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post #391 of 2359
Found it here.

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When asked whether his original alien will show up at any point, Scott was quick to deny it.

"No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He [the xenomorph] did very well," Scott said. "[He laughs.] He survived, he's now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

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"I think one of the reasons why I've never gone back to science fiction, even though I've often noodled around, thought about it, looked for story, looked for material, is that there's a nice purity to the original Alien. It's fairly pure," he said. "And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first oneI always figured it's a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn't a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?"
post #392 of 2359
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Don't defend the totally unnecessary lower rating. Cool movie franchise or not.

I don't think any of us defended PG13 ever. Most stopped complaining about it when Ridley assured everyone there will be an R cut on DVD.

The suits get their way during first run & we get Ridley's real version months later. The people counting pennies are the only ones on earth who want PG13.
post #393 of 2359
Wow, trailer looks incredible. Can't wait!

Ridley is definitely one of my favorited directors.
post #394 of 2359
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Originally Posted by scoogs View Post

Is that the ship from Alien that is shown crashing?

If it's not the same one, it sure looks like the exact design from Giger. The Chair and room look on the money, sans pilot. This time the entire circle was made instead of just 40%. On my 27 inch 2560X1440 screen, the detail is amazing.
post #395 of 2359
Wow this looks good. Kind of want it to be rated r
post #396 of 2359
Well Ridley presented Pg13 version and a rated R version lets see what fox releases..if not maybe we'll get both cuts I. The bluray version! Let's keep our fingers crossed for Rated R version!!
post #397 of 2359
if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one—I always figured it's a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn't a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?


This is something of a spoiler.
However, now we know the riddle of the Space Jockey.
post #398 of 2359
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one—I always figured it's a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn't a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?


This is something of a spoiler.
However, now we know the riddle of the Space Jockey.

Not really a spoiler. The idea of chasing down the SJ's origin started with Giler & Scott right after A1. Harlin wanted to go there for A3 before he bailed out. The chair design was so dense, it left a lot of things open. It was certainly humanoid in shape, so suit or no suit? SJ a maker/engineer? SJ is something created by the engineers for the task? We don't get to meet the makers in this film?

The boards are running wild with speculation & Pocahontas is not on the menu
post #399 of 2359
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Originally Posted by _thx1138_ View Post

Well Ridley presented Pg13 version and a rated R version lets see what fox releases..if not maybe we'll get both cuts I. The bluray version! Let's keep our fingers crossed for Rated R version!!

BS man, we shouldn't get a dumbed down version of a story that is historically mature and visceral by nature to widen the perspective audience. It still looks amazing and I WILL see it but I want to see the most raw and unfiltered version of RS's vision for this story as possible.
post #400 of 2359
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Originally Posted by general kenobi View Post


bs man, we shouldn't get a dumbed down version of a story that is historically mature and visceral by nature to widen the perspective audience. It still looks amazing and i will see it but i want to see the most raw and unfiltered version of rs's vision for this story as possible.

+1
post #401 of 2359
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

Not really a spoiler. The idea of chasing down the SJ's origin started with Giler & Scott right after A1. Harlin wanted to go there for A3 before he bailed out. The chair design was so dense, it left a lot of things open. It was certainly humanoid in shape, so suit or no suit? SJ a maker/engineer? SJ is something created by the engineers for the task? We don't get to meet the makers in this film?

I find the SJ thing described as a "suit" as not very convincing.
To me, it looked like a skeleton.

And if it was a suit, for a humanoid, it would be for one big MF of a humanoid.
post #402 of 2359
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

To me, it looked like a skeleton.

So do most of things in that ship. I don't see any reason why aliens have to follow earth fashion.

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And if it was a suit, for a humanoid, it would be for one big MF of a humanoid.

May be from planet Psychlo http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Psychlo
post #403 of 2359
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I find the SJ thing described as a "suit" as not very convincing.
To me, it looked like a skeleton.

And if it was a suit, for a humanoid, it would be for one big MF of a humanoid.

Granted, but given the bio-mek design of things in the original, you could argue the size of anything having to do with this species is up for grabs.

Remember this is Ridley. Someone complained "there's no smoke in space" and his reply "There Is Now Mate"

The trailer is doing a great job of sidetracking everyone with connections to the original.
The theistic goodies have yet to surface
post #404 of 2359
A little fun, and again more attempts to tie images to the past films

http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/...ler-breakdown/

and

http://cinematiccorner.blogspot.com/...heus.html#more
post #405 of 2359
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

A little fun, and again more attempts to tie images to the past films

http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/...ler-breakdown/

and

http://cinematiccorner.blogspot.com/...heus.html#more

Very cool. Thanks for the links.
post #406 of 2359
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

Trailer is up! holy crap this is going to be great!

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I will be happy if it is at least as good as the Alien Vs Predator movies.

Good as they? That's a low ball for any movie.
post #407 of 2359
More Fun - This treatment connects up to the 12th paragraph, where it falls off the rails.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/...read/192751314

The fast transforming 'Mountain Dew' seems to be a recurring theme.
post #408 of 2359
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

More Fun - This treatment connects up to the 12th paragraph, where it falls off the rails.

I hope that the leaked story isn't accurate to this movie. It does fall off the rails at that point but to me, it looses its steam at 9th paragraph.
post #409 of 2359
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

More Fun - This treatment connects up to the 12th paragraph, where it falls off the rails.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/...read/192751314

The fast transforming 'Mountain Dew' seems to be a recurring theme.

Gotta pass....I just can't bear (bare?) the thought of knowing everything before going in....
I've waited too damn long for this movie (and I like surprises).
post #410 of 2359
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

More Fun - This treatment connects up to the 12th paragraph, where it falls off the rails.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/...read/192751314

The fast transforming 'Mountain Dew' seems to be a recurring theme.

