*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1910/790 Owner's Thread - Page 305

The "MULT CH IN" mode should provide audio to the entire 5.1 setup. Also "Mult CH Stereo" simply mirrors the FL/FR audio to the SL/SR speakers as well as mixing it to the center speaker, such that with a 5.1 setup you have (2) sets of stereo speaker audio and with a 7.1 setup you have (3) sets of stereo speaker audio.

Hmm..I'm not sure did I understand this. It's clear that Wii U gives "Multi ch In" to Denon, so it has to be 5.1 surround. By default it plays sound only from two speakers allthough it says Multi Ch In. Am I messing something up if I press the "surround" button from Denon and choose 5.1 Stereo by myself. Then I get audio from every speaker (5.1) but should Denon understand to play it as multi ch out from every speaker automatically.

As batpig notes, the Wii is likely passing "phantom" channels so in this instance the AVR believes a complete 5.1 signal is being received (this also happens on cable/sat boxes from time to time) and therefore there is no simulation mode available. You may be better served connecting either an optical or RCA cable from the Wii to the AVR which would then likely allow you to use the DD PLII simulation mode.

I quess thats impossible. I want full hd picture, so audio comes via hdmi too. Theres no possibility to get audio and video separated from different ports. If there wouldnt be this phantom channels issue there would be no need to touch that surroun button. Am I right? If it would produce 5.1, then denon gets it automatically right?

The Wii also supports the use of a component video cable which also supports HD video (720p/1080i) as well. That along with a stereo red/white cable will allow you to use DD PLII to simulate 5.1 audio. Correct. If the source device is passing a DD/DTS 5.1 signal, the AVR will just play it (although a setting issue on the AVR could cause this not to occur).

My Wii is plugged into my AVR1910 using the Vaux ports in the front. It then goes out over HDMI to my Samsung UN40EH6000 TV. Whenever playing the Wii, white dots and lines speckle all over the screen. Very annoying and not sure if it's bad for the TV. Funny thing is, I used to have another TV in place of the one I mentioned, and this problem was not there. So I'm not sure if it's a TV thing or a AVR1910 thing. I posted here though because I have the Denon iPod dock attached to my AVR1910, and those white dots speckled on both TVs. Any ideas?

UPDATE
I found right after I posted that there is a component cable that can be purchased for the Wii. So I ran to Best Buy and bought it, figuring it was worth a shot after reading a bit more, and sure enough, the problem is fixed.
Edited by MMG2003 - 1/20/13 at 6:19pm

I am sure I read the instructions somewhere but cannot find it again. How do I assign the DVR button from the back of the remote to one of the Quick Select buttons on the front of the remote? Driving me nuts.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread#user_L24

After selecting the DVR source using the button on the back, simply press/hold whichever Quick Select button (on the front panel) you want to use for a few seconds until the new source is "memorized" to the Quick Select.

Finally got this to work. Had to dig up the paper manual. Apparently, this memory also serves to memory Audyssey, volume etc. nice. Had to point remote at receiver and get confirmation for it to memorize. Thanks very much.

back to this. Is it possible to connect wii u with hdmi to denon and then take video signal out from denon from two different outputs (hdmi out and something else..)? Both digital of course because digital to analog could'nt be done..

hmm..well monitor out and dvr and vcr out..

Ok, I believe you. But damn it..

Then I have to buy hdmi splitter and hdmi to analog converter and it takes money.

I have recently noticed that my volume level for Zone 2 speakers has gotten extremely low. The receiver needs to be at about +70 to get any listenable sound. This is a relatively new issue. Is there some explanation as to why this would be?

Thanks,
Mark

First check the level of the analog signal feeding the Zone 2 input.

avn

My 1910 is not cooperating with me...for the past month, the central trafficking to the AVR is not functioning. I remember the discussion of sequencing your devices: so I started with turning on the JVC-TV and D*TV HD box on first, then turning on 1910 as the final. I tried it a few times, and changed the sequences around...nothing worked.

Only in an occasional sporadic moment, the AVR activated after identifying the sound source. If the sound source from the D*TV is identified, then it worked. If there is no sound label flashing, then the system fails.

Is it a question of just reset it and forget it? All of the devices are connected through HDMI cables. TIA.
Edited by natchie - 1/24/13 at 11:07am

Not sure what "central trafficking" means, but most likely resetting the AVR should resolve your issue.

LOL...I guess I was thinking of the AVR as a traffic cop directing the signals to go here and there...But what I did, I switched the AVRs (Yamaha 663 from bedroom to living room) and that resolved the issue. The kids were getting antsy with Denon's not allowing the D*TV to be shown on the tv. With Denon in my bedroom, without HDMI cables, everything is working fine.

Hi all. I’m looking for advice on what is turning into a very frustrating experience with my Denon 1910. I bought it new from Crutchfield in June 2010 and it worked perfectly for the first 2 years. I have an ATT Uverse cable box, PS3, and Xbox360 hooked up to it all via HDMI, plus a Wii with component cables. It outputs to a Samsung 50” plasma via HDMI. Speakers are some ancient Bose Acoustimass 7 front and center channels and JBL bookshelfs in the rear. There have been no changes to speakers or inputs other than a switch from DirecTV to ATT Uverse about a year into ownership of the Denon. Everything worked great for the first two years.

Last summer (right after the end of the two year warranty, naturally) the unit started to occasionally go into protection mode with the rapidly blinking red light. This was the every .5 second blinking light for a speaker short – not the overheating light sequence of 2 seconds. It started happening more often, to the point that it would go to protection mode in under a minute even if it had been off for days no matter what the source was. Heat isn’t the issue. It rarely gets played at anything above moderate volume as I have a small house and two young kids.

