution that can then plug into the remote control "room to room" port on the back of the unit. You can also use a wired IR solution and plug into the same port, but of course then you have to run the wire from bedroom to the AVR.

Quote:


What happended to bat pig website. tia

works fine here. perhaps blocked by the Canadian government?
post #87 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The 1909 came with a little Zone 2 remote but it was also IR.

RF is not supported on these receivers, if you want to use RF you need an external RF solution that can then plug into the remote control "room to room" port on the back of the unit. You can also use a wired IR solution and plug into the same port, but of course then you have to run the wire from bedroom to the AVR.



works fine here. perhaps blocked by the Canadian government?


It worked for me! Thanks again Bat
post #88 of 9287
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Originally Posted by frankmar View Post

So I cannot put the receiverON from my bedroom and switch fm stations.

There are several IR Extender options available includingthis one that will allow you use your remote in the bedroom. If you've got a TV in the bedroom, then a Harmony or other universal remote would be a good choice as it could be programmed to control the 1910 as well from the bedroom.
post #89 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The 1909 came with a little Zone 2 remote but it was also IR.

RF is not supported on these receivers, if you want to use RF you need an external RF solution that can then plug into the remote control "room to room" port on the back of the unit. You can also use a wired IR solution and plug into the same port, but of course then you have to run the wire from bedroom to the AVR.



works fine here. perhaps blocked by the Canadian government?


Bat pig, the other day I was fine, now I get

Oups page not found and this

Sorry but the page you are looking for cannot be found.

We know, we know, you were just looking for information and you think now that this is a conspiracy towards you.

Really, that's not true. Not at all. There are a lot of people looking for information that cannot find it. So it's not you. Really!

Heck, we may not even know you but want to be sure you get the help you need. (Nice of us huh?) So please try using
this super special, some say magical, search box below.

Google Search AVS:

OR...


Other things to try:
Search www.avsforum.com:


and I an not living in China, or Iran or N. Korea
post #90 of 9287
My 1910 from Electronic Expo for $439.20 has a tracking number and is set to arrive on Tuesday. Why would you pay more if you know you can get it for this price? I was going to get a 1909, but considering I couldn't find a 1909 for less I pulled the trigger on a 1910. I would have ordered from eCost a long time ago but they have been out of stock for a long time.

The 1910 will replace a Nakamichi AV8. The center channel was starting to die.

56" Samsung 1080P DLP
HTPC
Wii
Boston Acoustics
Mains HD8s
Center 424v
Surrounds HD5s
Klipsch 10" Subwoofer

I will post comments once I have it set up.
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