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post #31 of 264
10/16/09 at 3:44pm
I notice that the Panasonic website is now showing the TH-58PF12UK and TH-65PF12UK. As expected they are using NeoPDP panels. Oddly these retain the "K" at the end even theough the trend with the 85" and the PD lineup seemed to be to remove the "K". Pricing appears to be identical to the outgoing equivalents.

Sorry if this is old news.
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post #32 of 264
10/17/09 at 6:51am
Manual for the 58" and 65".

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...TH58PF12UK.PDF

There is mention of a new LAN board which might have been brought up before. I believe this includes the ability to control the display similar to the Pioneer KRP-xxxM and 1x1FD monitors have. I think that the existing WiFi display board also had this ability.

If I am not mistaken weight has decreased noticeably as well.
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post #33 of 264
10/18/09 at 8:55pm
Hopefully the other sizes follow. Although something tells me the 12UK models won't be cheaper then the outgoing 11UK models.
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post #34 of 264
10/18/09 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by mkoesel View Post

I notice that the Panasonic website is now showing the TH-58PF12UK and TH-65PF12UK. As expected they are using NeoPDP panels. Oddly these retain the "K" at the end even theough the trend with the 85" and the PD lineup seemed to be to remove the "K". Pricing appears to be identical to the outgoing equivalents.

Sorry if this is old news.

It's not very old news - about a week back Techniwizard said these will become available this month. The NeoPDP panel wrapped in the Industrial package will be an incredible combination!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...731&highlight=

It looks like the smallest PF12UK might be the 50 incher, so far no sign of a 42" version.
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post #35 of 264
10/18/09 at 11:56pm
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It's not very old news - about a week back Techniwizard said these will become available this month. The NeoPDP panel wrapped in the Industrial package will be an incredible combination!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...731&highlight=

It looks like the smallest PF12UK might be the 50 incher, so far no sign of a 42" version.

Yes, the 58, 65, and 85 PFs either are or will be shipping before the end of Oct. The 103PF is due around Thanksgiving. There are plans for 42 and 50 PFs to be released after Xmas, exact time-frame is unknown.

TW
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post #36 of 264
10/19/09 at 9:50am
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Hopefully the other sizes follow. Although something tells me the 12UK models won't be cheaper then the outgoing 11UK models.

It's too bad about the price points -- when I got my 50PH10UK it was still a great value proposition to get a pro model versus the consumer versions for those of us who only need a monitor and have no use for a tuner or speakers. But nowadays, the 1080p pro models are so much more expensive than the consumer sets. The 50PF11UK is still $2300+ at Visual Apex, street price on a 50" V10 model is much lower.

I've thought about going to a 12U 768p model (don't really NEED 1080p, at least not enough to spend $2000+) but it's disappointing to see it still can't even a 1080p input signal via HDMI, let alone a 24p input. Which is kind of annoying considering my 10UK can do "100Hz" refresh on a PAL source, can't they let the 768p model accept 1080p/24 and display at 96Hz like the 1080p model PF? The display has the ability to handle that refresh rate already built in.

But anyway, it's a difficult value proposition now versus a V10, which is a shame because I definitely prefer the styling of the pro models.
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post #37 of 264
10/19/09 at 4:14pm
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It's too bad about the price points -- when I got my 50PH10UK it was still a great value proposition to get a pro model versus the consumer versions for those of us who only need a monitor and have no use for a tuner or speakers. But nowadays, the 1080p pro models are so much more expensive than the consumer sets. The 50PF11UK is still $2300+ at Visual Apex, street price on a 50" V10 model is much lower.

The only reason why I'm really looking at the pro models is because they are able to sync down to 15.75khz on their VGA/RGB ports (I have a few devices that require it). If the consumer models were confirmed working with 15.75khz RGB signals via their VGA ports, I'd buy one right now.
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post #38 of 264
10/28/09 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by Techniwizard View Post

Yes, the 58, 65, and 85 PFs either are or will be shipping before the end of Oct.

Any update on 65PF12UK availability? A few weeks ago one online retailer had it listed as arriving 10/28/09 but the current ETA is 12/10/09...
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post #39 of 264
10/28/09 at 7:43pm
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Any update on 65PF12UK availability? A few weeks ago one online retailer had it listed as arriving 10/28/09 but the current ETA is 12/10/09...

Haven't heard a peep, only that the 85s are backordered basically sight unseen (except demos and trade shows).

TW
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post #40 of 264
10/29/09 at 4:11am
Wow, it seems the smaller commercial models must be taking a back seat to the larger models in sales these days. A post Christmas release is pushing close to CES time and at that point people will already anticipating 13th generation consumer Panasonic displays and whatever new tech they may have. I realize of course that the two product lineups aren't meant for the same audience, but for those here who like the monitors it would be tough to get excited about these 12UKs when next years new panel tech is imminent.

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Yes, the 58, 65, and 85 PFs either are or will be shipping before the end of Oct. The 103PF is due around Thanksgiving. There are plans for 42 and 50 PFs to be released after Xmas, exact time-frame is unknown.

