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Originally Posted by 864runner View Post

yes it did start flashing. the osd on the display is working. when i push menu on the display it brings up parameters, but nothing to the t.v. i just took it back to bb were i bought it and they exchanged it for a new one. the only thing i can think of is it was the hdmi output? when the t.v is hooked up to my cable box with the hdmi it works fine.


Mine just started doing this, no menu shows up on the TV, it looks like scratchy, jumpy words mostly on the left side of the TV. I tried different hdmi cables, tried resetting the microprocessor and blew air into the headphone jack.

I called Denon and he walked me through some steps, still no menu on the TV, only the display.

Any ideas on what I could try before taking it in to the service center, I am out of warranty, purchased December 2009.

Thanks
post #9092 of 9287
If you purchased with a credit card, check with your card provider as they add an additional year of warranty making it 3 years (Amex will do this for sure and some MC/Visa as well).
post #9093 of 9287
I just got my 1910 back from the service center from repairing blown hdmi board (under warranty smile.gif). I just hooked it up and I can't get the Setup Menu to appear properly on the TV (osd is working). It sounds similar to the issues above. It shows shows a blackish screen and the words from the setup menu are kind of scrolling vertically. I know the ports on the 1910 and the HDMI cable work b/c I am able to view Cable TV (hooked up through the 1910) without any problems. Could this be some I/P Scaler setting or something? It just seems really strange that Cable TV works fine. I tried other sources but same problem.

After doing some further investigation, it appears that any non-hdmi input source also displays black, fuzzy, scrolling screen. I can't even get the Tuner or volume to display.

I also tried resetting the microprocessor but that didn't help.

Thanks.
Edited by jking12 - 9/18/12 at 7:46pm
post #9094 of 9287
Sounds like a trip back to the service center mad.gif I was hoping that it was some setting that was changed somehow, after two resets I doubt it is an easy fix.

I am able to use the OSD to use the receiver, I think I am just going to live with it until it dies. This is my second Denon receiver that has given me problems, the first one I paid $900 for and this one much less. I still have a Kenwood from the mid 70s that works with no problems, my next receiver will not be a Denon.

Sorry for bashing Denon.
post #9095 of 9287
My wifes little dog pissed on the received and now my 790 will not stay on. When I power on the receiver the display shows the source for about 5 seconds and then the display goes away and the red light around the power button flashes quickly.

I checked the fuse on the inside of the unit and it is okay, so I am sure I have to replace a capacitor on the board to get the unit functional again.

Thank you,
post #9096 of 9287
Try resetting the microprocessor (p. 64 OM) and if still no joy, check Denon's website for an authorized repair center in your local area.
post #9097 of 9287
My sons are complaining about my needing to hear at higher volume while watching TV...yeah, I am hard of hearing, but can wear a headphone.

Question, do I need to run a separate headphone amplifier to listen to TV at higher volume while the speaker volume is at normal? I know the other issue is that if I connect directly to the AVR 1910 headphone jack, it will cut off speakers. So the other option is to run an analog output from 1910 to my headphone amplifier and then adjust the volume for myself.

Thanks for your advice.
post #9098 of 9287
For regular cable/sat viewing, and if you have Audyssey Dyn EQ enabled (which you should), first try changing the "Reference Level Offset" (p. 47 OM) to either 10db or 15db. You can also try just bumping up the center channel volume by a few db as well using the "CH LVL" button on the remote. Otherwise, if already doing that, either of the options you suggest would work or another option would be TV Ears which is what my dad uses.
post #9099 of 9287
Thanks for the suggestion...I might look further into ordering the TV Ears!
post #9100 of 9287
Long time question I really should have asked ages ago... I originally had an AVR 1909 which I loved especially for the dynamic volume and EQ feature. If your not familiar with this feature it keeps the dialog and explosions etc in line so even on those quirky movies you don't have to keep raising and lowering the volume.

