Originally Posted by jdsmoothie
With your front 3 speakers set to LARGE, unless you also have the sub set to LFE+MAIN, then the sub isn't getting anything from those speakers, rather only the 0.1 LFE signal in movies and crossover from any other speakers set to SMALL.
Yes, I have LPF+MAIN, with LPF set to maximum of 120... assuming that this will send all LPF information (the 0.1 track) to the sub, plus direct normal 5-CH bass tones below the xover freq (here 60Hz) to the sub as well as the mains. I also assume that *NO* LPF material is sent to the mains.
Originally Posted by googlegod
Like I said, its tricky, if you set your LPF to max to fill in the above 80hz range, you run the risk of boomy over powering low end. Its just a gross mismatch between subs and mains...
By "LPF to max" you mean the LPF cutoff on the Denon? I have that set to 120, assuming it only affects the 0.1 material and would not affect music. No problem with boominess since I recently moved up to a higher quality sub. But I also seem to have lost the low frequency but not-quite-bass material.
I think a lot of people are having this problem, I know I did, I takes alot of tweaking. I found that turning my LPF to the lowest and than running auto setup worked best.
I'm sorry, but what do you mean by setting LPF to lowest and for what purpose? Are you referring to the xover on the sub itself? I assume that any setting in the Denon is subject to change by running the Audyssey setup.
A 180 of that most we tell you to do. but thats ok for most, but if that doesn't work for you, than you need to try something else. Its just a gross mismatching of speakers and subs, blending them seamlessly together is a artform like no other
Actually that's what I think I'm trying to accomplish... getting the mains and sub to work together, rather than having one sharp point in the frequency range where duties are handed over from one to the other.
Auto set up will smooth it out, but if its way off it could just make it sound worse. This can happen when you mix brands and old with very old and new hardware.
Audyssey set all speakers to Large with xover at 40Hz, which I felt was too low. Plus I saw no sense in having surrounds and rears set to Large as they have long wire runs and probably receive little if any bass material.
The speakers are all fairly new, though are probably circa 2004 design (Polk Monitor 60 fronts, M50 surrounds, M40 rear). I know the Monitors are notoriously weak in the bass department, but seem to have a smooth and even bass response down to their roll-off point. Also I think the downfiring sub (Klipsch Sub-12, my newest addition) seems to do best with subsonic material - what you feel more than hear - and not very well with the lower end of musical instruments, such as the tympani and bass cello.
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