*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1610/590 owner's thread - Page 12

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I'm new with setting up receivers so pardon my ignorance. I'm setting up my 1610 with the speakers that I have. I have 2 front, 2 sorround, 1 center and 1 subwoofer. Why is there another set of front speakers terminals in the receiver? Also why is the subwoofer terminal an rca cable terminal? How can I connect the two wires of my sub to the receiver? Thanks in advance!
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If you read the Manual, I think Page 10, the extra terminals can be connected through a Power Amp. to Back Surrounds and/or Front Height Speakers. It gives an option you can add later.

which q were you addressing? (i have not purchased either unit yet)

Sorry I used the wrong quote.

I have been following this forum for some time now and I have read a lot of good advice. But it seems like it my time to post a message.

I just put together a home theatre system but I am having some problems. Here is what I have: Samsung LN46B650, Denon 1610, Energy Take Classic and Energy ESW-V8 Subwoofer. Connect to Comcast Motorola DCH-3416 via HDMI cables.

I posted my Problem on the Denon Online support and I am not sure about their answer. I was hoping that someone on this forum could give me some better advice

Robert

My Question to Denon: I just purchased and avr-1610. It is connected to Samsung ln46b650 via HDMI 1.3b cable. The input cable box is a Motorola DCH3416 connected via HDMI 1.3b cable. The input cable box is physically connected to HDMI3 on the back of the receiver and I have assigned cbl/sat = HDMI3, HDMI control = ON, HDMI audio out = Amp, standby = hdmi3, poweroff control = off. (also tried poweroff control = yes). Everything works fine when avr is ON, when AVR is put in standby only the video is displayed, NO SOUND.
Also, the receiver audio in not in sync with the TV.
Receiver setting- lip sync = ON
The audio seems to be ahead of the video.

DENON's Response: Good Afternoon Robert,
There is no real feature on the receiver that allows the video and audio to pass through when the receiver is on standby. Usually it will work when you have the HDMI control feature on the receiver is turned on, but it is not designed for this function.

The video is slower than audio and so you can experience lip-sync issues. I recommend adjusting the audio delay as described on page 43 of the manual. (The auto lip-sync is a specification of HDMI 1.3 and 1.3a so the source must also be this version of HDMI, which cable boxes are not).

i will not allow anybody other than microsoft tell me i need to buy better stuff as a result of buying their stuff.

i thought the new yamahas (i have one and it does) denons and onkyos can all pass video and audio while in standby?

My HDMI control is set correctly and lets video pass through but no audio. Neither will the TV audio work. All this while in standby.
I altered the settings for "TV Audio" but no luck.

I completely agree, that is why I asked the question in this forum. We all know from asking any Product support organization a question there are level 1 tech's, lever 2 tech's and level 3 tech's, some know more than others. I will post a reply on Denon's site asking them your "Standby Source" comment.

Thanks

I just connected a Component cable. There's really no difference in video quality, IMO, between Component and HDMI, at least for my HD PVR and its less flaky (more efficient). I would rather not have the Receiver on SB, uses less power.

Hit the STD button... I have the same problem when my receiver defaults to Stereo... like the entire midrange dissapears and I can only hear quiet bass and really high treble... I hit the surround or STD button on the remote (near bottom left) and the sound comes back just fine!

I bought a speaker cable with rca plug but audyssey cannot detect my subwoofer. Do you think my subwoofer is too old for the receiver?

Yah that won't work. Your just going to need to buy a new subwoofer that has a Low-Level Input (RCA Connection).

Has anybody watched AKIRA on BD with the 5.1 TrueHD 192khz/24bit Japanese track? Whenever I choose that audio option, Audyssey disables itself and hitting the MultEQ button displays "Not Available". With all other audio tracks, Audyssey work fine.

I put in Dark Knight and Audyssey stays enabled with the TrueHD track. Does that mean this receiver doesn't recognize the 192khz audio? I'm really stumped.

Ps: I'm using the Energy Take Classic 5.1 speakers with the 590 and a Sony S350 BD Player.

oh wow these things have to detect your sub to propertly set things up? and that'd require me spending another $100+ for a sub. a/v receiver just got tossed as a possible upgrade.

No, you do not have to have a sub in your system. When you run the automatic setup, it will know that a sub is not there and configure things properly with just the speakers you have.

kinda kills an action scene though, no?

I assume the AVR-590 decodes Audio over HDMI and doesn't just pass it through to the TV? I'm thinking of getting this to replace an Onkyo TX-SR504 Receiver.

It would be great to finally have everything routed through my Receiver, not to mention getting rid of all the Optical Cables.

Well you are going to love this. I posted this question on DENON's Online support:

"What does the specific option in the menu for "Standby Source" in the HDMI Setup menu do? The manual says "There is no real feature on the receiver that allows the video and audio to pass through when the receiver is on standby. Usually it will work when you have the HDMI control feature on the receiver is turned on, but it is not designed for this function". I assumed the input signal was both video and audio."

DENON's response: "The AVR-1610 has "HDMI Control" when it is set to "ON" the audio/video from the last source will pass thru."

BTW, this response was from a different tech. Sooooo I am not sure what DENONS position is on this topic. I can only assume I am just having one of those flaky HDMI issues.

Even my 790 only allows Video to pass through but no audio.

Awww that's not good! That means the 192/24 audio track sounds worse than the 48khz English dub track Right now, with Audyssey disabled, there's much less bass. I guess I can increase the sub level a bit just for this movie. Dark Knight with TrueHD + Audyssey sounds great though! I'm pretty happy with the 590 in general

I went ahead and bought the 590, even though nobody responded to my post post comparing it to my Sony, and I am impressed that a low priced receiver can sound so much better than my higher priced(at the time) Sony.

Anyway back to Dr Pepper's problem. I was noticing, when messing with the menu, there is an input signal strength and the default is at zero. Go into the receiver's menue for the source that is being inputted and check the level. I believe the strength can be raised or lowered by 12db. YOu might want to check to see if it has been changed from the default of 0. You can increase the level and see if it helps the problem. BTW, I have the level increased +5 for my cable box, since the volume from my cable provider has always been weak.
Also, what color is the light under the Audyssey marking on the front of the receiver? WHen mine is red, the sound is perfect. When the light is green it cuts the sound considerably.


Gary

Has anyone been able to pass video and audio through while in standby with the 590/1610? Again I really wanted it to be able to do this (I have not purchased it yet) since I will be connecting everything by hdmi and don't want to have to have the receiver on all the time (it will be hooked up to the main tv in my house). Thx all for any responses

It worked when I first hooked everything up, but then it got "confused" and started sending audio through the TV even when the receiver was on with the audio option set to Amp. So I set HDMI control to Off and am very happy listening through the receiver all the time.

I read that changing settings such as the channel levels will not interfere with the multiEQ or DynEQ functions, is this true? Whenever I make a change like that, on the display, the border around the audyssey/eq info disappears. Is this just to announce that you have changed a setting from the auto configuration?

Thanks