Sadly my 1909 had some issue with the amp and broke, under warranty Denon replaced with an AVR 1910. I find the dynamic volume and EQ really ineffective on this model. Is it just me, or am I missing a new setting etc? My dynamic volume is at midnight, which should be the strongest right? But I still find plenty of movies where I have the need to adjust the volume up or down to match the scene.
Edited by ciner - 11/18/12 at 7:50pm
post #9101 of 9287
It's the same Dyn Volume as on the 1909. Try setting when at a master volume level you normally listen.
post #9102 of 9287
I've been doing some thinking lately...

My current setup is a 1910 with Monitor Series ii 40s, 30s, CS1 and a PA-120 sub. I just picked up a set of Monitor ii 60s.

I'm planning on running the 60s for the fronts and using the 40s for wides or front highs. My concern is that the 1910's power will be too low to drive these speakers. I'll probably be OK with it for awhile since the drivers have decent efficiency.

Looking to the future:

XPA2/5 and a UMC-1 processor to drive the same setup. Maybe upgrade speakers to the Polk RT series, or Definitive Tech's BP line down the road.

Any thoughts?
post #9103 of 9287
I've been running a 1910 for the past two and a half years and it has plenty of power for Monitor line speakers.
I had M60's for two years, then upgraded to M70's and finally into the RTI-A line just within the past year. The 1910 ran out of gas ONLY when I moved up to the largest Rti's, the RtaA9's, and have only recently upgraded to a 3312 with XPA-5, which by the way sounds terrific. But with Monitors your current AVR should continue to serve very well IMO.
post #9104 of 9287
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Originally Posted by tirefoamcan View Post

I've been doing some thinking lately...
My current setup is a 1910 with Monitor Series ii 40s, 30s, CS1 and a PA-120 sub. I just picked up a set of Monitor ii 60s.
I'm planning on running the 60s for the fronts and using the 40s for wides or front highs. My concern is that the 1910's power will be too low to drive these speakers. I'll probably be OK with it for awhile since the drivers have decent efficiency.
Looking to the future:
XPA2/5 and a UMC-1 processor to drive the same setup. Maybe upgrade speakers to the Polk RT series, or Definitive Tech's BP line down the road.
Any thoughts?

Well ... the 1910 doesn't support either Front Wides or connecting an external amp. You'd be looking for either the 3312CI or 3313CI to accomplish both.
post #9105 of 9287
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

I've been running a 1910 for the past two and a half years and it has plenty of power for Monitor line speakers.
I had M60's for two years, then upgraded to M70's and finally into the RTI-A line just within the past year. The 1910 ran out of gas ONLY when I moved up to the largest Rti's, the RtaA9's, and have only recently upgraded to a 3312 with XPA-5, which by the way sounds terrific. But with Monitors your current AVR should continue to serve very well IMO.

Thanks for this. I'll be finding out tonight how the 7.1 setup will sound. 7.1 is new to me, so I'll have some figuring out to do with Audyssey. From what I've read, I'll have to configure for PLIIx.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Well ... the 1910 doesn't support either Front Wides or connecting an external amp. You'd be looking for either the 3312CI or 3313CI to accomplish both.

I'm planning on setting up my 40's as front highs. I initially thought that the version of Audyssey on the 1910 could do wides, but I realize I'm wrong now. My basement isn't setup for rears, so I'm going to try front highs first.
post #9106 of 9287
AFAIK the 1910 does not support either high or wide. 7.1 adds rears only.
post #9107 of 9287
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

AFAIK the 1910 does not support either high or wide. 7.1 adds rears only.

It does - I have mine setup with front height speakers i.e. PLIIz smile.gif

post #9108 of 9287
Got the new speakers in today and did a quick install at lunch. After reading a bunch of Audyssey information on batpigs site, I made some appropriate changes to my settings - small speakers, 80hz x-over. Much better sound, even without a calibration.

I've got the 40s on top of the 60s for front highs. Need to make some more speaker cables to hook up the 40s. Testing movie will be Prometheus.

