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post #5131 of 5185
^^
You would be much better served posting your question in the Subwoofer forum ....

http://www.avsforum.com/f/113/subwoofers-bass-and-transducers
post #5132 of 5185
Ok, thanks.
post #5133 of 5185
I'll post a current issue I have discovered with my AVR-590 here in case someone else has the same problem with their AVR:


My Denon AVR-590 no longer applies any Audyssey processing to HDMI 5.1 PCM "Multi-Channel-In" Sources. I first noticed this when I was switching between the Stereo and 5.1 setting in the Windows Speaker Configuration Menu. I could press any Audyssey button on the Denon remote and the Denon AVR front panel would indicate that Audyssey was engaged, yet the sound from the speakers would not change in any way. I then tried a Blu-Ray in my stand-alone Blu-ray player that was also sending a PCM 5.1 "Multi Channel In" signal to the receiver. The receiver did not apply Audyssey, Dynamic EQ, or Dynamic Volume to it either!

This seems to be related to another issue I was experiencing with my Denon AVR while playing Blu-Rays in my Blu-Ray Player- Sometimes the HD audio formats (DTS-HD/ Dolby TrueHD) would not play. The blue light on the front panel of the AVR would be illuminated indicating the presence of an HD audio format, but no sound would play. I'd have to switch the audio track on the Blu-Ray a few times before the HD audio would play.

The reason I never noticed Audyssey not functioning on BluRays (with PCM playback) is that my Blu-Ray player was configured to Bitstream for Dolby and PCM for only DTS (as part of a workaround for the aforementioned HD audio problem). No wonder only half of the movies I watch sound excellent!

Since I verified two input sources that are behaving the same way, I am confident that the AVR is bad.

I also performed several microprocessor resets and soft restarts on the AVR and those did not resolve my issue.

I just ordered a new AVR to replace this malfunctioning 4-year old Denon AVR-590.
post #5134 of 5185
Hi guys,

I have a noobish question.

I understand the AVR 1610 will support 3D. If that is the case, can I run HDMI from Blu ray to TV and then send audio to AVR using ARC?

Connections will be like this.

3D Blu Ray player <----> TV HDM1 | TV HDMI2 <---ARC----> Denon AVR

Will this setup work? Can anyone confirm?

Both TV and BDP will be HDMI 1.4 3D capable.
post #5135 of 5185
Thread Starter 
The 1610 does NOT support 3D. Unfortunately the connexion you describe will limit you to a 2ch stereo downmix. Multich audio will not pass through the tv via ARC. Rather, what you should do is get a dual HDMI output player and run one HDMI straight to the tv for 3D video and the other to the receiver for HD audio.
post #5136 of 5185
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Originally Posted by fullerms View Post

Hi guys,

I have a noobish question.

I understand the AVR 1610 will support 3D. If that is the case, can I run HDMI from Blu ray to TV and then send audio to AVR using ARC?

Connections will be like this.

3D Blu Ray player <----> TV HDM1 | TV HDMI2 <---ARC----> Denon AVR

Will this setup work? Can anyone confirm?

Both TV and BDP will be HDMI 1.4 3D capable.

The 1610 is only HDMI 1.3 and although will pass 720p 3D (eg. PS3 games and cable/sat box 3D), as batpig notes, only an HDMI 1.4 AVR will pass full 1080p 3D from a Blu Ray player.
post #5137 of 5185
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The 1610 is only HDMI 1.3 and although will pass 720p 3D (eg. PS3 games and cable/sat box 3D), as batpig notes, only an HDMI 1.4 AVR will pass full 1080p 3D from a Blu Ray player.

Thanks for the response JD. How about the Audio. Will the arrangement I have illustrated work?
post #5138 of 5185
Sorry, overlooked the ARC requirement, but no, again only HDMI 1.4 will support ARC so your best configuration would be BDP video to the TV with BDP audio to the 1610. If not a dual HDMI BDP, then connect an optical cable from the BDP to the 1610.
post #5139 of 5185
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by fullerms View Post

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The 1610 is only HDMI 1.3 and although will pass 720p 3D (eg. PS3 games and cable/sat box 3D), as batpig notes, only an HDMI 1.4 AVR will pass full 1080p 3D from a Blu Ray player.

Thanks for the response JD. How about the Audio. Will the arrangement I have illustrated work?

So what, my response was chopped liver? You didn't think my info was solid?
post #5140 of 5185
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

So what, my response was chopped liver? You didn't think my info was solid?

So sorry Batpig. I was browsing on mobile and did not see your response. It was unintentional, my apologies.

