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post #8581 of 9206
nope I dont think it can read my mind, hope not anyway!!!!
Just trying to make sence of it all!!

Thanks for your time anyway!!
post #8582 of 9206
Thread Starter 
FYI - if you haven't yet click on the link below and check out my website, I try explain a lot of this stuff in "plain English"
post #8583 of 9206
Hi

I cant see the menu on my tv.
I can see it on the unit but my last denon 789 I could see the menu on the tv!
Everything is set to yes for text and everything else but still I just cant view it on the tv!

Anybody had this problem with this avr-790?

help!!
post #8584 of 9206
^^
Try resetting the microprocessor (p. 64).
post #8585 of 9206
did that no change!!
post #8586 of 9206
Is the 790 connected to the same TV using the same HDMI cable? Has the menu ever displayed or did this just start happening?
post #8587 of 9206
It did work with my other avr. But this one it wont work .
By the way I use component video cables.
post #8588 of 9206
Ah .. that's the reason then .. the 790 cannot display the OSD over component video.
post #8589 of 9206
Gentlemen,

I'm using my 790 in a 5.1 setup, with the main seating (couch) right up against the rear wall, where the surrounds are. I know that's not the ideal set up, but with a small room it's what I can do. My problem is that even after running through the Audyssey setup the rear speakers are somewhat overpowering the front speakers. Is there a way I can just manually adjust the balance between the front and rear speakers a bit so that the sound from the front speakers is a bit more prominent?

Everything I could find on this in Batpig's guide or the Audyssey seems to focus on balancing the sub, but that's not my issue - it's the balancing of the L/C/R speakers with the two rear surrounds that are right above my head when seated.

Any help is appreciated!
post #8590 of 9206
^^
Why not just use the CH Level button on the remote and lower the surrounds a few db?
post #8591 of 9206
Thread Starter 
is the problem with all sources or mostly cable TV? you could also try setting Dyn EQ Reference Level Offset to 10 or 15 as that will tone down how much Dyn EQ is boosting the surrounds.
post #8592 of 9206
I'm sure this is an easy adjustment for most. Not for us old farts used to 8 tracks!

Can you elaborate on how I get to that adjustment, as I seem to be having trouble finding it.

Sorry for the bother, but thanks for taking the time for a moron!
post #8593 of 9206
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

is the problem with all sources or mostly cable TV? you could also try setting Dyn EQ Reference Level Offset to 10 or 15 as that will tone down how much Dyn EQ is boosting the surrounds.

No, no cable TV at all - all DVD/BD or streaming Netflix. I just want to minimally adjust the rear surround volume vs. the fronts. JD probably had the right suggestion, but I haven't found how to adjust CH level.

Clueless, is what I am.
post #8594 of 9206
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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

... but I haven't found how to adjust CH level.

Clueless, is what I am.

Hi hanesian, maybe look at the remote and press "CH LEVEL" button just below the up and down "Volume" buttons.
post #8595 of 9206
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi hanesian, maybe look at the remote and press "CH LEVEL" button just below the up and down "Volume" buttons.

Thanks for the suggestion. Tried that already, but it seems to do nothing at all. How do I get into the menu setup that is referenced on page 50 of the manual? Obviously I must be missing something very easy here. Story of my life!
post #8596 of 9206
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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

Thanks for the suggestion. Tried that already, but it seems to do nothing at all. How do I get into the menu setup that is referenced on page 50 of the manual? Obviously I must be missing something very easy here. Story of my life!

When the "Ch Level" button is pressed, read it off the front display panel, each press would cycle to the next speaker (FL, C, FR, SR, SL, etc...). Use the round cursor < and > button to decrease or increase the db level.
post #8597 of 9206
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

When the "Ch Level" button is pressed, read it off the front display panel, each press would cycle to the next speaker (FL, C, FR, SR, SL, etc...). Use the round cursor < and > button to decrease or increase the db level.

Pressing the "Ch Level" on my remote has no discernible effect. It does nothing that I can see. The remote otherwise appears to work fine, and for good measure I replaced the remote batteries - no difference: the "Ch level" button does nothing.

Could I be doing something else wrong to cause this? Or can I make the same adjustment just using the AVR buttons instead of the remote?

Such a pain for what should be such a simple little thing!!

Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
post #8598 of 9206
Hi

Where are you looking when doing this?
You must look at thr recever and press the left and right buttons around the enter one.
That is after you push ch level!
post #8599 of 9206
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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

Pressing the "Ch Level" on my remote has no discernible effect. It does nothing that I can see. The remote otherwise appears to work fine, and for good measure I replaced the remote batteries - no difference: the "Ch level" button does nothing.

Could I be doing something else wrong to cause this? Or can I make the same adjustment just using the AVR buttons instead of the remote?

Such a pain for what should be such a simple little thing!!

Any suggestions greatly appreciated!

Hmm, at bottom of remote (Device Select) may sure that both selector switch are over to the left.
post #8600 of 9206
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hmm, at bottom of remote (Device Select) may sure that both selector switch are over to the left.

That did it - thanks for your help! Now I can access it!

Much appreciated!
post #8601 of 9206
Hi

I have been checking this for the 5.1 signal and other to see why some
use my sw and some dont!!

Here is 2 exemples: (using signal button on receiver)

1- dolby digital 48 Khz 3/2/.1 -4db tv guide show 5.1 programme
al speaker works as 5.1.

2- dolby digital 48 Khz 3/2/.1 -4db tv guide doesnt say 5.1 programme

So question, from the status both are identical signal, so why exemple #2
does not use sw speakers???

Very confusing!!

