*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1610/590 owner's thread - Page 65

1. turn on the 590, Sony N460 blu-ray player, and Sony HDTV
Yes, create an activitiy which will turn on everything and change them to the right inputs

2. turn on the 590, Time Warner SA8300HD cable box, and Sony HDTV
Yes, same as above

3. turn on the blu-ray player and Sony HDTV using the 590 passthrough feature
Yes, same as answer 1

4. turn on the cable box and Sony HDTV using the 590 passthrough feature
Yes, you guessed it by now


But I would suggest you avoid using the pass through feature unless you absolutely need it because HDMI pass through consumes power even when in standby. You know, save the planet and all that good stuff

I am running optical cable from my satellite box to the AVR, and connecting the Sat box to Tv using HDMI. So when I watch news or something similar, the AVR is not switched on. But when watching a movie on cable, then the AVR kicks in and sound is output on the speakers.

Pretty easy to configure on the Harmony.

Start off with a Harmony 525 or similar. Upgrade the Harmony one later if you need it, not just because someone else bought it

I have a 525, and it does the job pretty well.

Newbie here, but pertaining to your 3rd paragraph I thought I had read months ago somewhere that if you connect via optical you will lose some of the HD audio? Please don't ask me where, my memory ain't that good. Any input?

Edit: may have got my answer in post 1917 concerning the best cable boxes/satellite HDDVR's can do is 5.1. Correct?

Correct. As cable/sat boxes cannot do HD audio, optical will work with HD channels that use DD 5.1.

I will have all new equipment. I received an Energy RCmini CC today. It is playing quietly going toward a suggested 100 hours of break in on my 15-20 year old Sony's center channel. My 1610, Rc10's, and RCmini's s/b here tomorrow and I will begin breaking them in also.

The situation I need advice on is I just ordered a sub today. I do not currently own one. I expect it to be received several days after the other equipment. Should I wait to hook up my equipment to my TV until all is here or can I go ahead and setup and use my Denon and speakers with and/or without running Batpig's setup. Orrrrrr - can I set it up with the sub before it's been broken in? Thanks for your help.

Shoot, I'm already grinnin, Thanks.

Will this AVR work fine with the Energy Take Clasic 5 pack (rated 100W for satellite speakers) and a BIC 1220 sub? I am worried that there may not be enough power per channel since the speakers are rated higher?

Sorry, lol I posted this before I realized I should open it up to more than just a Denon receiver thread. Thanks for your help though and sorry again.

Eh...I like cool toys. I'll check out some other models though. I like that the One is rechargable and got top ratings. I typically prefer to buy at least a level above what I need right now so I don't have to do it over down the road.

I have the 880 that I got on sale for a good price. Since I bought it I've changed my TV, Cable box, Receiver and added an HD-DVD and a Bluray player and it has never missed a beat. Additions and changes are very easy. Now if I can just program my wife to keep it pointed at the entertainment unit until everything turns off....

eh stupid question but does the denon remote light up? I've had this since Sept and I can't figure it out. But I swear my 1 yr old grabs it and then it lights up.


Also just curious but what volume level (assuming audyssey has ran, dyn. volume off, etc) do you all listen to Blurays at? Sometimes I feel like the sound is being restrained if that makes sense? I tend to watch mine around 25. Anyone go below 20?

I posted this in another thread and just wanted to ask you guys your opinion on here with the Denon AVR590. Also if some of you can post your speakers and their specs I can compare them to mine.

The Denon is rated 75W RMS x 5

I was wondering if this will be alright to drive my Kenwood speakers.

Kenwood 3-way Tower Speaker System JL-929
-12" Cone type Woofer
-5" Cone Type Midrange
-1" Cone Type Tweeter
-8 ohms
Max Input Power - 180 watts
Rate Input Power - 90 Watts
Sensitivity - 92 dB/W at 1m
Frequency Response - 30 Hz to 20,000 Hz
Crossover Frequency - 2000 Hz, 5000 Hz

I'm having a hard time deciding because the Denon AVR590 I got for $350 and the Yamaha was $450 but from what I read the Yamaha isn't as good as the Denon besides for the pre-outs. The Yamaha is only rated 90W at 1Khz to I believe while the Denon is rated at 75W RMS from 20 Hz to 20 Khz at 0.08% THD rated at 8ohms.

So I'm not sure if I should just keep the Denon AVR590 or the Yamaha for $450 which isn't that good of a price compare to the US. The Denon AVR590 was a better deal since $350 is the going rate for the in the US and I got that price in Canada

Like you were told in the other thread .. ignore the speaker power specs. Not to mention, ignore the AVR power specs as well .. how do you know what the "real" power is being put out as I can assure you it's NOT what the MFR says it is, although Denon AVRs are known to benchtest fairly close to their advertised power w/5 channels.

Also, as you were told before, as you have fairly efficient speakers (92db), you won't need as much power to drive them as say someone with a cheap HTIB would need. If the 590 meets your other requirements (ie don't require pre-outs), then it should serve you well.

