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post #9211 of 9287
Either assign the Wii to an unused source name or purchase a Wii2HDMI.

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-1080P-Output-Upscaling-Converter/dp/B007PY3ZPG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371279424&sr=8-1&keywords=wii2+hdmi
post #9212 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Either assign the Wii to an unused source name or purchase a Wii2HDMI.

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-1080P-Output-Upscaling-Converter/dp/B007PY3ZPG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371279424&sr=8-1&keywords=wii2+hdmi

I don't have any HDMI inputs left so will.need to read up on renaming.
post #9213 of 9287
Not "renaming" which is another feature, rather you want to read about "assigning" on p. 33 OM - Input Assign (Component).
post #9214 of 9287
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Originally Posted by timbo_bobcat View Post

Hi everyone can I ask for help please as I'm at my wit's end.


I've had a AVR-1910 for a couple of years now, with a Sony BDP-S760 blu-ray player feeding it and a cable box. HDMI connections throughout.


I've not used the blu-ray for several months and on trying to use it this week I've found I only get stereo sound from blu-ray disks, no surround at all let alone the "blue light".


I do get Dolby Digital from the cable box as expected.


I've looked at all the Sony's settings and they seem to be correct as per posts on this forum and done the same with the Denon. The Sony says it is outputting DTS HD sound, but the Denon only shows Stereo.


I've touched none of the settings on either box for the Blu-ray input since I last used it when I got proper DTS HD sound.


What should I try next? Is there some simple button press on the Denon remote I might have tripped, to stop me getting surround sound of any description?


I've been through Batpig's guide again as well, all seems set properly.


Any ideas please??

I know I'm a little late to the party, but I just recently went away for a month, came back, and when I tried to play a BD on my PS3 slim, I got only stereo surround as well. No pretty blue light, no HD audio. frown.gif Very weird. So I read batpig's FAQ (genius), and learned about the 2 channel/secondary audio issue.

Just FYI for PS3 users: if this happens to u, u need to manually configure your HDMI audio output settings to disable 2 channel output to the AVR. Do not select automatic configuration. (That's what worked for me anyways.)
post #9215 of 9287
Hello, sorry if this has been asked before, but can the 790 pass through video from an RCA input over an HDMI output?

I've had mine for a few years and been completely happy with it, but I just hooked up an old N64 to the V.AUX inputs on the front, and the video cuts out as soon as there's a signal going to it. I can view the menus on screen, but when I power on the N64 it goes blank, and my TV says there's no input.

Thanks!
post #9216 of 9287
As noted on p. 9 in your Owner's manual, the 790 can convert analog --> HDMI; however, there is also a caveat to that listed in a note on that same page ....

post #9217 of 9287
I have set the volume when I open the AVR at -27 and its fine when I listen to FM radio. But when I switch to input Cable, the volume is at -27 but its a little lower and I have to increase it at -23 to be in a confortable zone.

Is there a way to have the Cable at -23 when opening the avr at cable and Fm radio at -27 or is there a way to the tv at same sound level as th Fm radio. thanks
post #9218 of 9287
Thread Starter 
The only way is if you use a Quick Select to power on the receiver and/or switch inputs. The Quick Select buttons will memorize the volume setting in addition to the surround mode, Audyssey mode, etc.
post #9219 of 9287
How do I do a Quick select, presently I use the Universal remote Logitech One to do the switching.

correct me if wrong open the fm radio(-27) than with the Denon control move the volume to -24 and switch to cable. is that what you call a Quick Select. tia
post #9220 of 9287
Select Cable input and set your volume (-23 or -24 or whatever), then press and hold the white cable quick Select button (1 of 3) near the top of the remote for a few seconds. It will save your input mode and volume, so the next time you press it without holding it down (if you are in FM input, DVD, or whatever), it will switch to Cable with your saved volume.

Select FM input and set your volume (-27), then press and hold one of the other 2 white quick select buttons (VCR is probably good since no one uses them anymore) for a few seconds. It will save the input mode (FM) and volume, so the next time you press it without holding it down, it will switch to FM with your saved volume.

Note that the 6 buttons below (like Tuner) don't save volume settings - they just switch inputs, so you need to use either the DVD or VCR white Quick Select button for FM. I believe the Quick Select buttons will save surround sound settings as well, so you can have your cable input always set to Dolby Digital, and your DVD set to DTS, for example.
Edited by HDTimeShifter - 7/8/13 at 2:05pm
post #9221 of 9287
Ok I got that, but I use the Logitech One to swich from one to the other, do I have include the quick select button in the Logitech one remote. tia
post #9222 of 9287
Thread Starter 
You will probably have to use the learning function to teach the Quick Select buttons to your Harmony remote.
post #9223 of 9287
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Originally Posted by frankmar View Post

I have set the volume when I open the AVR at -27 and its fine when I listen to FM radio. But when I switch to input Cable, the volume is at -27 but its a little lower and I have to increase it at -23 to be in a confortable zone.

