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post #4441 of 5195
7/24/11 at 8:28pm
no, it's not going to be in the list -- the point is that the code EXISTS, you just have to find a way to get it into the device profile.

one way is to "learn" it from an older remote, another way is to have it copied from my account (username "batpigworld", see link below) into your account. I have discretes for AUTO, EXT IN, and ANALOG as well as I-Mode (which toggles).

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I know I can "teach" the H1, but I'd bet that most people with a 4310 or 4311 don't have a 3805 remote to "learn" from.

but you do!
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post #4442 of 5195
7/30/11 at 12:12pm
I just got an UPDATE AVAILABLE message. Anybody installed this or know what it does?

EDIT: I installed it. Took about 7 minutes total, then it restarted the 4310 where it left off, without a hitch.
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post #4443 of 5195
7/30/11 at 4:07pm
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I just got an UPDATE AVAILABLE message. Anybody installed this or know what it does?

EDIT: I installed it. Took about 7 minutes total, then it restarted the 4310 where it left off, without a hitch.

I got it too. It only updated the Ethernet firmware. No idea what it fixes.
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post #4444 of 5195
7/30/11 at 5:21pm
There are 2 firmware updates due out for all networking models .. the first one disables access to the Rhapsody servers (due to Rhapsody upgrading their servers recently) until another update can be developed to connect to the new servers.
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post #4445 of 5195
7/30/11 at 8:58pm
Should just give us PANDORA!
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post #4446 of 5195
7/31/11 at 8:37pm
Not sure I am in any hurry to update firmware for the ethernet functions....
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post #4447 of 5195
8/1/11 at 7:08am
^
+1 if it works, don't "fix" it
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post #4448 of 5195
8/1/11 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Should just give us PANDORA!

You can add Pandora via either the iPhone app or the android phone app.

If not already familiar, you also may want to check out Spotify which just came to the US a few weeks ago.
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post #4449 of 5195
8/1/11 at 7:43am
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+1 if it works, don't "fix" it

+1

AFAIK, there's no reason to install these updates if you don't use Rhapsody.
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post #4450 of 5195
8/2/11 at 7:01am
Has anyone, who had a NIC failure, ever seem the symptom of uncommanded input changing?

Over the last few days, I had the input change from SAT to CD... without any reason. This happened twice, both at random times. I can change it back with the remote (or front panel knob).

There does not appear to be any other problems, yet I am wondering if this is the beginning of a failure - possibly related to the NIC.
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post #4451 of 5195
8/2/11 at 7:09am
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Has anyone, who had a NIC failure, ever seem the symptom of uncommanded input changing?

Over the last few days, I had the input change from SAT to CD... without any reason. This happened twice, both at random times. I can change it back with the remote (or front panel knob).

There does not appear to be any other problems, yet I am wondering if this is the beginning of a failure - possibly related to the NIC.

Not sure about what the cause is, but my 4311 has done this a few times since the latest two firmware updates. Not only that, but I can no longer get my Xbox to connect to my 4311 either since the firmware updates.
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post #4452 of 5195
8/2/11 at 7:20am
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Not sure about what the cause is, but my 4311 has done this a few times since the latest two firmware updates. Not only that, but I can no longer get my Xbox to connect to my 4311 either since the firmware updates.

Hmmmm.... I have never updated my firmware, since I got the 4310, in Feb 2010. That was back when FW updates were reportedly bricking some units and possibly (yet not confirmed) exasperating the NIC failure. So, I took the "if it isn't a problem, don't fix it" approach. It has been flawless up until now.

I also have no connectivity issues. Everything that I have plugged in has worked just fine. I don't have an Xbox, however.
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post #4453 of 5195
8/2/11 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

Hmmmm.... I have never updated my firmware, since I got the 4310, in Feb 2010. That was back when FW updates were reportedly bricking some units and possibly (yet not confirmed) exasperating the NIC failure. So, I took the "if it isn't a problem, don't fix it" approach. It has been flawless up until now.

I also have no connectivity issues. Everything that I have plugged in has worked just fine. I don't have an Xbox, however.

I generally don't update either, but I was having HDMI issues with one of my BD players and thought an update might help. Also updated since I got the Airplay upgrade as well. Keep in mind that I have a 4311 and not the 4310. This just caught my attention since I was experiencing the same issue with my 4311 as you in regards to the random input switching. Never had the NIC fail on me though.
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post #4454 of 5195
8/2/11 at 8:53pm
I had the NIC failure and the returned-repaired unit has been flawless so far; I believe I will follow the "no update" route until a problem arises that an update may resolve.
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post #4455 of 5195
8/3/11 at 2:48am
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I had the NIC failure and the returned-repaired unit has been flawless so far; I believe I will follow the "no update" route until a problem arises that an update may resolve.

I had the NIC, the HDMI board, and a power supply for the front panel replaced last month. The unit worked fine. I went ahead with the update and everything still works fine.
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post #4456 of 5195
8/3/11 at 9:38am
So, I should have gone the 'no update' route on my 4310, but I didn't know any better. Now, it's been updating for a 1/2 hour or so...and now I see I have a 'Download Fail AE' on the unit's display. What should be my next step? Turn the unit off and then on? There some trick to cancelling the update? Thanks!
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post #4457 of 5195
8/3/11 at 9:47am
^^
Turn the AVR OFF (not Standby) and then back ON again.
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post #4458 of 5195
8/3/11 at 10:43am
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So, I should have gone the 'no update' route on my 4310, but I didn't know any better. Now, it's been updating for a 1/2 hour or so...and now I see I have a 'Download Fail AE' on the unit's display. What should be my next step? Turn the unit off and then on? There some trick to cancelling the update? Thanks!

