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post #5041 of 5195
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especially not in an outdoor theater....
post #5042 of 5195
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Originally Posted by Adult Beverage View Post

How sensitive are HDMI inputs/outputs? I have the 590 and it's been working great for the past several years. I have a DVR, Bluray player and Xbox hooked up to the three HDMI inputs. HDMI out goes to a splitter for the TV and projector. Been using a harmony remote to controll all the activities. The other day the circuit breaker the 590 was on got tripped by something I was doing in the other room. Kids were watching TV while 590 was on standby passing signal through. Afterwards, the 590 didn't seem to send the DVR to the TV, but the Bluray and Xbox would. I hooked the TV to DVR directly and moved on since didn't have time to troubleshoot further. Last night the Bluray signal wouldn't go through the 590 either. Switched the Bluray cable to Xbox input and it worked. Hoping someone has had a similar problem/fix before I start dismantling system to troubleshoot. Could the breaker tripping have damaged the 590 even while on surge protector?

This just happened to me too!! But I have 3 things that are affected. We had a bad rain storm here with lightning the other day when I wasn't home. I have a AVR-1610, PS3, Comcast/ Xfinity cable box and a LGpk550 Plasma TV. I tried turning on Tv as usual but all it did was flash the "No signal" box across the screen. Well after I performed all my amateur diagnostics on everything like checking all HDMI inputs and outputs on everything, swapping cable boxes from the bedroom Etc. The conclusion is the cable box doesn't work anymore, the reciever inputs do not work, the only input on the TV that works is HDMI3. The PS3 somehow rebooted itself. So it looks like I got some issues mad.gif
post #5043 of 5195
^^
Yet, another example of why it's a good idea to have a certified electrician install a whole home surge protector box to the outside power panel.

http://www.tech-faq.com/whole-house-surge-protector.html
post #5044 of 5195
Or at least use a decent surge/UPS like the APC ones you can get for not too much at Costco or Sams Club. All of the outlets on those puppies have surge protection. I have my AVR and cable box on one now and have everything else on surge suppression strips plugged into the surge suppression side. The other benefit is having plenty of jacks behind the HT cabinet without having to use more power strips or one of those 6 outlet adapter plates. I have one of those of the surge suppression variety on the "great room" set-up and another APC in the office that runs the computer, Time Capsule, security system router and cable modem for even more uptime during the short intermittent power disruptions that we have in my neck of the woods. I only have the cable box on the UPS so I don't loose the complete guide for 24 hours every time the power glitches for under a second. I certainly don't care if the cable company boxes get zapped.

I have considered a whole house suppressor and/or a whole house UPS and generator. I doubt the HOA would allow any of it, but wait I am the association President so maybe I can get away with it ;-)
post #5045 of 5195
There's nothing out there that will protect against a lightning strike. The best solution is to get a surge protector with a connected equipment warranty.
post #5046 of 5195
Hi I am using a Denon 590 receiver as stereo receiver with jbl speakers ES90 without subwoffer i get very low bass what could i do

Thanks
post #5047 of 5195
The best thing you can do is to add a sub woofer, otherwise, have you run AUTO SETUP to ensure the LFE (0.1) is redirected to the JBL speakers?
post #5048 of 5195
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The best thing you can do is to add a sub woofer, otherwise, have you run AUTO SETUP to ensure the LFE (0.1) is redirected to the JBL speakers?

yes i do, i run audisey setup, i think in that case is better a stereo receiver for me
post #5049 of 5195
One way to increase bass response is to set Audyssey Dyn EQ to OFF and use the Tone Control settings (p. 41 in Owner's manual). Also, if you recently acquired the 590, it may take a few weeks to adjust to what a properly configured bass response sounds like (ie. shouldn't be boomy bass as is often the case with older receivers).
post #5050 of 5195
Hi guys, I don't know if this has been already answered but I got a really annoying thing with my AVR 1610 :

Every time it loses HDMI connection, it's switching back to "TV" Input (a coaxial connection), which is really annoying, especially since I have my new sony BDP-S790 player, hooked up both to my TV and the amplifier for the sound :

Every time I'm pausing, skipping a chapter, etc... It's switching back to "tv".

Any clues on how to fix this ?
post #5051 of 5195
^^
Try setting the HDMI-CEC feature of the TV to OFF (eg. Anynet+, BraviaSync, VieraLink, etc.).
post #5052 of 5195
Thanks for the quick answer. I'll try this especially since I have an harmony remote, so CEC is no biggie for me.

