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post #1681 of 1697
3/13/13 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by sivadselim View Post

I know it is discussed in the thread but I never got to a definitive answer after reading through several pages, so maybe someone can just answer:

Why the narrow pillarboxes on widescreen (i.e. 1.85:1) material? I gather that these are probably upconverts but, still, why the windowboxing?

Thanks!



For example:




The Way We Were, today. Why is it windowboxed?

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That was a custom presentation/aspect ratio, specially created to accommodate Streisand's Schnozzle.

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post #1682 of 1697
3/13/13 at 5:22pm
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Yeah, but it's getting to the point where it's like a gas station claiming to sell you premium, but only pumping regular.

It's like going into the grocery store and seeing a bottle full of what looks like fruit juice - it even has grapes, apples and other fruit on the label. However, when you look closer, you notice it claims to be some ambiguous "juice drink". A peek at the ingredients shows it to contain water, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, MSG, "natural and artificial flavors, cow hooves, pig ears and about 2 tablespoons of apple and grape juice from concentrate.
Probably not even that much!
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post #1683 of 1697
3/14/13 at 1:52pm
Hello ,

" La Fille de Ryan "

Csat/Kuro :





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post #1684 of 1697
3/14/13 at 1:53pm




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post #1685 of 1697
3/14/13 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Yeah, but it's getting to the point where it's like a gas station claiming to sell you premium, but only pumping regular.

It's like going into the grocery store and seeing a bottle full of what looks like fruit juice - it even has grapes, apples and other fruit on the label. However, when you look closer, you notice it claims to be some ambiguous "juice drink". A peek at the ingredients shows it to contain water, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, MSG, "natural and artificial flavors, cow hooves, pig ears and about 2 tablespoons of apple and grape juice from concentrate.
But TCM never refers to themselves as an hd channel and they never have an hd logo anywhere on the screen. It's only the cable and satellite distributors that call them tcmhd.
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post #1686 of 1697
3/15/13 at 3:39am
Csat 2 channels for TCM France :

TCM SD Chanel 27
TCM HD Chanel 519

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post #1687 of 1697
3/18/13 at 2:01pm
My goodness, Urga, that is beautiful television.
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post #1688 of 1697
3/19/13 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by Stan54 View Post

My goodness, Urga, that is beautiful television.
Hello ,

It is HD native 1920x1080i Mpeg4 H264 ...

the film " La Fille de Ryan " is the restored HD version ... wink.gif
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post #1689 of 1697
3/31/13 at 9:19am


This is the info from this morning's presentation of Ben Hur. Video bitrate is 6.9Mbps - lower than many standard def DVDs.



notice the windowboxing present as well. when both the tv and source are set for overscanning the image fills the entire set.
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post #1690 of 1697
3/31/13 at 9:45am
BH is Letterbox dts MA 5.1 on Blu
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post #1691 of 1697
3/31/13 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

BH is Letterbox dts MA 5.1 on Blu

And looks and sounds absolutely wonderful at that! wink.gif
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post #1692 of 1697
4/1/13 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by pittsoccer33 View Post



This is the info from this morning's presentation of Ben Hur. Video bitrate is 6.9Mbps - lower than many standard def DVDs.



notice the windowboxing present as well. when both the tv and source are set for overscanning the image fills the entire set.
Hello ,

TCM HD Has not yet released the restored HD version in france ...

Tonight " The Night of the Generals " :

http://tcmcinema.fr/films/fiche/the-night-of-the-generals-1967_84918/

Version unreleased HDTV in France ... cool.gif
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post #1693 of 1697
4/7/13 at 5:35am
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

Recorded LOA on my Dish 622 via Sony Movie Channel. TV is a Panasonic TC-P65GT30 that was professionally calibrated in May of ’12. Top photos of each pic are mine; Urga's the bottom.


This was on last night. i'll add my screen caps as the third image.





This is also a lower bandwidth video than the one I recorded about a year ago in April. That was 8.559Mbps, last night's was 6.76 - almost a 25% reduction in quality. Curious if thats on TCM or Comcast.
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post #1694 of 1697
4/7/13 at 1:35pm
It is very possible that Comcast is squeezing the bitrate down as I'm pretty sure TCM is one of the channels they distribute via their Comcast Media Center in Colorado. Most of the cable-TV channels that are distributed there are "3-packed", meaning they are sent 3 per QAM and that means you have 3 channels "fighting" for 2 channels worth of space. It's more involved than that but that is the basics of it.

Older HD channels such as their flagship TNT-HD channel were usually full bitrate although today that may have changed, I haven't looked at TNT bitrates in a few years.

CMC not only distributes channels to their own cable systems but to other cable companies across the country with their HITS system of CMC, I believe Charter and Mediacom are among the cable companies that use CMC-sourced channels.
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post #1695 of 1697
4/10/13 at 10:34pm
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I still say it's a rights issue and the downconvert and upconvert process is a way to get around not actually airing HD transfers while still having an "HD" channel.

This makes sense.

I've just been using a high definition TV for a few days, and the grim reality is slowly sinking-in: the cable company is delivering a hot mess. Ya, you get to see every pore on Brian William's face, the popular network TV shows are sent with a high bit rate. But the movie channels I care so much about are sucking the hind teat, digitally speaking.

I watched "Sleuth" on TCMHD tonight. The movements were jerky, I had to switch to the standard definition channel.
Edited by Richard Burger - 4/20/13 at 11:11pm
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post #1696 of 1697
4/24/13 at 7:30am
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Originally Posted by Richard Burger View Post

This makes sense.

I've just been using a high definition TV for a few days, and the grim reality is slowly sinking-in: the cable company is delivering a hot mess. Ya, you get to see every pore on Brian William's face, the popular network TV shows are sent with a high bit rate. But the movie channels I care so much about are sucking the hind teat, digitally speaking.

I watched "Sleuth" on TCMHD tonight. The movements were jerky, I had to switch to the standard definition channel.



Mankiewicz's "Sleuth"? What does it look like? Like a true HD or upconvert? Thx smile.gif
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post #1697 of 1697
4/24/13 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by Noach Kowalski View Post

Mankiewicz's "Sleuth"? What does it look like? Like a true HD or upconvert? Thx smile.gif
Well, it looks like a poorly done upconvert. I occasionally get this problem of jerky movements on the TCMHD channel. I'm fairly certain it is a problem at their end, but I suppose it could involve video format conversions in my DVR or TV.

(BTW, I occasionally see the same jerky movements with video clips that I convert from one format to another using software on my PC. I never have figured out the exact source of the problem, but it looks like frames are being dropped.)
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