TW
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post #41 of 264
10/29/09 at 8:45am
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Any update on 65PF12UK availability? A few weeks ago one online retailer had it listed as arriving 10/28/09 but the current ETA is 12/10/09...

I was told a week or so, we will see. Either way the TC-P65V10 will be less.
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post #42 of 264
11/2/09 at 6:22pm
I am looking into purchasing six TH-42PH12U and setting them up as a 3x2 multi-display to view one source image. I was thinking about using two- 3way D/A component splitters because my client would also like to view 2 diffrent cables boxes on 3 of the tv's when he is not using all 6 as a mutli display.

Does anyone have any experinece with setting them up as a mutlti display? Could i use HDMI for a multidisplay?

it says the TH-42PH12U comes with the input cards for hdmi and component inputs. i can take one out and use it on an older 8uk model?
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post #43 of 264
11/2/09 at 6:38pm
I know my PF10UK was HDMI 1.2 and I believe so was the PF11UK. Will the PF12UK also be HDMI 1.2 or will it have 1.3?
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post #44 of 264
11/2/09 at 7:03pm
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I know my PF10UK was HDMI 1.2 and I believe so was the PF11UK. Will the PF12UK also be HDMI 1.2 or will it have 1.3?

PF12UK uses the same dual-HDMI board as PF10UK. HDMI ver 1.2b
You don't need 1.3 because there is no deep color or multi-channel audio support.

TW
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post #45 of 264
11/2/09 at 7:12pm
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I am looking into purchasing six TH-42PH12U and setting them up as a 3x2 multi-display to view one source image. I was thinking about using two- 3way D/A component splitters because my client would also like to view 2 diffrent cables boxes on 3 of the tv's when he is not using all 6 as a mutli display.

Does anyone have any experinece with setting them up as a mutlti display? Could i use HDMI for a multidisplay?

it says the TH-42PH12U comes with the input cards for hdmi and component inputs. i can take one out and use it on an older 8uk model?

You could use HDMI for multi as long as you had an HDMI 6x amp/splitter.
Better to use the VGA input as a second component input. Avoids any HDMI handshake issues when switching inputs back and forth.

The dual-HDMI board TY-FB10HMD does not retrofit into series 9 or 8 Plasma.
Series 10 and up only.

Series 8 needs HDMI board TY-FB8HM, now discontinued but available through Panasonic Parts in Kent, WA.

TW
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post #46 of 264
11/3/09 at 1:49pm
Hey Chris, I noticed that you have the 85PF12UK listed on your website. Have you gotten a chance to take a look at it in person? If so, how does it look?
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post #47 of 264
11/3/09 at 4:18pm
Man i few years ago when i purchased my TH-42PWD7 it was the thing to buy. I still have it in my living room today. It still has a great picture and people still think it is full HD. I was looking to get a Pro model. I just cant understand how they have flopped positions. The consumer model was always the most expensive. I guess things change. Too bad cause the Pro models have a sleek bezel. Nice and thin. I am also looking at 65"S1. Too bad they are sold out in my area.
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post #48 of 264
11/4/09 at 7:46pm
How about using component for the multi-screen? I am using a sat box for a source for football games so if i used VGA i would need a converter and allot of vga cables. I want to wire it the correct way but cost is also a issue. Would there be a huge difference if i use component and get a 1x6 D/A? I also heard that the 3x2 configuration on a mulit-screen might look terrible and croped instead of using a 2x2 or 3x3 configuration?
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post #49 of 264
11/4/09 at 8:06pm
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How about using component for the multi-screen? I am using a sat box for a source for football games so if i used VGA i would need a converter and allot of vga cables. I want to wire it the correct way but cost is also a issue. Would there be a huge difference if i use component and get a 1x6 D/A? I also heard that the 3x2 configuration on a mulit-screen might look terrible and croped instead of using a 2x2 or 3x3 configuration?

3 x 2 will make everything short and fat unless your source is 32 x 9 aspect.
Component through a DA is OK. Component through the optional TY-42TM6G RGB/Component looping boards (need one less than the total # of displays)
will have a problem with the displays toward the end of the loop passing ratty sync from a STB or raw (non-TBC) DVD player through more than a couple of loops. Loss of sync = muted video, not good for a video wall.

TW
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post #50 of 264
11/5/09 at 8:00pm
Thanks, i have been trying to get a Panasonic Engineer answer those questions for a few months now.

I am using the TH-42PH12U displays so i do not think it has the component loop through so i was just going to use a 1x6 component D/A and the 2 left over hdmi inputs will just be a waste for me on the display since i wont be using them.

I am just scared about the setting up the 3x2 multi-screen and seeing the short/fat picture. My client wants the 3x2 display because that is what will fit perfect on his wall. I am using a satellite and dvd component source so not sure what to do? Is there anything i can do to try help the picture?
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post #51 of 264
11/5/09 at 10:39pm
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Originally Posted by snaps98 View Post

Thanks, i have been trying to get a Panasonic Engineer answer those questions for a few months now.

I am using the TH-42PH12U displays so i do not think it has the component loop through so i was just going to use a 1x6 component D/A and the 2 left over hdmi inputs will just be a waste for me on the display since i wont be using them.