Is there a way to have the Cable at -23 when opening the avr at cable and Fm radio at -27 or is there a way to the tv at same sound level as th Fm radio. thanks

In addition to using a Quick Select, you can also adjust the Source Level setting (p. 35 OM) by increasing the CBL/SAT input setting to +4db.

post #9224 of 9287
Thread Starter 
Ooh, good point JD. I should have remembered that. Matching the source levels is much easier.
post #9225 of 9287
Thanks guys I knew I could rely on you Guys:) I did both the Quick set( I set it back to 27) but the procedure is still in the Logitech One and I increased the lnput source level to +4 in analog and digital.
post #9226 of 9287
One other thing, is that I wanted to manually increase the centre speaker by +2, it works but when I close my avr(in standby) and open it again the modification is not there anymore. How can I increase the centre speaker vol. and keep it. tia again.
Edited by frankmar - 7/9/13 at 8:07pm
post #9227 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

...Also note that if you purchased with a credit card, your credit card issuer may add an additional 3rd year to Denon's 2 year warranty (Amex will for sure as will some MC/Visa).

So after several months and a "second opinion" from a different authorized Denon repair shop which replaced two diodes (but didn't really specify which ones beyond listing part "9630328409 DENON DIODES" for $2.46) my 1910 is supposedly fixed - total cost of repair was about $140 which my credit card warranty paid for - so thanks for the tip!

Since getting it back in mid-May I haven't even plugged it in yet - I just moved houses so life has been crazy. I also just ordered some Energy Take Classics off of Amazon for $279 which will arrive today, so I hope to hook everything up soon.
post #9228 of 9287
Hi have a 4 years old Denon AVR 1910

I have no Picture output from the HDMI.
If i remove the cable in the output, i can get sound from the HDMI going in to it. But as soon as i put the cable in HDMI out all sounds stops.
And i can't get any Picture to the TV, not even menus.
I have tried to resetting it to factory settings by holding < and > while turning it on, with no results, other than it now has factory settings...

Is it the HDMI board that is dead?

EDIT.
Just testet it with another cable, and found out that it is only when the cable is in the TV the sound cuts off???
So when the cable is in HDMI out but not in the TV i can hear the sound. As soon as i put it in the TV so that there is connection, the sound dissapears...
Can it be the TV thats the problem?
Edited by Xplized - 8/15/13 at 3:25am
post #9229 of 9287
Could be ... try the other HDMI inputs on the TV to confirm as it's doubtful they would all be bad.
post #9230 of 9287
I have just bought a new Panasonic TH-P60ST60A (2013 model) and can't get my AVR-790 to work with it.
My last tv was a hitachi and I had it connected up with hdmi cable to hdmi-1 on the tv and it worked fine.
Got new Panasonic today and disconnected Hitachi and conected Panasonic to hdmi-1 and nothing.
Panasonic manual says to connect to hdmi-2 (ARC) so tried that and still nothing. Is AVR-790 ARC compatible? How do I get it to work with this TV? Any help appreciated as it's just not the same watching tv without my surround sound that I have been used to for years.
post #9231 of 9287
Thread Starter 
The 790 doesn't support ARC but that shouldn't prevent you from using it with a newer ARC capable display.... you just won't be able to use the ARC feature.

As a first step try disabling HDMI CEC on all devices, eg HDMI Control on the Denon, VieraLink on the TV etc.
post #9232 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The 790 doesn't support ARC but that shouldn't prevent you from using it with a newer ARC capable display.... you just won't be able to use the ARC feature.

As a first step try disabling HDMI CEC on all devices, eg HDMI Control on the Denon, VieraLink on the TV etc.


Thanks for your reply, HDMI control was already set to off on the Denon and I have turned vieralink off on the TV but still no sound from speakers only the TV ones. I remember years ago when I got the Denon I spent days on here reading to get it all set up and your posts helped me out a lot, Thankyou. I thought it would be easy as unplugging old TV and plugging in new TV the same, eg. HDMI from Denon to HDMI-1 just like on old TV. I am stumped as to what to try next, what if I was to go and buy an optical cable and run that from TV to the Denon would that help and if so do I need to change any of the old settings on the Denon.
post #9233 of 9287
Thread Starter 
Wait, you are hearing audio from the tv speakers? Do you have your sources connected to the TV directly and/or are you using internally tuned sources on the TV? Like Netflix or other apps?

