Alien Prequel - Prometheus - Page 56

Originally Posted by TyrantII 

Snopes really needs to do a debunking on that. Depending on the person it's anywhere from 2X to 11'ty'billion. Most of the time because of something called studio math, that is used much like tax planning to avoid payouts structured on profits.

Also, box office takes for theaters are notoriously small. They're lucky to take 5-10% from ticket sales, usually on the lower end. Most films cost more to show than they make back in ticket sales. Concessions is the business theaters are in, not ticket sales. Ticket sales is the business of the producers and distributors. And atleast in the US, there's quite a few big name chains that are actually owned by major production and distribution companies. So you end up adding revenue to the same parent company, through a different subsidiary.

What we do know for a fact: Prometheus is the #1 all time revenue generator in the franchise, and adjusted for ticket sales it's currently #2. It need's to make about $35 million to pass into #1 adjusted in the franchise, and still has tow major international scifi markets to open in, along with a few smaller ones.
It's budget was $130 million, and word is they spend around $50 on marketing.
Believe what you will, but after getting a R rating, I'm sure Fox is sitting pretty happy with where it is now. Especially schedualing it to only have a good 4 weeks before the July tsunami.

Originally Posted by iamian 

Perhaps this is why you are not working as a screenwriter?

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart 

It may be the #1 revenue generated for the franchaise but isn't it also the most expensive film in the franchaise? I heard WW marketing costs were closer to $75 million. Then you have your Print Fees.

Originally Posted by MovieSwede 

While its true thats its the most successful movie in the franchise, its not if we take in adjusted dollars. Then its nr 3.
As for how much they take, isnt the usual that distr take 90% first week, 80% second week. Thats actually good for a movie like Prometheus were most people saw it the first two weeks.

Originally Posted by TyrantII 

If it gives Scott creative control and a budget he wants for the sequel, good news to me. Also hope other studios take notice of a high grossing adult science fiction movie. Maybe well get more down the pipe.

Originally Posted by TyrantII 

If it gives Scott creative control and a budget he wants for the sequel, good news to me. Also hope other studios take notice of a high grossing adult science fiction movie. Maybe well get more down the pipe.

Originally Posted by TyrantII 

If it gives Scott creative control and a budget he wants for the sequel, good news to me. Also hope other studios take notice of a high grossing adult science fiction movie. Maybe well get more down the pipe.

Originally Posted by Auditor55 

That movie might discourage studios from making adult sci-fi flicks.

Originally Posted by oink 

You're kidding, right?
Studios primary function is to make $$$.
Prometheus has made money at the B.O. and the videos will be icing on the cake.

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart 

You mean the videos will make it profitable. . . . maybe. It's domestic BO was less than it's budget. Then you have marketing costs, distribution costs, print costs, etc.

Originally Posted by oink 

So, let's be done with this and move on....

Originally Posted by Meteor|WAR 

Pretty sure another reason they chose a younger actor and just put a ton of elderly make up on him was because Ridley Scott wants the option to be able to use him in flashbacks as a young man in the Prometheus sequels.
Weyland is such an important character in this universe, he's pretty much guaranteed to have a part in every film. Using a young actor gives the writers/director flexibility in this.

Originally Posted by sb1 

That's the same thing I just said to this drink...

Originally Posted by Auditor55 

Prometheus is by far one the most disappointing sci-films ever. That movie might discourage studios from making adult sci-fi flicks.

Originally Posted by Auditor55 

Prometheus is by far one the most disappointing sci-films ever. That movie might discourage studios from making adult sci-fi flicks.

Originally Posted by MovieSwede 

Its made $391,002,877 worldwide now, I dont think Prometheus discourage any studio.

Originally Posted by Auditor55 

That dude should go on some kind of sabbatical and rethink things before making another summer stinker like Prometheus. Prometheus is by far one the most disappointing sci-films ever.

Originally Posted by sb1 

Having finally seen this, I'm in the camp of the disappointed. Awesome movie to look at, but must have had the dumbest scientists (director and writer) known to man. Or, there's an hours worth of material on a hard drive somewhere that would make it all better. That'd have to be some damn impressive material that got cut, though. I'll give it credit for having some areas that were cool to ponder over or interpret, but they're easily forgotten when you see some of the character's decisions and how other characters respond (or don't respond) to those decisions. Massive potential to be a really good movie. Shame.

