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post #1981 of 5128
Yeah...unfortunately by switching the source to the radio, you're killing the HDMI feed to the tv and the AVR is handling the radio.


I'm pretty sure that's the deal, unless someone else can chime in if I'm mistaken.
post #1982 of 5128
hmm..

But I still feel that having a OSD on the TV for radio is redundant though...
post #1983 of 5128
Quote:
Originally Posted by oland View Post

Yeah...unfortunately by switching the source to the radio, you're killing the HDMI feed to the tv and the AVR is handling the radio.


I'm pretty sure that's the deal, unless someone else can chime in if I'm mistaken.

If STB would allow it, one can connect HDMI from cable box to TV and Optical from cable box to receiver.
post #1984 of 5128
I've heard it said and I read on page 44 of the manual: It works but not with a HDMI input signal. You would have to connect your Sat/TV/Cable via component for example.


Edit: Check out post 1303 for a work around.
post #1985 of 5128
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Originally Posted by AnfieldKnight View Post

hmm..

But I still feel that having a OSD on the TV for radio is redundant though...


Well if you want to leave your TV on (with no video feed) while you listen to the radio, you can turn off the OSD while on the "TUNER" source.
post #1986 of 5128
Up to page 41 of this thread. Still learning new stuff, cool!
post #1987 of 5128
Hi All! First let me start out by asking to not shoot me Ive searched for hours and cant seem to find a solution or work around. I have a H20 from Directv contected to the 1610 via HDMI. When I turn them on all I get is intermittent sound and no picture. If I play with directv buy changing the channels sometimes I can get the picture and the sound but MOST of the time I wont get anything but about 2 sec of sound then 20 sec of silence then it cycles that again and again. In the meantime Ive ran the HDMI from the directv box to the tv and the optical cable to the 1610. Ive read about problems with the H22/23 but nothing about actually getting it to work thru HDMI and the 1610.. Again please dont shoot me if its been covered just point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance!!!
post #1988 of 5128
What you are experiencing is an HDMI handshake problem which is common between cable/sat boxes and AVRs in general. Do the HDMI Reset procedure listed here and see if that doesn't solve your issue. And if not, you still have the current work around (HDMI direct to TV with optical to AVR) with no lose in either video or audio quality, not too mention you gain an extra HDMI jack.
post #1989 of 5128
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Originally Posted by technotica View Post

Very Disappointed. We just received our 1610 yesterday but today we finally had a chance to set it up today. Hooked up all the speakers to run the audyssey setup and it will not detect the microphone.

When we first hooked it up we realized we had swapped the right front with the right rear but the mic was detected. We switched them, started the setup again and now the mic is not detected.

We ordered through Electronics-Expo and would rather not incur a hefty shipping fee to send it back. Suggestions?

Due to all of the new owners here it seems like the experts have missed your question (Or maybe don't have an answer?). But when I got stuck in my setup (Different situation than yours) I took jdsmoothie's advice and reset the microprocessor and started over. Then everything worked for me. Good luck.
post #1990 of 5128
Yep .. just missed it. Spot on Bob.

technotica -
Reset the Microprocessor (p. 57) and make sure the mic is seated snuggly into the mic jack when doing AUTO SETUP again.
post #1991 of 5128
Thanks for getting back to me. I considered resetting the microprocessor, but decided to hold off for a day to see if anyone had anything to suggest.

I'll give it a shot tonight.
post #1992 of 5128
If the reset doesn't resolve the problem, it could be a defective mic. Take it into a Best Buy store and they should replace it for you (regardless of whether you bought the AVR there or not).
post #1993 of 5128
ive got an issue I am trying to figure out. I have the new ps3 120gb. I just got the new denon 1610 and have the ps3 hooked up to the receiver using hdmi and the receiver hooked up to the tv through hdmi. I am having issues to get the sound working the way i want to. I kept going into sound settings to change the specific sound modes to hear the tones in the xmb and have trouble figuring out which ones to turn on and off. My speakers are older bose acoustimass 10 speakers and the tv is an sony 55xbr8. when I play call of duty mw2 i dont hear the sound at all. i just dont know what I should be doing to get the sound to work in the xmb screen and then to work on the video game.
post #1994 of 5128
Thread Starter 
honestly, it shouldn't be that complicated! I just plug in my PS3, do an "auto detect" so it sets up all the audio and video options, and I get sound on everything

