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post #1381 of 2341
6/12/12 at 3:33pm
Originally Posted by Mark the Red

First off, let me say I enjoyed Prometheus. I didn't expect it to be like Star Trek: The Motion Picture, whereby I could go an take a 30 minute smoke break, come back and not really miss anything.
Yes the people on board did do some stupid things as many have stated. But were the crew on the Nostromo (Alien 1) really geniuses by comparison? This is the same crew who sent their captain (by himself) into a duct to 'scare' a 15ft tall super-predator away, using a piddly-ass flame thrower with an effective range of a zippo lighter? Great idea. Pure Davinci society material guys. Not to mention nobody even tried to kill the damn thing when it burst out of John Hurt's gut just because Ash said no? The crew of the Nostromo were pants-on-head retarded by comparison to the Prometheus crew.
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Yes, exactly and great points. Ok since this was probably thee most complaint allow me to further the obvious. 1st of all people the crew have been sleeping for 2 yrs. When you wake up, your body, muscles, nerves, brain, motor function are NOT 100%, kinda like when your butt or leg goes numb when it's been the same place for too long. And when going out to the caves to do some exploration is like a prisoner who's been let out so they there's all kinda of god knows emotions, adrenalin, anxiety, etc that's going through their minds. Don't you recall when you've been inside for a long time for some reason like snow storm and allowed to go outside later you have compulsions and act stupid doing daring things you would not normally do in a far out foreign land and time.
2nd that guy with the buzz cut who freaked out you can't fault him. Again, they're on a place millions miles from home under duress, stress so everyone reacts and responds to pressure differently. And the botanist who petted that snake again he's a lover of nature so of course to the average person that may seem hap hazard. How many times have you watched wild kingdom or the crocodile hunter and they have handled animals you would think is crazy. Well to him that's the same mind process.

Umm...no, not great points. I need to watch it again, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but two points regarding the Dallas duct scene: 1. A flamethrower seemed like the best weapon option they had available. They had no idea that the Alien was pretty much fire resistant unlike other living organisms. 2. I'm pretty sure they still had no idea that is was already a fully grown alien.
Regarding the chesburster scene, it was obvious that they were in an immediate state of shock (just like the audience when they watched it for the first time). And being that they had just witnessed the creature before squirt out acid upon being cut, I'm pretty sure most people would be reluctant to do much within those few seconds, especially with only having a freaking dinner knife or fork!!

The people on wild kingdom or whatever are professionals that know what exactly they are dealing with, they are not toying or taunting a completely unfamiliar species. You guys are really stretching for your justifications.
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6/12/12 at 3:56pm
So, trying to avoid the spoilers scattered throughout the thread. One simple question. See this in an IMAX 3D, or a RealD 3D equipped theater. That's the most information I could glean from the theater websites on the type of system they use. The RealD is a Cinemark, the IMAX (they also have RealD there) is an AMC. Was this shown in 48fps or anything (I thought Hobbit would be the first), is there a certain type of theater I need to go to to get the full experience? Any input appreciated.
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post #1383 of 2341
6/12/12 at 3:57pm
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Guy Pearce also played the same character as a 40 something man for one of the film's promos, which was long planned from the beginning so it makes sense.

