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post #9001 of 9287
Thread Starter 
The 2112ci model is the current bang for the buck champ. Check out the initial posts of the xx12 model thread for details and conparisons. The 2112 will bring better audio fidelity than your 790 with the better version of Audyssey (XT).
post #9002 of 9287
My remote for my 1910 died. Red light won't shut off and no buttons work. No buttons appear stuck. Any options for replacement? Are there any newer and better designed Denon remotes that will work with my 1910? Otherwise I'll just replace it with the original equipment, but I've never loved the remote to begin with.
post #9003 of 9287
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Replace it with a Harmony remote (multiple models available depending on your budget and number of sources to control). You'll be able to download the Denon remote commands to the Harmony.
post #9004 of 9287
I'm not going to lose any functionality by going with say a Harmony One? For example turning on or off dynamic volume, adjusting channel levels etc? I do those two things often as I have a sleeping baby in the house most evenings.
post #9005 of 9287
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No. In fact you'll gain some functionality. Check out batpig's harmony file linked in his sig (see post above your original post). Also note, you can set up Quick Selects to have Dyn Vol ON and OFF.
post #9006 of 9287
I'm curious if there is a quick way to switch between a "Large" and "Small" configuration.
I often like to switch my (full range) speakers to Large for music listening, which I do by
going into the Speaker Config menu and changing fronts and rears to large. That way I
have the subs dedicated for a LFE track and allow the main woofs to handle bass notes.
(I leave the center at small as I figure there's probably not a lot of bass there anyway).
BTW I normally leave everything set to small and use 60Hz xover setting.

So I was just wondering if there was a quick way to go between my favored movie and music settings without changing the entire configuration, which I then must set back to its normal small settings for HT usage.
post #9007 of 9287
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If you want to listen in STEREO mode, then yes, as there are dedicated STEREO mode settings (p. 29). You could also try using a Quick Select, although I don't believe the LARGE/SMALL settings are saved.
post #9008 of 9287
Thanks for the reply, and I'm taking it as a "no" (just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something).
Stereo mode is good in some cases, but actually a lot of what I listen to now days is BD or SACD, which have dedicated tracks. I do sometimes use DIRECT to bypass Audyssey (at least I think that's what it does). But if I leave the mains crossed over to the sub it doesn't sound quite right... probably due to my sub placement being less than ideal. Full range sounds great though... I just have to remember to return the config to small before turning off the 790, else next time I watch a movie I'll forget about it.

BTW do any of the higher end Denon's perhaps have this feature?
post #9009 of 9287
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Nope. Although as I suggested, give a Quick Select a try.

Also note that DIRECT mode does indeed bypass Audyssey and any bass management so unless there is a dedicated .1 track there would be nothing going to the sub.
post #9010 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Also note that DIRECT mode does indeed bypass Audyssey and any bass management so unless there is a dedicated .1 track there would be nothing going to the sub.

Even if the mains are set to small? In that case, then a big "Thanks" - that's what I meant by
"overlooking something obvious" and may well be the best way to accomplish what I wanted.
post #9011 of 9287
Well my beloved AVR1910 goes into protect mode so now it's time to get something to replace it.

Any ideas anybody?


If I get the AVR1911 will the remote from the 1910 work with it?

Thanks,

Bill
post #9012 of 9287
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

Even if the mains are set to small? In that case, then a big "Thanks" - that's what I meant by
"overlooking something obvious" and may well be the best way to accomplish what I wanted.

as JD noted, you basically have two options if you want the speakers to be full range for stereo music:

option 1 - use the 2CH DIRECT/STEREO menu to configure the speakers as LARGE for 2ch modes. Set the mode to "custom" and configure how you want it for music; this will allow you to maintain audyssey for stereo music, when you are in any multichannel mode the speakers will be "small" and when you switch to stereo mode they will be "large"

option 2 - if you like to use full range for music without audyssey, just engage DIRECT or PURE DIRECT and boom, the speakers are "large".

BTW - a lot of this is covered in the audio section of my FAQ.

also, a neat trick is that you can use the 2CH DIRECT/STEREO menu along with the Direct/Stereo button on the remote to easily toggle between 2.1 (stereo + sub) and 2.0 (direct) for music.

in that menu, if you set speakers to SMALL, sub to YES, and sub mode to LFE, then set the crossover you want for 2.1 mode, it will play 2.1 (crossed over) in STEREO mode and 2.0 (full range, no sub) in DIRECT mode. So the D/St button on the remote will toggle between 2.1 and 2.0.
post #9013 of 9287
Thanks Batpig. Your setup guide was invaluable two years ago when I first bought the 790 - my first Denon - and allowed my to whiz thru setup and get everything up and running with minimal fuss. Consequently, I haven't really had to do a lot of research into the unit's inner workings, but instead have just done some tweaking based on what sounds good.

I have in fact used the stereo and direct modes frequently, especially when watching TV as some program material is too boomy with the sub enabled. Thank you for the insight into what's actually happening here.
post #9014 of 9287
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Originally Posted by kelleysislander View Post

Well my beloved AVR1910 goes into protect mode so now it's time to get something to replace it.

Any ideas anybody?


If I get the AVR1911 will the remote from the 1910 work with it?

Thanks,

Bill

Hey Bill,

I have a perfectly functional used (just under 2 years old) 1910 that I'm no longer using. PM me if you might be interested. Thanks.
post #9015 of 9287
Sorry if I missed it, I tried to read everything here...