Already have a BDP player with a single HDMI output, may not be able to justify a new Dual HDMI one. Will a HDMI splitter solve the issue?

Merry Christmas btw.
post #5141 of 5185
No, an HDMI splitter will not work unless it is one of the more expensive splitters > $100. Simply connect the HDMI from the BDP to the TV and optical from the BDP to the AVR and call it a day, unless of course you're interested in a networking model as the new E300 (current successor to the 1610) is both HDMI 1.4 and networking.
post #5142 of 5185
I have a 1610 and I'm quite happy with it except maybe for the fact that it isn't overly intuitive to set up and I know nothing whatsoever about advanced audio. So I look to this forum for help:

Today I connected another unit to it, a QED Bluetooth receiver to play sound from my portable devices on my living room stereo. An iPad, a phone, etc. I noticed that the Denon receiver's display says MATRIX, whereas on my other channels it says STEREO (except for my record player where it says DIRECT).

I'm unable to find/understand what this means or how to set it if possible. Is it simply because the Bluetooth thingy is connected through SP-dif? I ask because Matrix sounds sort of surroundy and I only have a regular set of stereo speakers. So I want to set the channel for that.
post #5143 of 5185
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Is it simply because the Bluetooth thingy is connected through SP-dif

No, I think that means you need to choose one of the other many sound modes available on your Denon, whichever one you prefer. Its just defaulted to Matrix right now.

If you don't have the manual you can download it here:
http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/AVR-1610-OM_E_004B.pdf

start on page 38 to see what sound modes are available.

if you press the SIMU button on the remote it will cycle thru these sound modes:
Matrix, Virtual, 5 channel stereo, rock arena, jazz club, mono movie and video game. I think they're all useless except 5 channel stereo.

If you just want stereo press the D/ST button which toggles between Direct and Stereo modes. Leave it on Stereo if that's the sound you prefer. then you're done. It'll stay on Stereo until you decide to change the sound field again.

Basically you have a lot of sound options you've never really tried. Choose whatever you like best.
post #5144 of 5185
If all you have is 2 speakers then set all sources to STEREO mode and call it a day. smile.gif
post #5145 of 5185

Thanks a lot! That cleared up a lot of things for me! Finding that "Virtual" sounds surprisingly good on my small '60s speakers. :) Will adjust for my future setup now that I know what to do.

 

Thanks again!

post #5146 of 5185
Question about the 1610.. I've had it for a few years and it's been working fine for my needs. I just purchased a new smart tv (Samsung UN65F6300) and am having the much discussed no audio from apps to the AV receiver problem.

I've got the AVR setup as the central switching point, with only one HDMI to the TV. Everything displays fine on the TV. I have a cable box hooked up to the SAT/CBL hdmi input. I would like to be able to use the apps in conjunction with this source. I have an optical audio cable connected from the TV to the opt1 (TV) input on the 1610. I can get the TV app/menu sounds out of the receiver on the TV source. I tried remapping the opt1 input to the SAT/CBL source to be able to use the apps while I am watching cable. Unfortunately, when I select the optical input mode, i lose all cable sound, since it is now ignoring the HDMI audio from the cable box.

So I guess my question.. Is there a way to use the opt1 TV input on an HDMI source, while passing the HDMI audio through? If the HDMI audio could pass through to the TV, I could get all audio out of the optical connection.
post #5147 of 5185
No. You can only select one source name at a time and the HDMI audio can either go to the AVR or the TV but not both places. Your requirement is someone confusing though .. how can you have a smart app playing from the TV and then expect to pass video/audio from the cable box to the TV as well as the TV can only play one source just as is the case with the AVR?
post #5148 of 5185
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

No. You can only select one source name at a time and the HDMI audio can either go to the AVR or the TV but not both places. Your requirement is someone confusing though .. how can you have a smart app playing from the TV and then expect to pass video/audio from the cable box to the TV as well as the TV can only play one source just as is the case with the AVR?

Not all of the apps require complete video (IE.. fantasy football or some other app to watch concurrently with a sports game). I admit it's asking a lot, and was more of being lazy trying to avoid changing AVR sources and programming my harmony for another activity to use the smart apps.