I am just scared about the setting up the 3x2 multi-screen and seeing the short/fat picture. My client wants the 3x2 display because that is what will fit perfect on his wall. I am using a satellite and dvd component source so not sure what to do? Is there anything i can do to try help the picture?

RGB loop through is an optional board, use a component DA, it's cheaper.
Keep in mind that native resolution on the 42PH models is 1024 x 768 using rectangular pixels, 50 inch models are 1366 x 768 and all 1080p units are 1920 x 1080 no matter what size. This will only come into play with computer type signals or when trying to use 1:1 pixel mapping.

Short and fat is where it's at unless you do a 3 x 3 matrix.

TW
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post #52 of 264
11/6/09 at 5:07am
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The Premiere HT line will have the TH65VX100 and TH50VX100 through at least 4th 1/4 2009.

The next premiere models will be the vx200 serie. They will be launched in december 2010 and they will support 3D.
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post #53 of 264
11/6/09 at 10:04am
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The next premiere models will be the vx200 serie. They will be launched in december 2010 and they will support 3D.

Considering VX100 used some Kuro technology, I'm wondering if the VX200 will actually hit or surpass 9G Kuros blacks. And then the question is when that technology will trickle down to the consumer models.
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post #54 of 264
11/7/09 at 6:13pm
The owner's manual for the TH-65PF12UK shows three Terminal board slots.
At factory shipment, the Terminal board TY-FB10HMD (Dual HDMI Termianls) is installed in slot 2,
and the Terminal board TY-42TM6A (Component/RGB IN and Audio IN terminals) is installed in slot 3,
and slot 1 is empty.

Questions:

1) Can a second TY-FB10HMD be installed in the empty slot 1 so as to have 4 HDMI input ports total?
2) Can a second TY-FB10HMD be installed in the empty slot 1 and
a third TY-FB10HMD be installed inplace of the the TY-42TM6A in slot 3 so as to have 6 HDMI input ports?
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post #55 of 264
11/7/09 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by Techniwizard View Post

Sorry, not this model year. 42 and 50 PH (are out) ; 42, 50, 58, 65, 85, 103 PF; 12UK Late .

Darn it
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post #56 of 264
11/7/09 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by MitchMurray View Post

The owner's manual for the TH-65PF12UK shows three Terminal board slots.
At factory shipment, the Terminal board TY-FB10HMD (Dual HDMI Termianls) is installed in slot 2,
and the Terminal board TY-42TM6A (Component/RGB IN and Audio IN terminals) is installed in slot 3,
and slot 1 is empty.

Questions:

1) Can a second TY-FB10HMD be installed in the empty slot 1 so as to have 4 HDMI input ports total?
2) Can a second TY-FB10HMD be installed in the empty slot 1 and
a third TY-FB10HMD be installed inplace of the the TY-42TM6A in slot 3 so as to have 6 HDMI input ports?

1.) YES

2.) NO, slot 3 supports component analog only.

But, a TY-FB8HM (if you can find one) can have a dip switch (1-1) set to ON which will make it compatible with Slot 3 giving a total of (5) HDMI inputs.
TY-FB8HM is limited to 1080i and 60 Hz signals (no 24p). A bit kludgey but it can be done.

TW

BTW, AFAIK, TY-FB8HM will no longer be a sales item but will be available through Panasobic Parts.
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post #57 of 264
11/8/09 at 1:19pm
Hello,

I have been looking for a pro model for quite some time now.

Decided to wait and see what was coming out next.

Have read this tread a couple of time now and am still a bit confused.

As far as I can tell,

the 50PF 11UK is now an outdated model.
This is the model I was waiting for an upgraded version of.

Is the PF11 Series the newer model?

Am looking for a full 1080P model with all the calibration controls of the 50PF11UK.


Most appreciated,

Mr. Panda
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post #58 of 264
11/8/09 at 2:00pm
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As far as I can tell,

the 50PF 11UK is now an outdated model.
This is the model I was waiting for an upgraded version of.

Is the PF11 Series the newer model?

There will be a 50" PF12UK but as noted about by TW, it will be coming late this year (sometime after Christmas).
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post #59 of 264
11/8/09 at 2:31pm
Thank you for your reply.

I do understand that there are are 12 Uk models coming out after Christmas.

But I just download some information on a 50 inch 11 Series model.
Unable to locate the exact model number.
But it has Nero PDP which I never saw listed on the 50PF 11UK before.
Is this in fact the same model?
Everything in my hand looks different in the products sheets I have seen before.

Pany does not show the 12 Series as having full 1080P.
Please explain?

Mr. Panda
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post #60 of 264
11/8/09 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by mr. panda View Post

But I just download some information on a 50 inch 11 Series model.
Unable to locate the exact model number.
But it has Nero PDP which I never saw listed on the 50PF 11UK before.

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Please explain?

There is no 11UK model with a NeoPDP. If you can provide the link from where you downloaded this information, I will take a look. But whatever it is that you've downloaded - it is a mistake or error.

If you want a commercial model with a NeoPDP panel, you'll have to wait for the 12UK.
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