Actually : I tried disabling "Simplink" : now skipping chapters, it's staying on HDMI, but when I pause and press play it goes to TV and then back to HDMI 2 times and gets activated. That's odd
post #5053 of 5195
Another thought is that the XX10 models have issues with some LG and Sony BDPs which was resolved with a firmware update. Check with any local authorized repair centers to see if they have the capability to update the firmware on the 1610, although they'll likely charge you for it as it's probably out of warranty.
post #5054 of 5195
Ok, I'm out of luck then since I have both an LG TV and a Sony BDP.

Thanks for the answers. wink.gif


Edit : Actually I turned off CEC functions on the BDP too and now everything seems to be back to normal wink.gif
Edited by sokh1985 - 6/28/12 at 9:40am
post #5055 of 5195
i have a 590 and when i turn it off or turn the volume way down it bongs loudly threw the speakers. very annoying. how do i fix this?
post #5056 of 5195
Never heard of a "bong" sound before. Did it just start? Did anything change in your setup if it just started recently? Perhaps try resetting the microprocessor (p. 57 OM), otherwise perhaps repair.
post #5057 of 5195
its always done it you get use to it,but id like it to quit. i do have my rear speakers on a wireless rock fish reciever. ill try the reset it only does it once almost like its a warning that something was left on or on mute it does it then to.other than that its great and i love it.
post #5058 of 5195
Before resetting the microprocessor, try removing the rocketfish transmitter and see if the same issue remains. If yes, then try the reset, otherwise, if still no joy, the unit likely needs to be repaired if still covered by warranty.
post #5059 of 5195
First off hello to all from a newbie. Now that the formalities are out of the way, here is my issue. Just moved and finally got around to setting up the 590 again. Everything was working fine after setup until I came back in the room a couple of minutes later and my son was playing with my Harmony One remote. Anyway the issue I'm having now is that no matter if I'm trying to watch cable or watch a movie my remote function is locked out using either the Harmony One or the Denon Remote. When I look at the HDMI 1 input on the TV it shows either the DVR or the DVD instead of the AV-590. It almost seems like the signal from either component is bypassing through the 590 which locks out all remote function on the 590. When I run the Wii which is hooked up through the VCR component jacks everything works fine, I have complete control of the 590 via the remotes. I've spent the last 4 hours trying to figure out what happened. Somehow I think my son screwed up one of the settings but can figure out what. I tried a micro processor reset with no joy. Any help or info you all could provide would be greatly appreciated.

TV - Sharp LC70C6400U

The following are the 2 components I'm running via HDMI through the 590

DVR - Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300
LG blue ray DVD player

Thanks
Scott
post #5060 of 5195
This is one reason why some parents will purchase a cheap $10 remote for a child to use exclusively so as not to mess with the primary remote. Just a thought. Try cycling the HDMI Control setting to ON, then OFF. Power OFF the AVR and then power it ON again. If still no joy, unplug the AVR for about 10 minutes and then power on again with another microprocessor reset, ensuring not to release the buttons for at least 4-5 seconds.
post #5061 of 5195
Hey jdsmoothie and batpig,

Long time since I've been here and of course I return with a problem. It appears my 1610's out HDMI port (and possibly the 3 in HDMI ports as well) have gone kaput. Is there anything I can do short of sending off to Denon for repairs? I switched out HDMI cables and went directly into my tv and all worked well, but trying to go through the AVR gets me no picture or sound. Any help?
post #5062 of 5195
You can try doing a microprocessor reset (p. 57), otherwise repair is likely your best option. If the unit is beyond the 2 year warranty, and you purchased with a credit card, check with the card provider as some will add a 3rd year to the warranty (Amex does this for sure). Note however, that out of warranty repairs are likely to cost at least $200 so you would likely be better served investing in a newer model. The new 1613 now includes networking.
post #5063 of 5195
Thanks jd,

How much they running?
post #5064 of 5195
MSRP $399, but give either AVS sales or Electronics Expo a "call" to find out their street price.
post #5065 of 5195
I got a new TV recently (LG 47LM7600) and have wasted countless hours trying to get it set up correctly with my PS3 (fat) and Denon AVR-1610 and 2.1 speakers. My initial setup had PS3 HDMI going into Denon (where audio was processed), and then Denon HDMI out going into TV.

Unfortunately, I noticed audio sync problems with certain Blurays (audio came too early). I tried upgrading all my HDMI cables to v1.4 and ensuring that audio sync was enabled on both the Denon and TV, but it didn't help. I could make the issue better by manually introducing a 100ms delay on the Denon, but I didn't like that approach because that delay wasn't needed for all content. I eventually narrowed the issue down to playing 24p content that was output at native framerate from PS3 to TV. In other words, f I disabled 24p output the audio sync issues went away. They also went away when I tried "game" mode on the TV. But I wasn't happy with either of those approaches so my search continued...

