*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1610/590 owner's thread - Page 64

Sorry, but as you learned, most likely you won't, especially if there is no preset listed in your manual. Your best bet really is a universal remote (eg Harmony). There are additional discrete commands that have been developed for the Harmony remotes as well (eg Dyn VOL - Midnight, Evening, Daytime) that are not available on the Denon supplied remote. Click on the link in batpig's sig for more info on how to get those codes should you decide to go the Harmony route.

Thanks for the quick reply JD. Will certainly look into the Harmony.

Is there a particular model Harmony remote that is most popular with those of us who have minumal components? I was thinking of the Harmony One perhaps?

Sure, if you don't mind dropping $150+ that's probably the best one to get (and the one that batpig uses I believe). However, there are other models in the $50-$70 range that will perform just as well (especially with only a few components) just with fewer bells and whistles.

Whew! I am so glad to hear that! If you don't me asking, which model do you prefer? Since I have decided on Denon reciever, I'm sure buying a Harmony remote would be a good idea.

I don't personally use a Harmony, however, Batpig has owned several Harmony remotes (and is the Harmony guru) and generally recommends the 550, 620 or 670 which can be had from either Amazon or eBay at times for under $100. Some have a better ergonomic feel to them so just review the specs for each one and get the one that works best for you (feel, looks, and budget). I believe the only advice he provides is not to go with the very lowest models. CNET actually rated The ONE as one of the best remotes of all time, so although costing more, may have a better return for you (WAF).

Yes, the WAF is main reason for wanting a Harmony remote before the new Denon would be put into use. My wife fuses fuses enough with set up now. I have everything programmed into the Onkyo receiver remote at the moment. She just is not willing to spend time getting familiar with it.

I finally purchased a Denon AVR-1610 to replace my old HK AVR-35 based upon some of the experiences and recommendations made by other members on this thread.

You will notice that this is some of my first postings, even though I have been a member for many years. I have used the forum as a reference for the purchase of many items over the years.

My simple Home Theater consists of; (living room 12' x 20' x 7');

Sony 46XBR2
Pioneer BDP-320 (HDMI}
Toshiba HD-A2 (HDMI)
HK AVR-35 (5.1 @ 40W rms x 5) being replaced with Denon AVR-1610
Klipsch Synergy Series 1 speakers SF-2's (96db), SC-1 (95b), SS-1s (94 db)
Infinity HPS-500 Sub (15" 500w)
X-Box
Dell Laptop
Dish VIP-211k

My questions are:
Will my older Klipsch/Infinty speakers/Sub be adequate for use with my new Denon?

Does any one see any potential HDMI/audio problems or conflicts?

Thanks in advance. I will comment back in a few days about any results!

Picked up a AVR-590 as an open box at a great price. I himmed and hawed about whether to get a 590 or 790 or a different brand all together Just want to thank everyone here in this forum and especially Batpig for making the setup relatively painless. Now gotta get that Blu Ray player!

Thanks guys!!

I just got the avr 590 and I am curious can I output video on component and HDMI at the same time?

In order to get video out of the component OUT jack you would need to feed it a component video IN (there is no HDMI downconversion); however, AFAIK, the HDMI video will take priority over the component video when assigned to the same source.

thats what i wanted to know. thank you.

For more assurance .... at average volumes an AVR uses less than 10W.

Hello people. Nice forum. I am very new to this whole hobby and just purchased a 590 which I am extremely pleased with so far even though I have not set it up optimally yet. I am in Canada and am a subscriber of bell express vu. I only have a sd model 4100 receiver and using the 3.1 ir remote. I was wondering if anybody knows of a code I can use on the aux mode on the remote just to control the volume of the 590. I do not mind using the denon remote for the features but I would just like to control the volume with my bell remote. If not then does anybody know if there is a way to use the number pad when the denon remote is programmed for other things? It will allow me to change the channels on my satellite using the arrow keys for up and down but will not let me punch in a specific channel. Thanks!!!!

I just bought the AVR 590 this morning and wired it up. The main reason I picked this receiver was because I also just bought a new Samsung UN46B8500 LED/LCD, and my old equipment (optical digital) was creating horrible lip-sync issues and there was no delay correction.

So I researched for a good entry-level HDMI receiver with lip-sync correction and picked out the 590. Hooked it all up, turned on the "auto lip sync" correction feature aaannd...STILL had lip sync problems

Luckily it also has the manual correction, and by turning it all the way to ~200ms it seems acceptable. But should I have to do this? This isn't my cable STB either, this is from my PS3 watching blu-ray. I haven't tried bitstreaming yet, because I wanted lossless audio...so it was LPCM via HDMI.


I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed. I honestly don't know if it's the PS3, the TV, the receiver...ugh. If anyone could offer some insight I'd really appreciate it.

I'm not sure what lip sync is but I think I'm having some problems as well. I'm using the PS3 and is connected with HDMI to the receiver. The video and audio keeps flickering on and off randomly. I was playing some games and the screen goes blank and the audio gets cut off and comes back on in like 1-4 secs. It's happening a lot more now I'm not sure why. I think I'm going to go return it when my Yamaha RXV665 comes in.

Hi i just purchased a avr 590 and for some reason my bass isnt working.... i have everything set up like the diagrams and i went to the speaker tests and the subwoofer works but while watching tv and playing music there is no sub...