They could still use a different, actual old guy, and it would be way more convincing and believable, a la Rose Dawson and Private Ryan.
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post #1384 of 2341
6/12/12 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by Mark the Red
First off, let me say I enjoyed Prometheus. I didn't expect it to be like Star Trek: The Motion Picture, whereby I could go an take a 30 minute smoke break, come back and not really miss anything.
Yes the people on board did do some stupid things as many have stated. But were the crew on the Nostromo (Alien 1) really geniuses by comparison? This is the same crew who sent their captain (by himself) into a duct to 'scare' a 15ft tall super-predator away, using a piddly-ass flame thrower with an effective range of a zippo lighter? Great idea. Pure Davinci society material guys. Not to mention nobody even tried to kill the damn thing when it burst out of John Hurt's gut just because Ash said no? The crew of the Nostromo were pants-on-head retarded by comparison to the Prometheus crew.
Umm...no, not great points. I need to watch it again, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but two points regarding the Dallas duct scene: 1. A flamethrower seemed like the best weapon option they had available. They had no idea that the Alien was pretty much fire resistant unlike other living organisms. 2. I'm pretty sure they still had no idea that is was already a fully grown alien.
Regarding the chesburster scene, it was obvious that they were in an immediate state of shock (just like the audience when they whatched it for the first time). And being that they had just witnessed the creature before squirt out acid upon being cut, I'm pretty sure most people would be reluctant to do much within those few seconds, especially with only having a freaking dinner knife or fork!!
The people on wild kingdom or whatever are professionals that know what exactly they are dealing with, they are not toying or taunting a completely unfamiliar species. You guys are really stretching for your justifications.

Not only that, but the crew in Alien were a bunch of roughnecks towing a mining vessel, so they aren't expected to be geniuses. Encountering a deadly alien life form was the last thing they were prepared for. A crew of (presumably) highly skilled scientists on a mission to discover alien life should be expected to be EXTREMELY cautious, thorough and intelligent in their actions, but the Prometheus crew were mostly a bunch of impulsive idiots. This film was bad science and even worse fiction. It's considerable technical virtuosity is the only thing that makes the movie watchable.
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post #1385 of 2341
6/12/12 at 4:10pm
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So, trying to avoid the spoilers scattered throughout the thread. One simple question. See this in an IMAX 3D, or a RealD 3D equipped theater. That's the most information I could glean from the theater websites on the type of system they use. The RealD is a Cinemark, the IMAX (they also have RealD there) is an AMC. Was this shown in 48fps or anything (I thought Hobbit would be the first), is there a certain type of theater I need to go to to get the full experience? Any input appreciated.

Good question. There have been arguments for and against both. May also depend on the quality differences and upkeep of each particular theater. I don't think you need to worry about 48fps or anything special regarding the film production-to-theater screen equation. I'm an IMAX guy for everything, so I'm biased.
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post #1386 of 2341
6/12/12 at 4:22pm
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So, trying to avoid the spoilers scattered throughout the thread. One simple question. See this in an IMAX 3D, or a RealD 3D equipped theater. That's the most information I could glean from the theater websites on the type of system they use. The RealD is a Cinemark, the IMAX (they also have RealD there) is an AMC. Was this shown in 48fps or anything (I thought Hobbit would be the first), is there a certain type of theater I need to go to to get the full experience? Any input appreciated.

I saw it in a classic IMAX (the old 15/70 format, multistory theaters), and I can't imagine RealD being better. The movie had beautiful landscape flyovers and lots of holographic 3D effects that are simply unmatched on a giant IMAX screen. The smaller AMC IMAX screens would probably not do it justice, and at that point, the choice between AMC IMAX or Cinemark RealD should depend on your knowledge of the screen size and audio quality at the respective theaters. Sorry for a complicated answer. smile.gif
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post #1387 of 2341
6/12/12 at 10:00pm
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- This may be silly but setting it 80 years in the future is silly. FTL travel, cryogenic sleep harrier-type ships that can fly between the stars and land on planets, and perfect human simulation AIs in 80 years? 800 maybe.

(My apologies for getting off topic here, but...)

I would respectfully disagree.

Ok, the year is 2012. Please tell me what technological advancements we have on record for the year 2012bc through 1996bc (BC, not AD).

I think they kinda banned bacon maybe, and all pork products, but that's about it from 2012 bc.

Now, tell me about 1996 through 2012 ad?

In 1996 I had just transitioned from the 20gb 16 node BBS that I started back in 1984 into an Internet Service Provider. Our first server was a P4 120mhz w/128mb RAM and a 1.2gb hard drive if I remember correctly. Now, 18 years later, my iPhone 4s has about 100 times more processing power, 32gb solid state storage, etc.