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post #9109 of 9287
Also review the Audyssey 101/FAQ linked in my sig as it is a cumulation of all questions asked in the Audyssey thread. You may also want to consider placing the FL speaker on a pedestal.
post #9110 of 9287
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

AFAIK the 1910 does not support either high or wide. 7.1 adds rears only.

Denon 7.1 AVRs support Dolby PLIIz front height, while it is the 33XX series that supports DSX (Wide, Height).
post #9111 of 9287
Got everything setup better after work. Built a stand for the left side to keep the heights the same. Audyssey setup was a breeze. Still have some more tweaking to do.
post #9112 of 9287
Hi,

I connected Denon to Wii U with HDMI. Denon's HDMI ouput is connected to Samsung TV and everything works fine. My question is, is it possible to get Wii U's video out from the Denon as digital and analog (RCA) at the same time? I'm trying to connect Wii U to laptop's video capture device.
post #9113 of 9287
Thread Starter 
No, receivers will not "down convert" HDMI video to analog output. Does the WiiU have a basic analog out that you could connect directly to the laptop?
post #9114 of 9287
Thanks! There's hdmi port and Nintendo's own videoport (rca), but I don't know if it's possible to use them at the same time. Well now I have to go to the Nintendo-forum and ask about it.. smile.gif
post #9115 of 9287
New question. Wii u is connected to Denon and it says multi ch in like it should be. My question is what surround mode should I use to get sound out from every speaker (5.1 surround). It seems that choosing 5CH stereo works but I'm not sure is that surround mode supposed to be used? It sound like..well..eh stereo... what the hell is 5.1 stereo.. I want something else than stereo.. eek.gif
post #9116 of 9287
The "MULT CH IN" mode should provide audio to the entire 5.1 setup. Also "Mult CH Stereo" simply mirrors the FL/FR audio to the SL/SR speakers as well as mixing it to the center speaker, such that with a 5.1 setup you have (2) sets of stereo speaker audio and with a 7.1 setup you have (3) sets of stereo speaker audio.
post #9117 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The "MULT CH IN" mode should provide audio to the entire 5.1 setup. Also "Mult CH Stereo" simply mirrors the FL/FR audio to the SL/SR speakers as well as mixing it to the center speaker, such that with a 5.1 setup you have (2) sets of stereo speaker audio and with a 7.1 setup you have (3) sets of stereo speaker audio.

Hmm..I'm not sure did I understand this. It's clear that Wii U gives "Multi ch In" to Denon, so it has to be 5.1 surround. By default it plays sound only from two speakers allthough it says Multi Ch In. Am I messing something up if I press the "surround" button from Denon and choose 5.1 Stereo by myself. Then I get audio from every speaker (5.1) but should Denon understand to play it as multi ch out from every speaker automatically.
post #9118 of 9287
Thread Starter 
I think the problem here is that the wii to HDMI conversion results in a MultiCH PCM input signal with blank channels. Wii audio is natively stereo, but it sounds like in the conversion to HDMI the hardware is outputting a MultiCH PCM signal with the center and surround channels blank.
post #9119 of 9287
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Originally Posted by Rolfrolf View Post

Hmm..I'm not sure did I understand this. It's clear that Wii U gives "Multi ch In" to Denon, so it has to be 5.1 surround. By default it plays sound only from two speakers allthough it says Multi Ch In. Am I messing something up if I press the "surround" button from Denon and choose 5.1 Stereo by myself. Then I get audio from every speaker (5.1) but should Denon understand to play it as multi ch out from every speaker automatically.

As batpig notes, the Wii is likely passing "phantom" channels so in this instance the AVR believes a complete 5.1 signal is being received (this also happens on cable/sat boxes from time to time) and therefore there is no simulation mode available. You may be better served connecting either an optical or RCA cable from the Wii to the AVR which would then likely allow you to use the DD PLII simulation mode.
post #9120 of 9287
I quess thats impossible. I want full hd picture, so audio comes via hdmi too. Theres no possibility to get audio and video separated from different ports. If there wouldnt be this phantom channels issue there would be no need to touch that surroun button. Am I right? If it would produce 5.1, then denon gets it automatically right?
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