One more thing, what the "-4dc" mean?
post #8602 of 9206
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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

That did it - thanks for your help! Now I can access it!

Much appreciated!

Great, after adjustment you'll need to memorize it by pressing the Quick Select button down and holding it a few seconds.
post #8603 of 9206
Hello,

Looking to see if someone here has an answer to my question or a solution to my problem. I've seen loads of posts around this, but never has anyone ever posted the outcomes.

I have a 50ft-ish run of HDMI I need to do from my Denon 1910 to my Samsung 610. I bought the Monoprice HDMI over Cat6 wallplates as they told me they would work, when they didn't they told me to get new HDMI cables because mine weren't good enough. Still don't get anything from my Denon, but from my PS3 directly I can get 1080i. This isn't good enough for me.

Now, because I'm in Canada and we have a postal strike (*******s) I've paid $200 incl shipping that isn't going to work at all. I was also told by the monoprice tech support that there was NO WAY I would ever get 1080p video over that length from my Denon.

Does anyone know of a product that would work here? I've already spent a good amount, and don't really want to spend more. Would an HDMI powered extender like this: work? is there any salvaging this setup? I like it because of the backwards IR channel but I want it to work with the Denon.

I found this forum: _http://www.cepro.com/community/viewthread/430/ where some installation "pros" say this problem is pretty much unique to the 1910. Is there a setting where I can up the power output from HDMI?

Any help or suggestions on this would be appreciated.

Thanks.

edit: here's a link to a powered repeater (found a way around the 3 post thing) _http://www.hdtvsupply.com/hdmirepeater.html
post #8604 of 9206
^^
Trying to pass an HDMI signal beyond 25' from an AVR without using some kind of HDMI extender/booster can be iffy, although some have done it using the 50' HDMI cable from Monoprice (not specifically with the 1910). Have you tried setting the setting on the 1910 to OFF and just passing the signal through as is? Does the HDMI over Cat6 setup come with an extender? If yes, buying an additional HDMI extender may not resolve your issue. I would confer with the Monoprice techs on this. If you do purchase one it's worth buying from Monoprice as they will likely refund your purchase price if it does not work correctly for you.
post #8605 of 9206
The HDMI to cat6 converters I bought from monoprice are these _http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042501&p_id=8008&seq=1&format=2

Not sure what you mean by an extender? It's not powered, it just puts the HDMI over cat6 I guess?

I can't trust monoprice tech support. They keep giving me different answers everytime, and the final guy said I would never get 1080p over that distance (which by itself is false from what other people have accomplished)

Because I'm in canada I can't easily return stuff to monoprice as the shipping is usually astronomical compared to the price of the components (and we don't have postal service right now)

edit: missed your question about the I/P scaler...but no, I haven't tried turning that off. I'll try that tonight.
post #8606 of 9206
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Originally Posted by mobbe123 View Post

Hi

I have been checking this for the 5.1 signal and other to see why some
use my sw and some dont!!

Here is 2 exemples: (using signal button on receiver)

1- dolby digital 48 Khz 3/2/.1 -4db tv guide show 5.1 programme
al speaker works as 5.1.

2- dolby digital 48 Khz 3/2/.1 -4db tv guide doesnt say 5.1 programme

So question, from the status both are identical signal, so why exemple #2
does not use sw speakers???

Very confusing!!

One more thing, what the "-4dc" mean?

Sometimes, a TV station will broadcast a DD 5.1 signal but only send 2 CH stereo over that signal which is likely the case here. Also, the -4db listed is the "Dialog Normalization" value that is applied to Dolby Digital audio in the original audio track, so not something you can adjust. You may see the value pop up on your front panel display from time to time also.
post #8607 of 9206
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Originally Posted by StevReeves View Post

The HDMI to cat6 converters I bought from monoprice are these _http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042501&p_id=8008&seq=1&format=2

Not sure what you mean by an extender? It's not powered, it just puts the HDMI over cat6 I guess?

Couldn't get to the product using your link but am guessing you bought item #8008 which should indeed easily work over 50'. If the PS3 is only able to pass a 1080i signal, there does seem to be some signal degradation over the line which may be the result of using "unshielded" UTP CAT 5 cable. You can boost the signal by using this.
post #8608 of 9206
I thought it might be interference or signal degradation on my line, but I'm using cat 6a STP cables from Monoprice as well...I find it really odd that I can only get 1080i through this...and since I don't have a secondary HDMI source (my DVR won't work since it has HDCP) I can't validate that it's the hdmi-cat6 converters that are faulty...

Would that one work, or would I be better off with Monoprice PID: 7700 which is powered (but power supply not included)? does anyone know the difference? I've read about these powered extenders, but most people don't seem to use the power adapters...

I'm a little hesitant ordering yet more products as a tech there said this wouldn't help in my case and it's not cheap ordering this stuff for me to simply "try" it out unfortunately...

thanks for the advice though, I really do appreciate it...
post #8609 of 9206
^^
If that was the same tech who said it wouldn't pass 1080p, I'd be looking to chat with another tech for confirmation.
post #8610 of 9206
I think I figured out my problem...when I use my Rogers cable DVR I get a message saying that HDCP is not supported on my TV (it is though, so I assume the cables must not pass the HDCP signal back). I was just looking in my Denon manual now to see how to turn off the i/p scaller but I saw a little note under the HDMI section that said: "When a device that does not support HDCP is connected, video signals are not properly output"

And thus gives me a definitive answer that I will never get ANY output from my Denon 1910 through these cables. That sucks. oh well, I'm going to return them and try just a long HDMI cable...here's hoping!
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