My *PHONE*.

What I'm getting at here is a parallel to Moore's law. Back in the 60s I think, he predicted that computer processing power would double every 18 months. (What he didn't realize is that the energy needed to produce that processing power is cut in half every 18 months).

The parallel I'm going for here is that Moore's law seems to be applicable to the rate of technology advancement. Maybe we're doubling every 18 years instead of 18 months, but we are developing technology faster than we can develop the morals to deal with what we're creating.

Will we have all of this in 80 years? Probably not. But trust me on this one, it's coming. And I'm working with a team of the best people in the world on the next generation of technology. Google Federico Faggin. He's one of the people backing the company I'm working with now.

He invented the microprocessor. The original Intel 4004 has his signature on the dye. John Mashey is another one of our backers. Another guy helping us out is Fred Baker, 'Fred@Cisco.Com'.

I can't reveal any details about what we're working on, but rest assured, we're turning Science Fiction into Science.
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6/13/12 at 2:37am
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I can't reveal any details about what we're working on, but rest assured, we're turning Science Fiction into Science.

Can it be recyclable cheese?
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post #1389 of 2341
6/13/12 at 4:15am
I saw this movie yesterday (Imax 3D) with my amazon $10 off coupon. I was going to cancel my preorder for the bluray but changed my mind. I like the movie but yet it was lacking in certain areas. Why did the captain did what he did at the end? It seems like some parts are missing.
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post #1390 of 2341
6/13/12 at 6:31am
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Bring on the director's cut. I enjoyed it, but it certainly felt like they squished it into a budget of 2 hours. Visuals and pacing were great, but I think Ridley was too busy building his origin story/universe that he forgot about developing some characters to fit into it. David was the most fleshed out character and he was an android. Naoimi was the lead/co-lead, but aside from a dream sequence, the cross on her neck, and her inability to conceive, she was sort of a shell of a character as well. The rest were basically throw aways - knew there time would come, and when it came, you didn't really care. I'm hoping it came down to cutting down on the visuals or dialogue to fit it to 2 hours and they chose to cut the dialogue - really hoping the directors cut spends more time on dialogue and character development.

The opening was completely unexpected. I see the purpose of it, but in the tradition of previous Alien movies, I was really expecting it to start out on the ship. It felt like they revealed too much up front, but by the end of the movie, it made sense with the way it started.

Overall, I'd say it's a solid movie that keeps you thinking once you've stepped out of the theater. There were definitely more questionable moments than I would have liked, but I don't feel they took enough away from the movie to knock it down. It's easy to see why opinions of the movie vary from one end of the spectrum to the other. For me, it's definitely one of the better movies I've seen in some time, though I'm really hoping the director's cut takes it to another level.
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post #1391 of 2341
6/13/12 at 7:56am
I changed my preorder from 3D to 2D.
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post #1392 of 2341
6/13/12 at 8:34am
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So, trying to avoid the spoilers scattered throughout the thread. One simple question. See this in an IMAX 3D, or a RealD 3D equipped theater. That's the most information I could glean from the theater websites on the type of system they use. The RealD is a Cinemark, the IMAX (they also have RealD there) is an AMC. Was this shown in 48fps or anything (I thought Hobbit would be the first), is there a certain type of theater I need to go to to get the full experience? Any input appreciated.

The movie is not 48 fps. The Hobbit will be the first film in that format.