I have no idea how you can be getting sound on the XMB and not games...
post #1995 of 5128
i was reading somewhere to use bitstream in system settings instead of lpcm. I will try that tonight.
post #1996 of 5128
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

What you are experiencing is an HDMI handshake problem which is common between cable/sat boxes and AVRs in general. Do the HDMI Reset procedure listed here and see if that doesn't solve your issue. And if not, you still have the current work around (HDMI direct to TV with optical to AVR) with no lose in either video or audio quality, not too mention you gain an extra HDMI jack.

Thanks for the direction! I tried those instructions step by step but no luck. Same result Any other suggestions?
Here is what I tired:
HDMI reset.

1. While all HDMI devices are on, disconnect HDMI cable from TV
2. Turn off power to all devices (not in standby)
3. Disconnect all HDMI feeds at both ends [NOTE where they go back]
4. Wait 2 minutes
5. Reconnect all HDMI cables
6. Apply power to TV, then AVR, then PS3
post #1997 of 5128
Generally DirecTV boxes don't have any issues with the AVR. Have you tried one of the other 2 HDMI jacks? If still no joy, at least you have the work around.
post #1998 of 5128
So I've had some time playing with it tonight and got everything mostly set up. When I go into standby mode it passes the video but not audio from my Cox DVR (Moto). I tried both specifying the HMDI input for standby and using the "last" option...neither worked for audio. The only other HDMI device (Sony BD) I currently have hooked up work just fine. I even ried swapping the HDMI inputs on the back of the 590 with the same result...BD passes through just fine but no audio from the DVR. It's looking like something related to handshake issues with the DVR as best I can tell but I have no idea why it would play the audio fine through the AVR but not pass to the TV. Any ideas?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post


As Jchin suggested ... you would either set the HDMI Source setting to a specific HDMI jack (HDMI3 in your case) or to LAST (if you wanted to revert to the last source used before the AVR is placed into Standby). HDMI-CEC in a Panny is called Viera - Link. Turn it OFF.

There's really no loss in running the DVR HDMI directly to the Panny with optical to the AVR as the AVR does no video upscaling and the best audio a DVR/STB can put out is DD 5.1.
post #1999 of 5128
Has anyone extended their mic??? How did you do it? Mine will not reach too many listening spots!
post #2000 of 5128
Got a AVR 1610 for christmas, it's world better than the old Sony HTIB we had before. I'm still shopping for a subwoofer. Anyways...

Have a Comcast HD DVR box that has a programmable remote, does anyone know what code will make it work with the AVR 1610 in Aux mode?
The volume control works in cable mode. Pressing ALL ON only turns on the TV and cable STB, but pressing ALL ON again will turn everything off. Did I miss a setting somewhere or is this just some HDMI wierdness?
post #2001 of 5128
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Originally Posted by stanjk3 View Post

Got a AVR 1610 for christmas, it's world better than the old Sony HTIB we had before. I'm still shopping for a subwoofer. Anyways...

Have a Comcast HD DVR box that has a programmable remote, does anyone know what code will make it work with the AVR 1610 in Aux mode?
The volume control works in cable mode. Pressing ALL ON only turns on the TV and cable STB, but pressing ALL ON again will turn everything off. Did I miss a setting somewhere or is this just some HDMI wierdness?

Don't know what model remote you have but try codes 1104 and 1360.
post #2002 of 5128
Quote:
Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Don't know what model remote you have but try codes 1104 and 1360.

Tried both, neither worked.
STB is made by Motorola. There's no model # on the remote, I'm assuming they use the same remote for this brand/type of STB. IIRC the digital non-HD box we had before also used the same remote.