I have tried:
Swapping speakers as the Bose are very old and may or may not be 8 ohm depending on who you believe (but they are fully functional with two other older receivers I own)
New banana plug connectors
New speaker wire everywhere
Disconnecting all inputs/outputs other than 2 channel speakers and just playing the radio
Removing the unit from its normal location (where it has had 6-7 inches of ventilation on top and has worked fine since 2010)
Reseting the microprocessor per instructions on page 64 of manual and again on 12/14 per instructions over the phone.
Blowing compressed air in the headphone jack

All result in the same thing - the unit makes some very load "thumping" noises then trips the protection circuit. Typically within a few minutes, but when the issue first started occurring over the summer it would sometimes take longer. After some back and forth with Denon, they agreed to a onetime warranty exception and I shipped the unit to a Denon authorized repair center. A month later it comes back, and in speaking with the repair guy on the phone he claims they had it hooked up playing music for 5 days straight without any issues and it tested fine. I get it back and hook it up in my garage with no inputs other than radio and some 25 year old JVC tower speakers – it plays fine for 5-7 hours.

A few weeks later I finally have time to put it back in my main system, thinking it must be an issue with my Bose and JBL speakers based on the repair shops findings and it working with the JVCs – and I have wanted to upgrade to some Take 5 Energys, so I’m okay with dumping the old speakers. But until I can buy those new speakers, I connect the Denon to all the same components but switch the sound to just pass the signal to the TV to output sound. Basically the Denon is just being used as a very expensive HDMI switch as no speakers are connected and the TV is doing the sound amplification.

An hour into watching TV, the Denon protection kicks in. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS CONNECTED! The unit was cool to the touch. The only thing I can think of now is that I have all the entertainment system components plugged in through a very large APC battery back up unit (as they have been since 2010) I suspect that APC battery back up is starting to lose the ability to hold a charge. My brain tells me this shouldn’t matter while the APC is plugged into the AC and back in the summer I had tried swapping outlets when I originally was troubleshooting, but I plug the Denon directly into the wall – and it ran fine for a few hours last night - but I have no trust in it not kicking off again. We shall see.

Keep in mind my 10 year old Kenwood 1080vr was swapped into the place of the Denon and has been driving the same speakers, plugged into the same APC unit, etc with only the inputs changed since it is too old to have HDMI. It has been playing fine for at least a month like this.

I am at a loss – I paid $400 for this in 2010. I expected more longevity than 2-3 years! Every other receiver I have ever owned still works 10-20 years later! I really am out of ideas of how to fix this. I don’t think Denon is going to offer anything now that their repair shop has said the unit works fine.

Any ideas? Am I missing something that I should test?

I would hate for you to have to spend more money to buy a new unit. I can only offer advice to try it again:

1. Bring it back to the garage and see if it does the same thing (garage power outlet with your JVC's).

2. If 1 passes, bring the unit back to your TV room, buy a long ass extension chord (3 prong) and use another power outlet in the house. See if this passes. If possible, run the long extension chord to the outlet in the garage. This will tell you more and allow you to weed out more issues. If that is not feasible, run #1 in a closer power outlet to the TV (and see if it passes) so you can try #2 with that outlet.

Short of some electromagnetic pulse messing up the electronics in the TV area, I wonder if it is your UPS. Have you tried to by-pass the UPS altogether with your speakers hooked up?

Unless I'm misreading your post, the unit has worked fine by bypassing the APC so it would seem the APC was defective and the result of the problem, no? This would also agree with the repair shop findings in that they were not using your APC and found no issues.

Correct - and this would seem to be an easy fix, except for the fact I did previously bypass the APC once before in testing and the unit still kicked off the protection circuit (and was sitting in the middle of a room, with no inputs/outputs other than 2 channel speakers and the radio playing). This is what really puts a wrench in thinking the APC was the issue - but when I did it before I only did it once and it was after several hours of trying to troubleshoot. But it was also right after I had reset the unit with the Denon guy on the phone. So that leaves me with doubts it was the APC (not to mention every other component and the TV is connected through the APC right now with no issue). I keep telling myself that maybe the Denon is more sensitive to this type of stuff than my older Kenwood receiver.

Right now the unit has been plugged directly into the wall and after 2 days of use (mostly TV, but a little on the Xbox and PS3) it hasn't kicked off again. It has run for up to 6-7 hours at a time now without issue. Next up is trying to hook speakers back up to it and see what happens.

I'm fine if the APC was the issue and I can blame the prior time it kicked off without being plugged into the APC as a fluke - but it will take a while to trust the unit's stability.

Hey guys,
Im running the 1910 with a dish hopper and sony bluray. Both via hdmi. Setup is 5.1. Just wanted to see which mode i should use. Direct,PLIIxC,etc.or does it matter? Want to make sure that I am using the riht one.

Hi Scooby06, use what sound best to your ears. My preferences are DTSMA-HD, TrueHD, Dolby Digital, Dolby PLII and Stereo.

You will generally NOT want to use either DIRECT or PURE DIRECT as with either Audyssey is disabled. Generally the most common setting is to play DD/DTS 5.1 as is and then play stereo 2.0 content (eg. SD TV channels) using DD PLII - Cinema.

Thanks for the replies. Here are the options I have....Direct,Stereo,Dolby Digital,Dolby Digital Ex,Dolby Digital PLIIxC,Dolby Digital PLIIxC and 7 channel stereo.

So I should just set it to Dolby Digital? Since the Hopper does Dolby and the only channels I watch are in HD?