I saw Prometheus in digital IMAX. I thought that the 3D was pretty well used in the first half of the movie, but the movie basically stopped being 3D at all in the second half.
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post #1393 of 2341
6/13/12 at 8:49am
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The movie is not 48 fps. The Hobbit will be the first film in that format.
I saw Prometheus in digital IMAX. I thought that the 3D was pretty well used in the first half of the movie, but the movie basically stopped being 3D at all in the second half.

speaking of format.... I saw it in IMAX3D and it didn't seem like a 2.35:1 at all which is apparently the aspect ratio used in the film. Was it opened or cropped? I could be wrong but it did look more like 1.85 at the very least or even bigger (but not 1.44:1 of course)
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post #1394 of 2341
6/13/12 at 8:51am
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The rest were basically throw aways - knew there time would come, and when it came, you didn't really care.
What? eek.gif What about Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Charlize Theron? I almost cried when she was gone! Knowing that she won't reappear in the sequel if made, it was disheartening for me. frown.gif

And what's all this talk about different 3D theaters? Does quality vary that much among them? If so, then this movie has some serious quality control issue. frown.gif BTW, how did Charlize Theron look in 3D version, especially when they show her backside. I saw 2D and she looked great in those tights but wondering how much more realistic 3D is...
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6/13/12 at 8:56am
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BTW, how did Charlize Theron look in 3D version

"I could almost touch her"biggrin.gif
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6/13/12 at 9:09am
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What? eek.gif What about Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Charlize Theron? I almost cried when she was gone! Knowing that she won't reappear in the sequel if made, it was disheartening for me. frown.gif

Trust me...it brought a tear to my eye.

Here's hoping the scene where...
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she invites Idris Elba into her room to prove she's not a robot is in the director's cut!

Her character was a perfect example of one I wish they fleshed out a little more. biggrin.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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post #1397 of 2341
6/13/12 at 9:40am
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it. I am so glad I cheated and checked out various "what prometheus was really about" discussions. The people I saw this with were totally clueless at the end of the movie and fairly frustrated. There are plenty of clues in the movie if you are looking for them and I found it MUCH easier to enjoy the visuals and spot what I thought was really going on/being implied.

That said, there are some major facepalm moments that could have easily been cleaned up and is a MAJOR pet peeve of mine that directors leave these un-attended. Some quick, simple narrative could have removed the preposterous nature of these facepalms. I really did enjoy the movie but it could have been SO much better. Avengers only had one face palm moment for me, when Scarlett was riding the Alien sled thing, and I remember commenting how odd it was to watch a summer blockbuster were everything fit and seemed right.
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6/13/12 at 2:54pm
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Charlize Theron? I almost cried when she was gone!
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That character deserved to die for not being able to run sideways or turn 90 degrees. Darwinism at work. Apparently the only direction she was capable of running was in the same path as the crashing space ship.
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6/13/12 at 2:57pm
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Saw this last night and really enjoyed it. I am so glad I cheated and checked out various "what prometheus was really about" discussions. The people I saw this with were totally clueless at the end of the movie and fairly frustrated. There are plenty of clues in the movie if you are looking for them and I found it MUCH easier to enjoy the visuals and spot what I thought was really going on/being implied.
Interesting...

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That said, there are some major facepalm moments that could have easily been cleaned up and is a MAJOR pet peeve of mine that directors leave these un-attended. Some quick, simple narrative could have removed the preposterous nature of these facepalms. I really did enjoy the movie but it could have been SO much better.
Sounds like you are sorta agreeing with Josh Zyber.....
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6/13/12 at 3:12pm
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(My apologies for getting off topic here, but...)
I would respectfully disagree.
Ok, the year is 2012. Please tell me what technological advancements we have on record for the year 2012bc through 1996bc (BC, not AD).
I think they kinda banned bacon maybe, and all pork products, but that's about it from 2012 bc.
Now, tell me about 1996 through 2012 ad?
In 1996 I had just transitioned from the 20gb 16 node BBS that I started back in 1984 into an Internet Service Provider. Our first server was a P4 120mhz w/128mb RAM and a 1.2gb hard drive if I remember correctly. Now, 18 years later, my iPhone 4s has about 100 times more processing power, 32gb solid state storage, etc.
My *PHONE*.
What I'm getting at here is a parallel to Moore's law. Back in the 60s I think, he predicted that computer processing power would double every 18 months. (What he didn't realize is that the energy needed to produce that processing power is cut in half every 18 months).
The parallel I'm going for here is that Moore's law seems to be applicable to the rate of technology advancement. Maybe we're doubling every 18 years instead of 18 months, but we are developing technology faster than we can develop the morals to deal with what we're creating.
Will we have all of this in 80 years? Probably not. But trust me on this one, it's coming. And I'm working with a team of the best people in the world on the next generation of technology. Google Federico Faggin. He's one of the people backing the company I'm working with now.
He invented the microprocessor. The original Intel 4004 has his signature on the dye. John Mashey is another one of our backers. Another guy helping us out is Fred Baker, 'Fred@Cisco.Com'.
I can't reveal any details about what we're working on, but rest assured, we're turning Science Fiction into Science.