That's a fan-created plot summary originally posted @ IMDb back in August.

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Originally Posted by Robotpo @ IMDb 8/4/11 View Post

Hey guys...long time lurker, first time poster. Seeing as the rumors, speculation, and occasional fact about Prometheus seems to be streaming forward fairly frequently now, thought I'd try my hand at putting together my own plot summary based on what little we know and what I can see happening.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/.../186534938?p=1
post #411 of 2359
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Gotta pass....I just can't bear (bare?) the thought of knowing everything before going in....
I've waited too damn long for this movie (and I like surprises).

Same here! Feel like I've been waiting almost 20 years for this movie.

Trailer is awesome - I think I'm going on media blackout after seeing it though. Don't want any spoilers.
post #412 of 2359
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Originally Posted by RUR View Post

That's a fan-created plot summary originally posted @ IMDb back in August.

I couldn't help noticing the tone of Star Trek in that plot. Probably written by a trekky. It has many similarities to S. T. The Next Generation episode Time's Arrow.
In other words, it doesn't sound like something R. Scott would do.
post #413 of 2359
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Originally Posted by RUR View Post

That's a fan-created plot summary originally posted @ IMDb back in August.

Yes, I know. People are using chunks of last years fake scripts as well. A few are entertaining and none are spoil material IMO.

Best of the bunch was Harvest and Shadow19. Actual script compositions. Someone did a lot of work and many of us enjoyed the stories. Better than 90% of what makes it onto film.
post #414 of 2359
I'll paste a plot by baldas from the Pmovie forum - he makes very interesting connections to the dead SJ in the ampule room, why it might end up on an inspection table and a purpose for the ship that looks like the original - incomplete but entertaining IMO

Let’s say that there’s a race, “The Gods”, that has mastered the creation of life and decides to implement their findings across the universe. They basically choose a number of hospitable planets for the races they created and populate those planets with the genetic seeds of life. Doing this on Earth would make up for the first few minutes of the movie, shot in Iceland, and would account for the trailer scene of the huge spaceship above the water fall.

The Gods also want to get to know their creations as soon as they reach a certain degree of technological evolution. What they do is to leave a map behind. However there is an intermediate step – these races must first travel to a planet (a kind of a Gateway – did anybody ever read Pohl’s “Gateway”?) where they are presented with the explanation of their past, a ship and another map. Two important notes: this Gateway is not LV 426; I don’t think we will actually see the Gods in the movie.

So the Prometheus crew travels to this Gateway, where they find a chamber (the Giant Human Head on the wall assures them that’s the right one, all right…) in which a set of urns with the basis for their DNA is unquestionable evidence that Humans were indeed created by The Gods.

The ever-curious crew will also find other chambers that hint at other races. This includes the Space Jockey, which also visited the Gateway in the past (more about this later)– in fact, the remains of one of them are found and its skull is scanned inside the ship. Looking forward to see the chamber with the Giant Space Jockey Head (yes, I’m speculating). Tinkering with the urns in other chambers will also mean finding some pretty nasty things and will lead to unwanted effects: mutations, deaths with varied degrees of pain and suffering, etc.

The Gods also provide a ship (or a hangar full of ships, in case They are not that worried with inventory management) – “derelict-shaped”, of course - so that the humans (and other races) can finally travel to their God home planet – hence the holographic space map in the trailer.

Now debating starts within the crew, according to their varied interests, beliefs or agendas: some will want to meet the Gods, some will want to go back to Earth and break the news and hopefully save the increasingly-mutated, some will be ambitious, some will be scared, the company guys will be keen on getting hold of the technology, David-the-android will consider using human DNA to become human, etc etc etc – plenty to justify the “multi-layered-plot” tag.

Finally most of the crew agrees on returning to Earth. Unfortunately The Gods have planted a safety system for races acting Prometheus-like and stealing their technology, which is activated after their derelict-shaped ship is commanded to go somewhere other than God planet. It might (yes, pure speculation) lock the pilot to the seat and use its DNA to mix with the goo deposited inside the urns on the cargo deck, hence creating a new unfriendly race to the pilot. No clue what this would look like, but probably not the best choice for a pet. Some of the resulting abominations will then kill most of the survivors and the ship would happily continue its trip to Earth in order to wipe out the Prometheus-like race (“they went looking for their beginning but what they find might mean their end”).

Fortunately the last-standing crew heroes (perhaps David-the-android-now-almost-human on an interesting act of selflessness towards the race he now feels he belongs to, yes I’m speculating) realize that to be the plan and crash the human ship onto the derelict-shaped ship thus saving humanity and leading Rapace and Theron to figure out it’s time for some jogging. No clue what happens to them afterwards, except that Rapace finds some time to record a message: “we were so wrong…” to decide to come back to Earth.
post #415 of 2359
Great speculation!
post #416 of 2359
Wow, Prometheus didn't even make the list.
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-...230155530.html

A few on the list, yeah, I can understand but some others...
post #417 of 2359
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Originally Posted by bcruiser View Post

Wow, Prometheus didn't even make the list.
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-...230155530.html

A few on the list, yeah, I can understand but some others...

You know what they say about the Internet and blogs...
post #418 of 2359
Perhaps the Prop Master's a fan of Fenix Lights. Looks just like a TK45 at her knee

http://pic.prometheusnews.net/NewElizabethShawImage.jpg
post #419 of 2359
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

Perhaps the Prop Master's a fan of Fenix Lights. Looks just like a TK45 at her knee

http://pic.prometheusnews.net/NewElizabethShawImage.jpg

OK, at the risk of sounding Very Stupid...what is a TK45?
post #420 of 2359
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OK, at the risk of sounding Very Stupid...what is a TK45?

Let me Google that for you.
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