Originally Posted by tyree91
I'm sorry you
found my comments worthless.
I found your comments worthwhile. Thank you.
I was simply trying to give you the benefit of our experience between the Oppo and a top flight (cost) BD player. Remember these were not just my observations, but those of an audio professional (repair, design, and manufacturing of high end components,) and a dedicated audiophile/HT enthusiast. Both of them wanted to buy the Oppo, but these listening tests have made them re-think that. Of particular interest was the lack of musicality over SP/DIF vs. a Theta Carmen. This was so pronounced as to make the Oppo a replacement for the Carmen for SD DVD and CD impossible for him.
Another thing to remember is that I took an Integra DTC-9.8 out of our system, which was running Bitstream from BD & HD DVD prior to full evaluation of the Elite 09FD both Bitstreaming and analogue. The Analogue outs trounced the HDMI for film and concert video vs the Bitstreamed True HD & DTS-MA through the Integra. Thus there was no need any longer for HDMI audio processing. I think many in the audio design and reviewing arena are arriving at some of the reasons for this.
Unfortunately many (most?) audio enthusiasts have come to believe that specs are the only valid/trustworthy thing for determining SQ (Sound Quality).
IMO digital processing for audio is a siren song, as are many specs for sound gear.
Anyhow, I still remember when CD came out 27 years ago and presto there was Julian in Stereo Review saying that the SQ was perfect and that the only difference in CD players was in how many features you got for the money spent.
It took a while before that was generally accepted as not being true.
Seems that the same thing is again repeating with Blu-ray players/discs.
The one thing that has happened in the last 27 years is that now sound and video are tied together, and as far as I can tell it is sound that suffers from this marriage.
HDMI just may not be ready for prime time when it comes to high-end audio playback.
That's my own current belief, but that's mainly by my reading and not by my having much hands on experience with using HDMI for audio.
Until more testing, both objective and subjective, is done, and more high end SSPs hit the market I will live with my own observations which for now call for analogue audio solutions to digital audio for BD's new codecs.
I hope this helps some give thought to doing their own tests and observations in this area. Regards, Norm
If by any chance you're the Norm of MKW kindly PM me. Thanks