I'm right there with you. Back in college I was taking a C class and the professor boldly told the class that Intel would never make anything faster then the Pentium 100mhz because it could already fry eggs. I scoffed at him. We cant even imagine the things that will be worked on in a lab in 10 years alone. These technologies we hear about today like carbon nano's have probably been worked on for decades and the things they do in the next 10 years will boggle minds. (see my quote below).
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6/13/12 at 3:18pm
well finally got to see it last night.

loved it. if you are an avs member and can't appreciate the quality of the f/x and the overall excellent and groundbreaking use of new digital arts tech, you should leave this forum now!

seen on digital imax 3d (liemax) is a must unless you can find a traditional imax theater that is showing it.

i have never seen a film so gorgeously wrought, both visually and audibly in my life. it makes avatar look like childrens watercolor paint by numbers. the use of 3d was
absolutely stunning. it wasn't used as a gimmick as we usually get it, but, as someone has already said, it is organic and looks real. i usually lose the 3d effect as the movie goes on,
but the 3d effect and its wow factor was present here from start to finish. i felt as if i was there with the crew of the prometheus. my teenage son loved it as well.

as to the plot, yep there are holes, and illogical conduct by the crew, but if you can let go of those things and just enjoy a really good movie with a few flaws, you too
will be endeared to this flick.

i wouldn't call this science fiction. the science was pretty much absent from the movie but it is great fiction.
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6/13/12 at 3:24pm
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That character deserved to die for not being able to run sideways or turn 90 degrees. Darwinism at work. Apparently the only direction she was capable of running was in the same path as the crashing space ship.
Well, Noomi's character didn't do much better either. Plus, if Darwinism really works, there won't be such term as "dumb blond" because they would have gone extinct long before the language of English came to being. But don't blame Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Charlize, blame the screen writer. frown.gif
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6/13/12 at 4:04pm
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blame the screen writer. frown.gif
I did, hence my specifying the character, not the actor.
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6/13/12 at 5:11pm
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well finally got to see it last night. loved it. if you are an avs member and can't appreciate the quality of the f/x and the overall excellent and groundbreaking use of new digital arts tech, you should leave this forum now! ... seen on digital imax 3d ... is a must ... i have never seen a film so gorgeously wrought, both visually and audibly in my life. it makes avatar look like childrens watercolor paint by numbers. the use of 3d was absolutely stunning. it wasn't used as a gimmick as we usually get it, but, as someone has already said, it is organic and looks real. i usually lose the 3d effect as the movie goes on, but the 3d effect and its wow factor was present here from start to finish.