Originally Posted by bcruiser 

I've looked at IMDB, Rotten Tomato and etc. and they all show overwhelming positive reaction for this movie. Conclusion? Such strong negative view of this movie still is in small minority group. Will Hollywood care about such small number?

Originally Posted by bcruiser 

I've looked at IMDB, Rotten Tomato and etc. and they all show overwhelming positive reaction for this movie. Conclusion? Such strong negative view of this movie still is in small minority group.

Originally Posted by sb1 

Considering the current state of our society, using the masses as a judge of whether or not a movie is good could be a mistake....depending on what your definition of "good" is. I'd venture so far as to say that most of us here don't represent the masses. Not just with a/v stuff, but perhaps not in many arenas at all. I consider that a good thing. With regard to movies, most of us here have a certain set of built in standards we look for (flowing and coherent dialog, lucid editing, strong plot, was the director drunk, etc), and not just 'splotions and pretty special effects. We're "into" movies here and expect more than the average bear does. Unfortunately for us, that means we don't get nearly as many "good" movies that most folks do each year.
Back to Prometheus, now that I've seen it I went looking around this internet thing to see what people were saying. The rational, justification, and fill-in-the-blanks stuff is just plain comical and/or pathetic. Hell, give me two ours and I'll explain how Dumb and Dumber was really about Lloyds journey from newborn to purgotory, then finally heaven. Sometimes a director just screws up. All of this is, of course, my opinion only.

Originally Posted by sb1 

Considering the current state of our society, using the masses as a judge of whether or not a movie is good could be a mistake....depending on what your definition of "good" is. I'd venture so far as to say that most of us here don't represent the masses. Not just with a/v stuff, but perhaps not in many arenas at all. I consider that a good thing. With regard to movies, most of us here have a certain set of built in standards we look for (flowing and coherent dialog, lucid editing, strong plot, was the director drunk, etc), and not just 'splotions and pretty special effects. We're "into" movies here and expect more than the average bear does. Unfortunately for us, that means we don't get nearly as many "good" movies as most folks do each year.
Back to Prometheus, now that I've seen it I went looking around this internet thing to see what people were saying. The rational, justification, and fill-in-the-blanks stuff is just plain comical and/or pathetic. Hell, give me two ours and I'll explain how Dumb and Dumber was really about Lloyds journey from newborn to purgotory, then finally heaven. Sometimes a director just screws up. All of this is, of course, my opinion only.

Originally Posted by General Kenobi 

Prometheus was the summer film I was most excited about and incidentally the most letdown with as well. I thought the visuals were great, Noomi was fantastic as was Fassbender but the movie sucked, the entire thrust of the plot thought it was so much smarter than it was. It had so much potential to re-invent the scifi-horror wheel and give us something we'd never experienced before but instead we got some cornball Stargate"AliensBuiltIt"thereisnoGod garbage. I really wanted to enjoy this but it failed for me on so many levels (and yes "i got it" it was just weak).

Originally Posted by GoCaboNow 

Agreed.
But for some reason I gave it a pass this time. Normally, if it is not proven on screen, I do not just assume the actor can kick butt, or the two leads really did fall in love - even though no compelling spark was shown etc etc...But, even with all the poor characters and vague references, I chose to believe what the Engineers COULD be and that made all the difference to my enjoyment of the movie. Kind of like a double suspension of disbelief. If I could just bottle that...

Originally Posted by sb1 

Considering the current state of our society,

using the masses as a judge of whether or not a movie is good could be a mistake.... depending on what your definition of "good" is.

Originally Posted by sb1 

I really think this had the potential to be one of the greats, but Scott F'd it up. I think that's why it's so frustrating...realizing what it could have been. Or better yet, just realizing how good it could have been with just so many very small script and scene changes. Blows the mind to think that someone at the helm of such a project and of Scott's caliber (at least previously) thought it all worked fine the way he had it.

Originally Posted by bcruiser 

I believe that's where you veered off course. It's about the business, the state of their business. They care about investment and return.
They've been using the masses as a judge of whether or not a movie is good investment and they are still in business. They've been doing something right or they would've gone out of business already.