Turner Classic Movies (TCM) in HDTV! - Page 43

Turner owns the rights to both films, as well as owns the channel, so that's not the case.

I think the question posed translates as "Are there differences?" and the answer is "Yes, they are run independently".

It doesn't really answer the HD question per se, but implies we cannot assume anything in common other than their name.

You got it. Downconverts HD masters (where they have them) and then upconverts to HD -- but of course, what is lost is lost, so then it's fake HD.

Downconverting means removing pixels of picture information?

Yes.

The Adventures of Robin Hood to remaster HD :

http://tcmcinema.fr/films/fiche/the-...hood-1938_738/

Mainly in getting distribution. I'd bet they would have a better chance of getting paid for their HD channel if it actually showed HD.

While I would love to at least have a higher bit rate version of the ugly SD version I get on D*, I'm glad they haven't added them when they aren't showing HD. It was a waste for them to do it for TBS early on, though at least TCM isn't stretching the SD like TBS was.

You know, it is worth noting that the clips Urga has posted are a step above anything I have seen on ANY high definition channel in 6 1/2 years of viewing HD.

That's because it's been at least 7 years since HD looked its absolute best here. You bought in too late...

Cinéma : Man Who Would Be King, The , Master HD .

Geez, do you have to keep rubbing it in?? ;-)


EDIT: running, rubbing ... (stupid auto-complete )

Really, Urga is killing us here!

I'm actually curious (envious) of the screenshot mechanism.

With TWC/LA where everything (including basic cable channels as well as TCMHD) is marked copy-once (i.e. "copy protected" to WMC), it's not possible to take a screenshot like this. WMC itself has no "frame grab" capability and because it's copy-protected you can't even use a program like VideoRedo to read the WTV recording you've made. You're limited to recording with WMC and then playing it back with WMC. Period. Only local network OTA channels carried by TWC/LA are copy-freely and are open to all players/editors.

So just seeing this type of frame capture capability which is impossible to me makes me crazy.

Personally I'm very suspicious of them.....if you look at the above quote(from post #1210) you can see the Pioneer label on the bottom of the TV. If this were the case these wouldn't be electronic screen shots but rather photographs of the actual HDTV screen. Whenever I take a screen shot that way it looks just awful

You're right! These are actual PHOTOS of the HDTV itself, taken with a camera!

I'd noticed that the earlier shots were slightly "askew" (i.e. rotated slightly from pure rectangular orientation) but somehow discounted that to the manner in which they were attached or processed for uploading to a hosting site or something. Actually I think my mind just tried to come up with some semi-rational explanation or just neglected to fully process it, because I (like you) have NEVER EVER been able to photograph my HDTV and have it look like it looks to my own eyes. Either the color is off (no matter how I try to compensate in the camera white-balance settings) or it's not framed correctly by the camera and has to be cropped with Photoshop which then mandates re-compression to JPG which reduces its sharpness, etc.

So you've actually brought up what we should REALLY be discussing... namely how in the world did Urga "photograph" his HDTV and get it to look so good when those images were posted here? They are JPG, and presumably were cropped/recompressed from the original (NEF? raw of some kind? camera-produced JPG that were cropped and recompressed to second-generation JPG?).

So what's the trick to doing this so well?

Presumably, you don't use a flash. Some people do and wonder why the result is bad.

No flash ( off ) .

Forum fr :

http://screenshots.leforum.eu/t4-Top...htm?start=2010

APN Bridge Lumix FZ8 Manual Setting .

Have screenshots of my Kuro Plasma screen.
All my APN settings are manual.
The White Balance is made with a focus 70IRE on the plasma and then shoté and storage.

OK, jjeff, you're not one of those that takes pictures of the tv screen with a flash, are you?

No flash but whenever I've done it the picture looks nothing like Urga's. Of course I was hand holding the camera and just used a middle of the line point and shot digital camera(but I did experiment with different shutter speeds and f-stops). I'll see if I can find one of my typical "photographed" screen shots. Did a couple in the SYTYCD programming thread but it was before I knew how to attach the photo and I emailed the photo to someone else who was kind enough to post them for me(under their name).

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=707
^^link to photos, note when looking on my HDTV it looks much better than the photos but this program was only a HD upconvert and I was trying to point out how the picture had severe jaggies so they were of a time where jaggies were most noticeable. Two of the photos are of my TV and two are from HoustonPerson's(who's photos don't look much better than mine).
I guess none of this is really TCM talk so I'll probably leave it at that, just to say Urga's shots are as good as I've seen using the optical method.

Hello " jjef ",

Work with a tripod about 1 m 50 of the screen.
AFN manual Balance White, F8, Iso 100, exposure time according to the brightness of the image displayed on your screen.
Self timer 2 s and its is already better.

AFN Lumix FZ8 settings:

Sharpness : Standard
Contrast: Low
Saturation: Standard

Some of the most amazing point-and-shoot digital cameras are being introduced now, some the size of cigarette packages.

A longtime photographer friend says this in the Lumix line is a keeper:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-...5196446&sr=1-1

Doubtlessly Urga's Lumix is a fine machine as well.

Said friend has this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerSho...5196856&sr=1-1

As do I. A remarkable achievement.

"In addition to being able to shoot Full HD 1080p video at 24* frames per second, the PowerShot S100 can also shoot 720p HD video at 30** frames per second."

Seen the adventures of robin hood on TCM HD:



Master of good quality with a colo well restored and well saturated.
I referred a few shotes another day.

Hello ,

A few screens of Robin Hood:

Maybe it's my eyes, but that doesn't even look like true HD to me. Lacks fine detail, with some edge enhancement added to make it appear sharper.

I'll it take over what they are giving me in the U.S.!