The 1910/790 doesn't have ARC as we just discussed, so the audio will not pipe back to the receiver automatically. You need to connect the sources directly to the receiver or else use an optical audio cable to pipe the digital audio back to the receiver.
post #9234 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Wait, you are hearing audio from the tv speakers? Do you have your sources connected to the TV directly and/or are you using internally tuned sources on the TV? Like Netflix or other apps?

The 1910/790 doesn't have ARC as we just discussed, so the audio will not pipe back to the receiver automatically. You need to connect the sources directly to the receiver or else use an optical audio cable to pipe the digital audio back to the receiver.

I have nothing else connected to TV or receiver, not using any other apps. I just have TV and receiver set up at the moment and want the sound of tv to come through surround speakers, The only other thing I have to hook up is PS3 that I will use for blu-rays and dvd but I haven't even tried hooking that up yet, just want the TV to work through the Denon at the moment and will worry about PS3 later. When I had the other TV I had PS3 to receiver and then to TV by HDMI cables and it all worked fine.
Do you think that I need optical cable for TV sound to work through reviever as I didn't need it with old TV, Hope this all makes sense to you and thanks for your help.
post #9235 of 9287
Correct. As noted, the 790 is not ARC capable so the only way to get audio back from any TV (Hitachi or otherwise) is either by connecting an optical cable or analog (red/white) cables from the TV to the 790.
post #9236 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Correct. As noted, the 790 is not ARC capable so the only way to get audio back from any TV (Hitachi or otherwise) is either by connecting an optical cable or analog (red/white) cables from the TV to the 790.

Ok so I tried buying an optical cable today but can't get one in the small town i'm in so have ordered one online, have to wait on the mail man now.
I didn't need one with my 7 year old Hitachi,( which wasn't ARC ) I had it hooked up with HDMI cables only and every thing worked.
post #9237 of 9287
Thread Starter 
I'm sorry but you are missing something. You have to understand the difference between an external source (like your ps3) and the content sourced by the TV itself. Currently you don't have ANY external sources hooked up as you indicates above, that implies that your tv itself is generating the source (either using its internal cable tuner or a streaming app), and the audio has to pipe BACK to the receiver somehow. Since the 790 doesn't have ARC it is mandatory that you add another cable, as how else can the audio go back to the receiver? If you were to hook another source to the receiver (the ps3) then of course you'd get audio on the surround speakers because the source is hooked up directly to the receiver.

All of the above is true for your Hitachi too. If you were getting audio on the receiver then it's because you had an EXTERNAL source hooked up to the receiver. It's impossible that audio sourced in the Hitachi was piping back to the receiver over that single HDMI monitor connection.
post #9238 of 9287
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I'm sorry but you are missing something. You have to understand the difference between an external source (like your ps3) and the content sourced by the TV itself. Currently you don't have ANY external sources hooked up as you indicates above, that implies that your tv itself is generating the source (either using its internal cable tuner or a streaming app), and the audio has to pipe BACK to the receiver somehow. Since the 790 doesn't have ARC it is mandatory that you add another cable, as how else can the audio go back to the receiver? If you were to hook another source to the receiver (the ps3) then of course you'd get audio on the surround speakers because the source is hooked up directly to the receiver.

All of the above is true for your Hitachi too. If you were getting audio on the receiver then it's because you had an EXTERNAL source hooked up to the receiver. It's impossible that audio sourced in the Hitachi was piping back to the receiver over that single HDMI monitor connection.

Thanks so much for explaining all that, you are right, I just hooked up PS3 and put a Blu ray on and have sound (YES). I was forgetting that on the old Hitachi I had it didn't have an internal cable tuner and I had to have a separate external one which was hooked up to receiver first. Thanks so much for solving my problem. Now I just have to wait for optical cable to show up in the mail and all should be good.

Cheers.
post #9239 of 9287
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Could be ... try the other HDMI inputs on the TV to confirm as it's doubtful they would all be bad.

I have tried the other HDMI with no luck. I have found out that it is only when that HDMI IN is active the receiver cuts off.
post #9240 of 9287
Then it's more than likely the HDMI board on the AVR has gone bad (electrical storm perhaps?). The unit only has a 2 year warranty, so the warranty has likely expired and as the HDMI board generally costs about $300, you would be better served updating to a more current model (the newer models all have networking now). As a final last attempt, try doing a few more microprocessor resets in a row (at least 3-4) before giving up on it. Keep in mind you can also use component video cables to get video to the TV.
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