*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 1610/590 owner's thread - Page 28

This is using a 1610. I can confirm it doesn't, unless I'm doing something wrong. I installed one for a friend a few weeks ago and just returned from his house after reading some of the above post I wanted to try it for myself.

1st test - Within the same source SAT/CBL. I used Neo6 Music Mode and changed the Sub level using the CH LEV button on the remote to to -3.
I then switched to PLII Music mode and checked the sub level which showed the -3 that I had just changed in Neo6 mode.
I also tried doing the reverse changing it in PLII Music to +3, then switching to Neo6 which showed +3 also. I then repeated the above steps changing the Sub level in the main speaker setup menu, same results.

2nd test - I used separate input sources. Neo 6, source Tuner and changed sub level using the Remotes CH Level to +4 then switched to SAT/CBL, PLII Music and the checked the sub level which was the same +4.
I then tried it again changing the Sub Level in the main speaker setup menu and switching sources, same results. Each time when switching between input sources and/or modes the subs level remained the same no matter what I had set it to previously in each independent source or mode. It was alway the last change I made across the board.

3rd test - I tried all of the above scenarios and programmed different sources, listing modes and sub levels into the Quck Select buttons. Changing between Quick Select buttons after setup showed the same thing every time. Always the same subwoofer level no matter what mode, input source or Quick Select button was used.

This would be a nifty little feature if it worked but unless I'm doing something wrong each time a independent speaker level is changed it's an across the board change rather than a change within a specific listening mode or input source as the manual suggest.

i am pretty set now about getting this receiver. i currently have an older set up.

fronts being nuance star sat s-b
rears are nuance advantage 2s
center is a nuance star cen s pro b
still need a sub.. been saying that for years 8(

i understand they can be fun to set up. so thanks in advance for the info found here.

So today I got around to playing with the take classics and 1610. I turned dynamc volume off which helped somewhat. I still have to crank the volume to -18 or even 0 to get enjoyable sound levels while watching kill bill. This was even after increasing all speaker levels to 0. After a few minutes I decided this wasn't going to work and ordered the RC-30, RC-LCR and RC mini set.

I have an issue with the Denon and take classics in that they emit static noise at these slightly higher listening levels. Is this normal to the 1610? I would think in this day and age we would have good noise filters even In the most basic of receivers. Maybe I still have some settings messed up? Need better wires? Power conditioner? Another question is how much of a limiting factor is the denon 1610 on the RC's? Will I be craving a new receiver in a few months?

Thanks for verifying. I consider this more than a nifty feature, it's critical for me to have. Heck, my 10 year AVR-1801 had separate speaker levels per mode. It's hard to believe my new 1610 doesn't.

Should we consider this a problem with the receiver? Right now I'm stuck changing several of my speaker levels when I switch surround modes, which sucks a lot.

Sorry nifty may have been the wrong wording. I haven't had a receiver that would do this and I've had quite a few so I'm use to going and and changing the level on the fly, wouldn't really matter to me. If I were already use to it, it might be a bigger issue.

I would definitely call Denon and get their input on the situation since it is listed in the manual as a feature and we can't get it do function as it says. We may be doing something wrong but I don't see how, I've set up many receivers before and I doubt it. I may even go back over to his house tomorrow and call from there just to see what they say.

I'd take separate speaker levels by input or surround mode - either way is fine with me. I just don't like turning my sub up and down when I switch between TV, music, DVD, etc - I need some way of keeping them separate.

I might try contacting Denon, but I'm curious what other 1610 owners think about this.

where you can change the options HDMI? as color space and pixel depth?
AVR-1610 support 10bit. where i change?
MY setup Ps3 slim - DENON AVR-1610 - OPTOMA HD 65

Make all the changes in the PS3. Just leave the Receiver at default settings. The PS3 is outputting 1080p and, since you have a Slim, set it to Bitstream and the blue "true HD" signal will indicate on your Receiver. Its much better if the PS3 does all the video hoopla.

Thanks Batpig, I do get to the second position and I run and store all the info it gathers. After the second position it seems to start from the beginning again. I have yet to be asked for a third position. Thanks for help.

I did Stereo, 5CH Stereo, etc, every mode except MULTICH IN. Even the Denon specific modes such as Rock Arena, Jazz Club, etc. I tried every combination I could think of as I already knew the DD/DTS modes were lumped from a previous post. Sorry I wasn't more detailed in my original post.