Don't know about the remote since I use a Harmony but I just checked and my volume was set at -16.5 from watching 9 on Bluray yesterday.

AFAIK, no lighted remote. Perhaps your 1 year old has built up static electricity crawling on the carpet?

Although average listening volume is likely between -30db to -10db, what one person considers too loud is not the case for the next person. When others are around, I listen to BD's at the same as you do, however, when no one is around ... I crank it up closer to 0!

ha ha ok. Though the buttons look like they want to light up.

Ok I think I'm being a wussy w/ my Denon. I'm gonna crank it up into the teens!!

Well since I have 30 days to return both of the receivers I think I'll just test it out and see which one I like.

When I first got the Denon AVR590 a few days ago I hooked it up to my Kenwood speakers and popped in Terminator Salvation blu-ray, I was blown away by it. However the volume was at 0dB which was pretty loud.

Yesterday I just hooked up the Yamaha HTR6260 without using my external amp first and tested TS again and it sounded pretty good also, but then I connected my external amp to the pre-outs and notice a significant improve in the sound. My brother also agreed that it sounded better and full with the external amp. The listening level was at -15dB.

So I'm just going to test the Denon for a week or two and the Yamaha and see which I like better and return the other one. There is one problem with the Denon I had though. I was playing Gran Turismo 5: Prologue the other day and the video and audio kept coming off and on. It did that 4-5 times and I had to turn it off as it was unplayable like that. Anybody else has this issue with their Denon 590

I am having an issue getting sound when I have a Bluray disk in my Samsung BDP1600. On the BDP1600 I have the digital output set to:

Bitstream (Audiophile) - recommended choice if you have an HDMI 1.3 receiver which has Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoding capability.

On the front of the AVR 590 I see the HD Audio lit up in bright blue but I get no sound at all. The video plays fine, just no audio.

Could someone please tell me what I am doing wrong.

Edit: The disk where I don't get any sound is Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince and the audio is Dolby TrueHD. I tried the bluray of Twilight which is DTS-HD and it worked perfectly with sound and the HD Audio on the AVR is lit up. Now I am really confused.

Thanks,
Eric

There is a known issue with some BDPs bitstreaming HD audio to the 590 as noted here. There are a few options you have:

(1) Turn OFF the 590 while playing the BD and then turn it back ON again. Sometimes the audio will resume.

(2) Let the BDP decode the audio (same quality) to PCM.

(3) Send your 590 in to a Denon Authorized Repair Center for the firmware update that fixes this issue.

Just out of curiosity though ... click on the 2310 link in my sig and do the procedure to determine the Main Ver # on your 590 and post back with it. Thanks.

Thank you very much.

Okay, I've only gotten through 40 pages of this thread, so forgive me if this has been covered.

I'll be getting the 590/1610 soon and want to know if my planned setup will work.

HTPC
-HDMI in (will be LPCM for now)
-DVR composite out
-DVR audio out

VCR
-VCR composite in
-VCR audio in
-VCR composite out
-VCR audio out

Wii
-component in
-analog audio in (assignable, right? so either DVD or SAT/CBL)

TV
-HDMI monitor out
-optical audio in


Will this setup let me record any source onto my VCR and HTPC?

edit: I see on page 15 of the manual that I'll only be able to record signals over similar input connections. Does this mean I can only record signals coming over composite?

You will only be able to record the same type audio going in as there is no audio downconversion. So basically analog ---> analog or optical ---> optical. Also, analog audio, composite video, and S-Video jacks are NOT assignable rather only the HDMI and component video and digital audio (HDMI/optical/coax) jacks are assignable. Whatever the label of the analog audio jack you plug in to is the Source Input name you must use to hear audio from that cable.

Thanks JD. I didn't even think about the audio. So in my setup, my HTPC would only be able to record sound and picture from the VCR?

And for the Wii component input, since Component 1 is labeled "DVD", I'd have to use the DVD analog audio input, right?

It would seem so and yes, use the DVD analog audio inputs if you use COMP1 (DVD).

jdsmoothie,

I check my avr and the main ver # is 00.87

Thanks,
Eric

Thank you. I'll add that info to my post.

In an attempt to set my audio sync correctly I wanted to ask you guys if this would work:

When I hook up my PS3 directly to my TV, the audio/video is in sync. So if I send audio from the PS3 to the 590 via optical, I'll have sound coming from both the TV and my sound system. Then I just adjust the audio delay until there is no echo between the two sources. Then I would disconnect the optical and put the HDMI from the PS3 back to the receiver.


Does it matter if I bitstream to one source and use LPCM to the other? Or should I use the same method to both the TV and the receiver?

Ok just got done watching Quantum of Solace cranked to 19 and wowzaa. Sooo crystal clear sounding and the bass was nice n' tight. Didn't feel the need to go up any higher. Perfect clarity and no volume surfing.