One more thing...I am using the 24fps output feature on the PS3. Would it make any difference if I used the regular 60hz (cinema pulldown)?

edit: I believe the manual said that while the auto lip-sync correction is enabled, further correction can only be made up to ~100ms. But when I manually adjusted it, it let me go up to ~200ms. Sorry for the multiple posts, just trying to provide as many details as I can.

Lip sync has to do with the audio and video frames not matching up correctly, while your issue is most likely an HDMI handshake issue the PS3 is having with your TV as the PS3 generally doesn't have any issues with Denon AVRs. There are a couple options you can try:

(1) First, while the game is playing, disconnect the HDMI cable from the back of the PS3, wait a minute, and then reconnect. This most likely will resolve your problem, although possibly not permanently beyond that single instance. If not, try the next step.

(2) HDMI reset.

1. While all HDMI devices are on, disconnect HDMI cable from TV
2. Turn off power to all devices (not in standby)
3. Disconnect all HDMI feeds at both ends [NOTE where they go back]
4. Wait 2 minutes
5. Reconnect all HDMI cables
6. Apply power to TV, then AVR, then HDMI devices

If the above doesn't work, try swapping out or replacing the HDMI cable to the TV as well as the HDMI device having the issue.

Do you get the same result when watching a BD/DVD? Most likely you have your speaker crossover settings too low. Raise any speaker crossovers currently set below 80hz up to 80hz. Music and TV (unless watching an HD channel with DD 5.1) won't have near as much bass as a movie.

thanks I'm going to try that tonight after I get home from work. If it doesn't work my Yamaha RXV665 is coming in today so I'm going to be messing with that for a bit also.

To be more fair, you really should be comparing the 1910 or 790 to the Yamaha rather than the 590 as the Yamaha will stand out above the 590.

Does anyone know if the Harmony 700 remote (or other suggestion) will do each of the following with a single separate button:

1. turn on the 590, Sony N460 blu-ray player, and Sony HDTV

2. turn on the 590, Time Warner SA8300HD cable box, and Sony HDTV

3. turn on the blu-ray player and Sony HDTV using the 590 passthrough feature

4. turn on the cable box and Sony HDTV using the 590 passthrough feature

I will be using HDMI to hook up everything. Depending on who is watching what, I see a need for all four options. Parents watching news and kids watching Disney channel and SD DVDs will use the pass-through. Movie night (blu-ray and PPV) want to utilize the receiver.

Can't answer the Harmony question specifically although I'm guessing yes as it is a programmable remote.

On the 590 you have the option of setting HDMI pass through to either the LAST HDMI component that was ON before it was placed in Standby or to a specific HDMI component (ie the cable box). So in order to have the choice of either the Sony Blu-Ray or the cable box, you would have to program in to the Harmony to first turn ON the 590, change the HDMI Source to either the Sony Blu-Ray jack or the cable jack depending on which you wanted to pass through, and then turn the 590 OFF (doesn't make much sense).

Perhaps a better option (as there is no video upscaling on the 590) would be to connect the cable box HDMI directly to the TV with an optical cable to the 590 (for surround audio) and then set the 590 HDMI Source setting to the HDMI jack you plug the Sony Blu-Ray in to. This way you can watch TV without turning on the 590 and when you turn on the Sony Blu-Ray (while the 590 is in Standby) it would automatically pass through to the TV.

I'm only comparing them because they were the only available one here that was on sale in Canada. If I was getting US prices for these receivers I would be comparing them. Also the Yamaha this year isn't even that great from what I read. The amplifier section is rated 90W but at 1khz. The Denon is rated continous so I'm not even sure the Yamaha is going to power my speakers better than the Denon. I'm only getting the Yamaha because it has pre-outs for my external amp which I will use to power my fronts.

Also you know whats odd. The Yamaha is a 7.1 receiver (8.5kg) yet it weighs less than the Denon 5.1 AVR590 (9.2kg). So the only reason I'm getting the Yamaha is because it is the cheapest receiver I can find that has pre-outs.

Thanks-

I'm out of town until Friday but I'll give this a shot over the weekend. Is there a specific control to set the standby source? I assumed whatever was my active source when I last had the unit powered up would automatically be passed in standby mode. Not sure about HDMI-CEC features of my TV. It's a 50" 1080p Panny plasma, the model is escaping me at the moment. I really hope I don't have to revert to the split HDMI/optical connections. One of my primary reasons for choosing this AVR was the ability to run everything HDMI with a single link to the TV.

Ah .... yes, the lowest 2010 model Denon w/pre-outs is the $1000 3310/990.


As Jchin suggested ... you would either set the HDMI Source setting to a specific HDMI jack (HDMI3 in your case) or to LAST (if you wanted to revert to the last source used before the AVR is placed into Standby). HDMI-CEC in a Panny is called Viera - Link. Turn it OFF.

There's really no loss in running the DVR HDMI directly to the Panny with optical to the AVR as the AVR does no video upscaling and the best audio a DVR/STB can put out is DD 5.1.

I'd be fine with that if necessary but I'm trying to simplify settings as much as possible for my GF. It would be nice if she didn't have to deal with switching inputs on the TV and just have a single selection to make on the AVR to swap among the DVR, BD, Wii, and computer.

Understood, however, if you do have to resort to that split configuration ... consider a Harmony remote ......

Oh yeah...been saving my pennies for a Harmony One. Problem is that I keep spending it on stuff like the 590, a netbook, and a new Dell Zino for the HT