I realize it's not absolute confirmation as I could be missing something but I don't see how. Unless there is some kind of procedure I'm missing and not listed in the manual.

Thanks Batpig for the responses. I think me using the word "crank" to describe the levels of sound I'm getting from these speakers was an error. Even though I had the volume pretty high on the receiver there wasn't a lot of sound coming out of these speakers. I understand how my perception of loud can change w/o the lower octave but I was trying to keep that in mind while testing this setup. Maybe I am wrong and my perception of the sound will substantially change with the sub. I just want to make sure there is nothing wrong with my receiver. What is a normal movie watching volume level on the 1610 so I can get a baseline.. -30db?

Anyways I have already "jumped the gun" and purchased the RC setup. It might be overkill for my HT but I want to do it right the first time. I'll still be messing around w/ the Take Classics to learn the receiver settings until the big boys arrive.

I have lost all ability to turn the b speakers on also I can not get the surround for the tv to work. when I push sat/cal on the remote the reciever cycles through just like it has in the past but no volume comes on the tv. The display on the reciever has 2 little boxs on the left with pcm on the top and dig on the bottom on the right of the display three boxes are hdmi beside that is rstr and under hdmi is auto. In the middle of the display is stero and sat. What am I missing. Thanks for the help.

hey guys i have posted questions before about audio delay because i have connected my system with optical cables and i experienced audio delayss. so i tried it with component and i still experience audio delay but if i switch the channels back and forth the prblem will be fixed and im starting to get tired of it when i notice it so what exactly is the problem? does anyone know or have experienced this?

What does that mean "lost the ability"? When you press the Speakers button on either the front panel or remote, you're saying the Front panel display no longer cycles between A, B, A+B?

You have the AVR set in STEREO mode. Press the STD key on your remote and return to DD/DD PLII mode for the Sat/CBL.


Yes, many of us have. It's resolved as you have learned by simply changing channels. Other option is to change cable box model.

Love my 1610 so far - is there any way to connect a separate analog audio output from my computer when it's video output is connected via a DVI-HDMI adapter into the Receiver? Seems like there is no way to assign one of the RCA inputs to get the audio output when the HDMI output is being routed to the TV.

Yea, I'll contact Denon. It's just really hard to believe they would strip this feature since like I said, even my 10 year old Denon AVR-1801 supported this, and that was a bottom of the line receiver for its day.

Correct. The RCA inputs are not assignable so you have to plug in to the same labeled RCA jacks as the HDMI jacks you have the computer plugged in to (ie HDMI jack = DVD, RCA jack = DVD). Not sure if you're trying to get audio routed to the TV speakers, however, only HDMI audio IN can be routed via the HMDI Audio Out set to TV setting.

Thanks, JD - I got it working. Was also necessary to change input mode setting from HDMI to Auto, but i'm just a beginner.

Just got off the phone with Denon. They had units set up and were able to test while I was on the phone which was nice. He tried it on the 2310, 1910 and 1610.

On the 2310 the independent level settings were kept each listening mode. On the 1910 and 1610 when he tried it was the last level change he made which is the issue were having.

After putting me on hold several times trying different things he said he would have it looked into further and would call me back later today or tomorrow, well see and I'll updated when I hear something more.

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Ok first I'm going to say WOW on Denons CS. This was my first time dealing with them but based on other AVR manufacturers I've dealt with I had my doubts I'd ever hear from them again when he decided a call back was in order. I just received the call back less than 2 hours from the initial call.

It's confirmed the 1610 nor the 1910 as I asked about that one also will store independent level settings listening per mode or source. He said it was due to them not having enough memory and that it was indeed mis represented or a "typo" as he put it, in the manual.

Hello everybody. Please recommend me a couple of speakers for the Denon 1610 AV Receiver. I would prefer something with 8 Ohm. The room has 20 -30 square meters and I will be using the system for music. Most important, is the quality of the sound. I was thinking at Tannoy Mercury F1 Custom, Klipsch Synergy B2, Dali Concept 1 or anything else you recommend. Thanks

thanks for calling denon, following through, and posting what traspired.

it is comforting to know that denon takes this stuff seriously and is so responsive.

thanks