Guess I'll have to email Comcast.
post #2003 of 5128
Hi, i hope someone can help me with my problem. I have a 1610 connected with a DVB-T receiver, a PS3, an Xtreamer media player ( all of them using HDMI ), a Wii using component and an FM antenna. The 6 ohm speakers are from an old LG surround Home Theater. The Denon is connected to a Samsung 46" lcd TV.

The problem is that, randomly, my TV turns off and on by itself: the stanby led lightens up and then after like 20 seconds the image reappears. It can happen while switching between devices or simply when watching a movie or playing. As this behaviour didn't happen when they where connected directly to the TV it must be something related to the Denon. I already tried resetting the microprocessor and swapping the HDMI cables but nothing changed.
I'm not an expert in this field, so i don't know if a possible bad cable can be the cause of this; i know there might be handshake problems for audio and video, but the question is that the tv actually turns off, and the HDMI control on the Denon is disabled....

If someone can suggest me other things to try before considering the unit defective i'd be very grateful.
post #2004 of 5128
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanjk3 View Post

Tried both, neither worked.
STB is made by Motorola. There's no model # on the remote, I'm assuming they use the same remote for this brand/type of STB. IIRC the digital non-HD box we had before also used the same remote.

Guess I'll have to email Comcast.

Sorry that didn't work for you. Here is a thread found with a similar problem (hope this helps).
If all else fails then purchase a universal remote like a Harmony.
post #2005 of 5128
Quote:
Originally Posted by TH3_FRB View Post

It's looking like something related to handshake issues with the DVR as best I can tell but I have no idea why it would play the audio fine through the AVR but not pass to the TV. Any ideas?

Turn HDMI-CEC to OFF on your TV. If still no joy then do the 590 Reset the microprocessor procedure (p. 57).
post #2006 of 5128
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Originally Posted by padgettl View Post

Has anyone extended their mic??? How did you do it? Mine will not reach too many listening spots!

Really? Are you trying to measure in the next room? That mic cord is 25' in length and the average distance from the couch to the TV is 10'-15'?

If you really need an extension you can get a 3.5mm extension cable in numerous places including Radio Shack.
post #2007 of 5128
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve65 View Post

If someone can suggest me other things to try before considering the unit defective i'd be very grateful.

Like I suggested to the other guy, turn the HDMI-CEC setting to OFF on your TV (Samsung - Anynet+, Panasonic - Viera Link, Sharp - Aqous Link, Sony - Bravia Link). Also, give the HDMI Reset procedure below a try:

1. While all HDMI devices are on, disconnect HDMI cable from TV
2. Turn off power to all devices (not in standby; also unlug your TV for a few minutes so it resets)
3. Disconnect all HDMI feeds at both ends [NOTE where they go back]
4. Wait 2 minutes
5. Reconnect all HDMI cables
6. Plug the TV back in, apply power to TV, then AVR, then HDMI component
post #2008 of 5128
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanjk3 View Post

Guess I'll have to email Comcast.

It's been awhile that anyone has asked about this, however, IIRC, there was no joy, rather as JChin suggested, your best bet is a Harmony (or other universal) remote.
post #2009 of 5128
I have had my Denon 590 for awhile and not had many issues with it. I do have a question though.

I have my HTPC hooked up via HDMI from an ATI 4350. If I am watching a movie I can get the computer to pass a DTS or DD signal and things like Multi EQ /Dyn EQ work fine. But anything that has to pass just Multi Channel like Hulu or iTunes etc... Dyn EQ will not work, it just says not available.

The odd thing is that Dyn EQ works just fine on my old PS3 which just pass Multi Channel too. Am I missing something?
post #2010 of 5128
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

DenonJeff (Director Product Development) confirmed that firmware updates are being developed for the 2010 AVR models which have the Samsung/LG Blu-Ray audio bitstreaming and HDMI-CEC issues. The 2310CI update is already available. The 1610/590 update should be available soon at Authorized Repair Centers.

I could not find any statements or upgrades on the Denon website. I, too, am having Samsung Blu-Ray to Denon AVR1610 issues (ie: there is no HD-audio) sound and I have to set the Blu-Ray to PCM to listen to the DTS HD audio track.

Thanks
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