Today I tried plugged the PS3 directly into the TV via HDMI and then connecting the TV's optical out to the Denon. I eventually got it working, and it seemed to fix the audio sync issue! smile.gif

But now for some reason the intro DTS-HD and THX sequences on the Terminator 2 Bluray are entirely silent. The audio in the movie itself is fine.

As an experiment, I tried enabling the TV speaker and the DTS-HD/THX intro sequence sounds came back. So the signal is definitely getting to the TV correctly and the TV is able to process it. But when the TV speaker is turned off (which enables the optical out on the TV), the Denon doesn't seem to get that one very specific part of the audio. BTW, that portion of the audio played fine through the Denon with my initial setup (PS3 -> Denon -> TV), but in that case I was just using HDMI.

On the TVs optical out menu you can choose between "Auto" and "PCM", and I've tried both. I've also tried messing with the Denon input/decode modes (tried both set to "Auto", also tried explicitly setting "Dig" and "PCM" with the TV set to output "PCM"). Nothing made a difference. If it helps, on the Denon display it shows no audio format text until after the THX sequence has ended, and then it displays "Dig" and "PCM".

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
post #5066 of 5195
In addition to the PS3(HDMI) to the TV, also connect PS3(optical) to the AVR and have primary PS3 audio set to the optical cable with the sound set to "bitstream" vice "PCM".
post #5067 of 5195
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

In addition to the PS3(HDMI) to the TV, also connect PS3(optical) to the AVR and have primary PS3 audio set to the optical cable with the sound set to "bitstream" vice "PCM".

Wouldn't I then end up with the original audio sync issues? Unless you think that the PS3/TV hookup will be able to sync audio in a way that the Denon/TV hookup couldn't?

Also, what do you mean by "bitstream vice PCM"?
post #5068 of 5195
There's an issue with your current configuration of PS3(HDMI) to the AVR so try other configurations to include what I suggested as well as both HDMI and optical to the AVR with audio being passed through the optical to see if either configuration resolves your issue. Also, the PS3 can be set to decode the audio (LPCM) or it can simply pass the audio to the AVR to decode (bitstream). This is actually a 3rd configuration you can try with just the PS3 (HDMI) connected to the AVR, change the setting from either bitstream or LPCM to the other setting. Although when using HDMI, either setting will result in the same audio quality, when using an optical cable for audio, it can only pass PCM 2.0 when set to LPCM which is why you want to set it to Bitstream when using optical.

PS3: Video Setting --> BD/DVD Audio Output (HDMI) - Linear PCM or Bitstream
PS3: Video Setting --> BD/DVD Audio Output (Optical) - Bitstream


Also, on another note, set the PS3 "Deep Color Output" setting to OFF.
post #5069 of 5195
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

There's an issue with your current configuration of PS3(HDMI) to the AVR so try other configurations to include what I suggested as well as both HDMI and optical to the AVR with audio being passed through the optical to see if either configuration resolves your issue. Also, the PS3 can be set to decode the audio (LPCM) or it can simply pass the audio to the AVR to decode (bitstream). This is actually a 3rd configuration you can try with just the PS3 (HDMI) connected to the AVR, change the setting from either bitstream or LPCM to the other setting. Although when using HDMI, either setting will result in the same audio quality, when using an optical cable for audio, it can only pass PCM 2.0 when set to LPCM which is why you want to set it to Bitstream when using optical.
PS3: Video Setting --> BD/DVD Audio Output (HDMI) - Linear PCM or Bitstream
PS3: Video Setting --> BD/DVD Audio Output (Optical) - Bitstream
Also, on another note, set the PS3 "Deep Color Output" setting to OFF.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try all those combinations tonight.
post #5070 of 5195
Well I did try all the various combinations outlined above and none of them kept the audio in sync, unfortunately.

So I went back to the approach which synced audio correctly: PS3 -> (hdmi) -> TV -> (optical out) -> Denon
After a bit more fussing with the audio settings on the PS3 I eventually got the THX sound to come through as well smile.gif
I think the key was reconfiguring the supported audio types on the PS3 (which turned out to be just PCM for the communication with the TV), and then setting the HDMI audio out to be PCM.

JDSmoothie, your advice helped me understand this stuff enough to make more targeted changes, so thanks again for the help!
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