Fi Q18 vs eD 19Ov.2

The Q18 has more displacement than the 190v.2. And you can get it custom tailored for your application.

Are they the same price? I have had great success with multiple eD's.

I like my 19ov.2. I think it may come down to price. If the performance gains are minimal and you have to pay an extra $100 it may not be worth it. You may have more than you need with a pair of either. I would suggest against the 1300 plate amp though. You can get an ep2500 with nearly twice the power for less money which equals the ability to add two more drivers later.

With nothing to compare it to I was happy with my 19ov.2. After I got into the DIY part of things it wasnt nearly as impressive. Be ready to add some glue to the dust cover. Mine rattled when I first got it and I found out its not uncommon.

Again, I have not had any issues with my 8 drivers. I built mine with minimal effort too. There are better drivers for sure, but usually at a cost of twice as much. I am not sure about the Fi Q18 though, it might be only $100 more.

RCA to 1/4" headphone jack adapters are $3.

I don't think you will be unhappy either way, but I would go with the ep2500. You will upgrade sometime later and when you do you will want the extra power it has.

You can find the ep2500 for 250 shipped if are patient and shop around. Also, with the ep2500 you will need an eq or high pass filter, those usually run 50 to 1000 new/used. Something like a reckhorn b-1 or ED eq.2. And I'm with brandon, more power in the ep2500 means more room to upgrade later I'd say go that way.

I have 4 Q18s, I like them....just want to post that since many posted "I like my...."

Of course I use them in an IB array, I have not read about them being used in boxes. They are woofers from the car world but Scott at Ficaraudio.com will modify them for IB installations, not sure about box configurations.

They have the best displacement/$$$ out there!

No they don't, the FiCar 18" IB subs do.
I was shocked at the value.

Spaces, paragraphs and putting the $ symbol in front of the dollar figure make it easier to read wtf you're saying.

So the Q18's have more displacement than the 190v.2.
The Ep2500 has more power than the L/T-1300.
And the Q18/EP2500 combo is cheaper.

Can you guess which one I'd go for?

CZ Eddie,
Penn was talking about the FI Q18 for the displacement/$$$. Also, I would get the ep-2500 with either sub to save money and have more power. The fi Q18 would be $100 more that way. I know I got a great discount from eD for multiples. I was thinking of the fi Q18 as well but I got the eD driver for half as much which made 2 eD's more powerful than the 1 Q18 for the same price.

Yes, I realize he was talking about the Q18's. I'm talking about the IB 18's, which are a different FiCar model.

I know about the other models, Penn owns the Q18's in an IB and was referring to them.

Yes, I know what subwoofer he is referring to. And his statement is incorrect. So what is your point?

That is my point, I am confused. Penn said that the Q18 is the best displacement/$$$ driver and you don't agree? Are you saying that the IB 18 is? I thought the Q18 was there better sounding driver? There are many cheap high spl drivers out there that sound aweful. I was just asking not to start trouble, just confused.

Yes but you do realize the Q18s are the originals from Scott and the NEW Ficar IB 18s are what he started to selling for Home audio.

More or less I consider the IB 18s just an updated version of the original Q18s.

Who cares they are both fom Ficar

Ah,
Thanks Penn, I am no longer confused.

Guys, it doesn't matter. And Penn, I'm not attacking you.

Pen stated the Q18 had the best $ to displacement ratio.

That is not a correct statement.

The IB18 has a better $ to displacement ratio.

It doesn't matter what company makes it. It doesn't matter what lineup it's in. Both are used for home theater on a regular basis. And since when has sound quality had anything to do with $ to displacement????
The IB18 has more displacement per $ than the Q18.

Tell me I'm wrong one more time.

There are drivers out there that can reproduce very loud spl's but at 40-80 hz or so in the pro world. I thought the point was to get not only high spl but good sound quality and deep extension. Is the IB 18 a replacement for the Q18? I have not checked their website recently. I will do that now.

What about their BTL series if you want to take about displacement.

The IB18 is mostly used for Infinite Baffle arrangements and has a solid reputation for sound quality.

I never bothered with the BTL series, so I don't know how it falls into the $ to displacement category? I think I didn't like the FS on it or something?

This is a $ to displacement chart I came up with to help me decide on my budget vs. subwoofers to purchase. There are other, more complete charts out there. But they usually are kind of old and don't have the latest prices or the newest subs.

My chart's prices include shipping cost to Texas and most of the prices are up to date.

As you can see, the IB18 just kills the rest. And the Shiva was beat out by the Dayton DVC 15", which I was kind of surprised to see.
For a normal vented or sealed enclosure subs, the eD 190v.2 is still the best value of the subs listed below. Last year when it was $50 cheaper, it was an even better value!
DIYCable used to have four-packs which made them creep up in the value column also.


I attached the Excel chart as a .zip. It's the same thing you see above.

 

sub value.zip 4.0751953125k . file

I didnt think you were arguing.....the IB18 is the upgrade to the Q18, I still consider them the same thing so you are right and Im right

The Q18 was not used in HT before myself and several others bought them from Scott @ ficar several years ago. He posted on the IB Cult offering up drivers that had HUGE displacement and I couldnt resists 4 for $1K shipped

The last link I used to check displacement/$$$ was this


http://pages.sbcglobal.net/ginmtb/wo...ison_chart.htm

It would be nice to see how the Creative Sounds SDX series compare ....