Wife bought me a new Optoma HD33, 1080p, 3D Projector. It is HDMI 1.4

I have the Denon 790. I know its only HDMI 1.3

And I own several PS3's..

The question is,

Should i run a HDMI 1.4 from the PS3 to the amp and then another 1.4 to the projector?

Or Just run the 1.4 HDMI cord to the Projector, and just a Fiber Optic line to the avr?

Or, worst case scenario would be to buy another AVR?
post #9016 of 9287
Thread Starter 
The latter - the 790 cannot pass full 3D so run hdmi straight to the pj for 3D video and optical to the receiver for digital audio. You will need to reconfigure the ps3 audio settings so it know it's not sending audio over hdmi.

Updating to a new AVR would allow you to maintain the single hdmi connection for 3d video + hd audio.
post #9017 of 9287
Thanks Batpig...

Now the next question might seem a little stupid, but If I just run the audio from Fiber.. Am I losing anything sound wise, I'm not a audiophile, But is there any reason to upgrade my amp?

Would the 3D be any better or worse running it from a newer AVR?

Or its not that big of a deal and stick with what I got?
post #9018 of 9287
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Highly unlikely you would notice any difference in audio quality between the higher bitrate DD/DTS on BD's over fiber as compared to the HD audio over HDMI. Also, the only thing you gain connecting the 3D video through a newer XX13 model is seeing the GUI overlay, so unless that is important to you while playing a BD, stick with what you got.
post #9019 of 9287
Thank you both Batpig and jdsmoothie.

Saves me alot of cash, and alot of stress =)

Charles
post #9020 of 9287
Thread Starter 
you can think of optical (lossy formats) vs. HDMI (lossless) as akin to the difference as MP3 vs. the original CD or a lossless format (like FLAC). If you are enough of an "audiophile" that you make sure to listen to lossless formats and eschew MP3, then it may be worth it for you.... if you aren't, then don't worry about it and just enjoy the current setup
post #9021 of 9287
Any instructions on how to check/change the fuse on the 1910? Lightning strike hit near my house and now the 1910 will not power on. I have already ordered a 2312ci as a replacement and improved my surge protector, but thought it might be worthwhile to try to change the fuse if it was easy enough.
post #9022 of 9287
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Sure. Pop the top. Remove blown fuse. Insert good fuse.
post #9023 of 9287
Quote:
Originally Posted by EQDruid View Post

Sorry if I missed it, I tried to read everything here...

Wife bought me a new Optoma HD33, 1080p, 3D Projector. It is HDMI 1.4

I have the Denon 790. I know its only HDMI 1.3

And I own several PS3's..

The question is,

Should i run a HDMI 1.4 from the PS3 to the amp and then another 1.4 to the projector?





Or Just run the 1.4 HDMI cord to the Projector, and just a Fiber Optic line to the avr?

Or, worst case scenario would be to buy another AVR?

I am getting a 3D TV on Monday. I have a 1910 and a PS3. Would I need to follow this same set up as well, HDMI from PS3 to TV, then Optical from PS3 to 1910 for 3D playback? Does it matter if the HDMI is 1.3 or 1.4?

I would also like to thank Batpig for his work, I haven't been around this thread in a while because his guide was so useful a couple years ago I haven't needed any assistance since. Now that I have a 3D question about my AVR I knew where to go to find an answer.
post #9024 of 9287
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Yes, follow same setup ... PS3 (HDMI) ---> TV and PS3 (optical) ---> AVR. And no, doesn't matter whether you use a HDMI 1.3 or HDMI 1.4 cable as long as the cable is rated "High Speed" (ie. passes 1080p video).
post #9025 of 9287
Thanks jdsmoothie.
post #9026 of 9287
Anyone have success running MK LCR-750s (fronts, center) on this receiver? I just got this speakers and so far no issues at all. They are rated at 4 ohms. I'm considering upgrading my receiver, but in the end it might not be worth upgrading my receiver just yet considering I am in a 750 sq ft apartment and I don't push the volume level higher than -10.
post #9027 of 9287
Thread Starter 
the "proof is in the pudding" in cases like this. If you can comfortably reach the volumes you desire without the receiver overheating and shutting down then, by definition, you don't need a more powerful receiver.

you might want to give it a good workout (playing an action movie at your max comfortable "movie night" volume) and then feel if the receiver gets excessively hot. Chances are in a room that size you are probably fine.
post #9028 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

the "proof is in the pudding" in cases like this. If you can comfortably reach the volumes you desire without the receiver overheating and shutting down then, by definition, you don't need a more powerful receiver.
you might want to give it a good workout (playing an action movie at your max comfortable "movie night" volume) and then feel if the receiver gets excessively hot. Chances are in a room that size you are probably fine.

Yea that is my current plan. I think I will be okay with my current set-up. I do have MK M-4Ts as my rears and MK V-1250 sub as well. I got so caught up in the deal to get these speakers I totally forgot my receiver was not 4 ohm rated! I don't have any issues upgrading to a better receiver, I just don't want to do it until I absolutely have to
post #9029 of 9287
Thread Starter 
if you haven't yet, make sure your crossovers are at least 80Hz as that will ease the load on the amps a bit.
post #9030 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

if you haven't yet, make sure your crossovers are at least 80Hz as that will ease the load on the amps a bit.

Confirmed. I've always had it set at 80Hz
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