I was reading an article on how some AVR's tv in audio port actually play nice with smart TVs and act as sort of a separate ARC and was wondering if the 1610's port functioned this way (At least that's what I got out of it - http://techguyeric.com/2013/07/14/how-to-run-audio-from-your-smart-tv-back-to-your-av-receiver/)

I'll probably end up upgrading the AVR for one that supports ARC among other newer features.
post #5149 of 5185
Audio from the TV can go to the AVR in one of two ways ... either via the HDMI(ARC) connection or via the optical cable. If the TV is able to play a smart app while at the same time playing video from the AVR, then you simply need to assign the optical input on the 1610 to the same source name used by the HDMI input for the cable box and then change the INPUT MODE for that source to "Digital".
post #5150 of 5185
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Originally Posted by StevePMo View Post

Just wondering if anyone here needs a remote or Audessy Mic for their 590 or 1610? My 590 shot craps a while back, and my remote and mic are just taking up space here. ( hopefully I can find the mic, haha )

I know this is an old post, but any chance that you still have the remote and mic?
post #5151 of 5185

Noob question: I'm looking to configure my 590 to bi-amp speakers. Any help configuring the 590 is appreciated.

post #5152 of 5185
Thread Starter 
It can't be done. The 590 is only a 5ch receiver so there are no "extra" amps to assign beyond the standard 5.1 config. Assignable amps are only present on 7ch+ receievers if you choose to forego the standard Surround Back channels.

But, no matter, it's sort of pointless anyway wink.gif
post #5153 of 5185
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

It can't be done. The 590 is only a 5ch receiver so there are no "extra" amps to assign beyond the standard 5.1 config. Assignable amps are only present on 7ch+ receievers if you choose to forego the standard Surround Back channels.

But, no matter, it's sort of pointless anyway wink.gif

Thank you!

post #5154 of 5185

Hi all,

 

I just bought an Apple TV, which has an HDMI out. I want to connect it to one of the AVR-590's HDMI inputs, and then send it out via the Component monitor output to my projector, rather than the HDMI out (my projector only has Component inputs). I can't seem to figure out a way to set up this routing. Is it possible?

 

If it's not possible, do you have suggestions on how to easily convert the Apple TV's HDMI signal to a component cable?

 

Thanks for your help, I'm eager to get this set up!

post #5155 of 5185
Thread Starter 
It's not possible. The only way would be some sort of 3rd party "downconverter".
post #5156 of 5185
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

It's not possible. The only way would be some sort of 3rd party "downconverter".

 

Thanks for clearing that up. I think I've found a suitable converter that takes HDMI in and sends out Component & SPDIF: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291035732909

post #5157 of 5185
Good morning all, hope you can help. My setup is as follows, I have 3 HDMI source inputs (DTV, HTPC and PS3) going to the Denon AVR-1610 and then the video only going to my TV. Nothing else is connected.

While watching cartoons with my kids this morning there was a "click" as if someone had turned off the Receiver and the audio just died. The picture continued just fine. I tried all 3 different sources and I had picture on all 3 just no sound at all. The display just shows "stereo" now instead of the DTA MA or Pro Logic II.

I turned the receiver off and on 4-5 times and it didn't do anything, I went into the setup and couldn't find anything wrong at all.

If this died on me this will be the second Denon receiver I've had to replace in 7 years.. I seem to be getting around 3.5 years of life out of them and it's frustrating.
post #5158 of 5185
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Originally Posted by joe_sun View Post

Good morning all, hope you can help. My setup is as follows, I have 3 HDMI source inputs (DTV, HTPC and PS3) going to the Denon AVR-1610 and then the video only going to my TV. Nothing else is connected.

While watching cartoons with my kids this morning there was a "click" as if someone had turned off the Receiver and the audio just died. The picture continued just fine. I tried all 3 different sources and I had picture on all 3 just no sound at all. The display just shows "stereo" now instead of the DTA MA or Pro Logic II.

I turned the receiver off and on 4-5 times and it didn't do anything, I went into the setup and couldn't find anything wrong at all.

If this died on me this will be the second Denon receiver I've had to replace in 7 years.. I seem to be getting around 3.5 years of life out of them and it's frustrating.

Hi joe_sun, you could try blowing compressed air into headphone jack or plug/unplug a set of headphones a few times. Hopefully this works and gives you another 3.5 years.
post #5159 of 5185
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi joe_sun, you could try blowing compressed air into headphone jack or plug/unplug a set of headphones a few times. Hopefully this works and gives you another 3.5 years.

Ditto.. had this problem twice now in my 1610
post #5160 of 5185
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi joe_sun, you could try blowing compressed air into headphone jack or plug/unplug a set of headphones a few times. Hopefully this works and gives you another 3.5 years.

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Originally Posted by grammo View Post

Ditto.. had this problem twice now in my 1610

Can't believe this fixed it

Wow how crazy and THANKS! so glad I came here before buying a new receiver!
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