Some have reported success by holding the up and down arrow and then turning main power switch on. This kicks the network update off and you can try it again.
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post #4459 of 5195
8/3/11 at 11:01am
Did the up and down arrow approach and everything is working. I might give the update a chance again. Thanks fellas.
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post #4460 of 5195
8/3/11 at 11:19am
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Did the up and down arrow approach and everything is working. I might give the update a chance again. Thanks fellas.

If the update were defective, wouldn't we all have this trouble? Mine updated in 7 min, turned itself back on, and continues to work perfectly.
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post #4461 of 5195
8/5/11 at 10:10pm
Over in the avr-4810 thread it looks like we are coming to the same conclusion that the gold non insulated bridgeco network card is likely to fail.

while the avr-4810 uses the DM870 bridgeco card not the DM860, it too has replacement cards coming in with green insulated leads.

Looks like a minor redesign on both the DM870(avr-4810) cards and the DM860(avr-4310) cards.
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post #4462 of 5195
8/6/11 at 6:23pm
Are Audyssey settings in the 4310 the same across inputs? I'm wondering because I'm trying to run the calibration routine for an AS-EQ1, and it says to disable Dynamic Volume, Dynamic EQ, and DSX. If I disable those in one input, does it apply across all of them?
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post #4463 of 5195
8/6/11 at 6:42pm
No, they are per input; however, if you set MultEQ to OFF, it disables Dyn EQ and Dyn Vol.
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post #4464 of 5195
8/7/11 at 5:11am
I had my 4310 in the shop for a month for a replacement of the NIC card (which was NOT the defective NIC that others have had, BTW). Came back in good working order.

Yesterday, I had the unit on and I plugged a USB flash drive into the front USB port. The 4310 didn't find it. I discovered that I had to insert the drive with the AVR turned off in order to have it discovered. After that everything worked fine. After listening, I unplugged the drive and turned off the 4310.

Today I wanted to use the MEDIA SERVER feature, but choosing it with the SOURCE SELECT button put me into the menu for internet radio (favorites, local stations, etc) and the 4310 locked up. It was also not on the network...

I had to turn it completely off (the little black button on the front panel) and reinsert the flash drive, then turn it on, for network access to be restored. Odd...
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post #4465 of 5195
8/7/11 at 7:19am
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No, they are per input; however, if you set MultEQ to OFF, it disables Dyn EQ and Dyn Vol.

Stupid question: How do I set Audyssey to "off"?
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post #4466 of 5195
8/7/11 at 9:30am
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Stupid question: How do I set Audyssey to "off"?

You push the MultiEQ button on the remote repeatedly until your TV (if it's on) or the front panel display on the 4310 tells you "Audyssey off."
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post #4467 of 5195
8/8/11 at 9:15pm
Hi all,

For ridiculous reason, although I bought my 4310ci since nov 2010, I have not used them for more than a few cds listening. My Ht finally completed and hooked up with 7.1 settings. Ran Audyssey two nights ago.


Big gathering Sat nights, half way through the movies, the receiver shut itself off. not quite sure what is going on, I started it again. 15 mins later, the receiver shut itself again. From that point on, it only flashed the red light (less than 0.5 s interval) and shut itself off. There is a strange smell in the room.

Probably a channel is burned ? Why? There is surge protector so surge issue is out. Cross wired speakers? I checked all the speakers, none are crossed although one of the in wall exposed wire is a bit long, I cannot say for sure that with all the tugging, it possibly crossed at one point. Is it enough to burn a channel? A back up avr 1905 has been in its place since then, without problem? What am I missing?
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post #4468 of 5195
8/8/11 at 9:47pm
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Hi all,

For ridiculous reason, although I bought my 4310ci since nov 2010, I have not used them for more than a few cds listening. My Ht finally completed and hooked up with 7.1 settings. Ran Audyssey two nights ago.


Big gathering Sat nights, half way through the movies, the receiver shut itself off. not quite sure what is going on, I started it again. 15 mins later, the receiver shut itself again. From that point on, it only flashed the red light (less than 0.5 s interval) and shut itself off. There is a strange smell in the room.

Probably a channel is burned ? Why? There is surge protector so surge issue is out. Cross wired speakers? I checked all the speakers, none are crossed although one of the in wall exposed wire is a bit long, I cannot say for sure that with all the tugging, it possibly crossed at one point. Is it enough to burn a channel? A back up avr 1905 has been in its place since then, without problem? What am I missing?

Do you have your speaker wire on banana plugs or just bare wire tied into the back of the terminals?

I had an issue where my receiver shutdown after a loud explosion, I had bare wire stripped into the receivers terminals.

I didn't see any crossed wires but went ahead and replaced all bare wire with banana clips. Since then I have had no additional shutdowns.
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post #4469 of 5195
8/9/11 at 4:14am
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Originally Posted by klpham71 View Post

Big gathering Sat nights, half way through the movies, the receiver shut itself off. not quite sure what is going on, I started it again. 15 mins later, the receiver shut itself again. From that point on, it only flashed the red light (less than 0.5 s interval) and shut itself off. There is a strange smell in the room.

When the AVR shuts down in protection mode w/0.5 sec red light flashing, it generally means: (a) speaker wire touching another post either at AVR or at speaker (most common), (b) running 4Ω speakers too loud, or (c) amp failure.
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post #4470 of 5195
8/9/11 at 8:05am
Thanks proudx and jdsmoothie,

I had them on banana. There is no possibility for cross at the avr. There is a possible cross at one of the inwall due to exposed terminated wire. So I assume that is the culprit.

To jdsmoothie, I noticed that you are thorough with your differential diagnosis. I just realized that the three fronts are 6 ohm speakers but the surrounds are 8 ohms in my 7.1 set-up. Would that be a potential problem?

Thanks in advance.
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