I just returned from seeing this in IMAX and was very much impressed. There are a few slow scenes but then the original ALIEN was full of those. I think it's called suspense. This movie is truly an an excellent piece of cinematic craftsmanship with stunning visuals and a story that keeps your head busy enough figuring things out. Fortunately there is the "Apone"-like captain to tell us just exactly what this planet is (essentially a ten-second Cliff notes for those who, like my wife, may not be able to assemble all the pieces on the fly). I really enjoyed the homage paid to earlier Alien franchise stories (David shooting hoops etc) as well as 2001 as mentioned in earlier posts. The giant squid I guess really belonged at the end of Watchmen and reminded me more of the T-1000000 in T23D at Universal. Anyway, in my opinion this one ranks above the original, as long as you don't go into this expecting it to somehow end up as a true prequel leading directly up to the beginning of the original.
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6/13/12 at 5:29pm
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For those on the fence or waiting for the BD let me say this. As you know I have zero propensity to see a good movie in the theaters as my total of 4 since 2001 walks my talk. People have time and time over told me things like Oh I need to see such and such Titanic, Avatar on the big screen but I quietly just say ok but in my mind I know that is not the case for me as I have always enjoyed it as much in my HT.
BUT...with my Prometheus that is not the case. This is not your typical film. It is not a romantic movie, not an action, it is a SCI -Fi revelation that reaches unlimited scope and grandeur that will be appreciated in a big stadium screen,..the bigger the better. So if you plan on getting the BD or seeing it on dvd... beg, borrow and steal $11 and head out to the best stadium cinema in your area and you'll be transported to another universe.

I totally agree. I maybe go see 3-4 movies a year in the theaters and have probably only seen 2 or 3 movies in real 3-D in my life, but I ponied up the full $12 for a ticket to this in 3D and I am glad I did. I think to many people went into this thinking it was going to be the space horror epic and like Alien, but this is a thinking man's movie, raising all sorts of questions. Sure there were some missteps, like one dimensional characters (didn't anybody do a psyche test on Mohawk guy) and unclear plot holes, but every movies has a few of those. Don't get me started on Avengers were the scientist conveniently leaves a back door to shut off the portal and Hulk is overpowered and controllable. This may not be your instant cult classic like some, but I believe it will grow over time, especially if they finally flesh out some plot lines in a sequel. For now it is fun to use the clues in the movie to answer the ultimate question yourself.
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6/13/12 at 6:20pm
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As you know I have zero propensity to see a good movie in the theaters as my total of 4 since 2001 walks my talk.
How did I miss this post. eek.gif
So you have seen 4 movies in the theater since the movie 2001 came out or the year 2001? Because there is a huge difference between the two. biggrin.gif
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6/13/12 at 7:17pm
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How did I miss this post. eek.gif
So you have seen 4 movies in the theater since the movie 2001 came out or the year 2001? Because there is a huge difference between the two. biggrin.gif
Not sure if you know or just messing around but you do have a point, it's the yr 01 but if you're able to use clues it was there as I mentioned LOTR as the 1st and Prometheus being the most recent. And most likely the sequel is when I'll venture out again as nothing else really worth it.
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6/13/12 at 7:52pm
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They could still use a different, actual old guy, and it would be way more convincing and believable, a la Rose Dawson and Private Ryan.

Everyone seems to agree on this. Guy Pierce's acting style was important enough to
keep the actual actor in the part. I agree it was a risk to age such a popular actor and miss the mark
with something as simple as makeup. I can see it working and completely understand why he's there.

Again, the cut can do serious damage to certain parts of a story. This is minor compared to other things in the script/dialog
in the 'Studio' approved cut.
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6/13/12 at 11:21pm
If there's a weak link or something I didn't care for in Prometheus is Guy pearce. I think he's the most over rated hack working in Hollywood today and is only getting by because of his one trick pony Memento which garnished a cult following which I also don't get either but I digress and give him that. But ever since then he's been doing highfalutin stuff trying to be Ralph fiennes or Daniel day lewis but he's need a reality check.

I mean look at his role in Who's afraid of the dark and you'll see what I mean how "average" he is. I don't hate him per se but he's just boring and he needs to come down and do more things within his ability and not reaching like here with his old man eccentric billionaire. Thank god his lame speech in the trailer was not in the theatrical cut because it was cringe worthy. And sorry but someone like his agent needs to tell him that he doesn't have the charisma or star power like someone who isn't the greatest talent but has star power like Keanu to carry a movie either.
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6/14/12 at 2:10am
Disagree. The most overrated weakest link today, has to be George Clooney. Must be a female thing; I don't get him at all..
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