Alien Prequel - Prometheus - Page 4

Originally Posted by Josh Z

Submitted for your consideration:

Legend
Someone to Watch Over Me
Black Rain
White Squall
G.I. Jane
Gladiator
Hannibal
A Good Year
Body of Lies

Frankly, I think he's made hardly any GOOD movies since Blade Runner.

Originally Posted by thedeskE

I doubt he'd make his long awaited venture back into space without a huge budget and a killer script.

Originally Posted by Josh Z




Submitted for your consideration:

Legend
Someone to Watch Over Me
Black Rain
White Squall
G.I. Jane
Gladiator
Hannibal
A Good Year
Body of Lies

Frankly, I think he's made hardly any GOOD movies since Blade Runner.

Originally Posted by Josh Z

"Oh, Maximus, wook at how sweaty and muscuwar you are. I just want to wub my hands all ovew you. But fewst I must pricky pricky prick you with my wittle poison bwade. And then I must mowest my nephew. Because I'm soooooooo eeeeeevil. Tee hee hee..."

Gladiator sucks. Hard. It should have won the Razzie in 2000, not the Oscar.

Originally Posted by Josh Z

"Oh, Maximus, wook at how sweaty and muscuwar you are. I just want to wub my hands all ovew you. But fewst I must pricky pricky prick you with my wittle poison bwade. And then I must mowest my nephew. Because I'm soooooooo eeeeeevil. Tee hee hee..."

Gladiator sucks. Hard. It should have won the Razzie in 2000, not the Oscar.

Originally Posted by oink

Like I said...no BAD movies.
Yeah, admittedly there have been some that can be classified as "fair."
I haven't seen all of the films in your list, but here goes:
Legend = highly underrated IMO...Tim Curry is the scariest Lucifer yet.
Black Rain = only fair, hasn't aged well.
Gladiator = very good...best of that year? Not so sure of that.
Body of Lies = only fair...sadly.
Sorry, I just haven't seen all of the films you listed.

Blackhawk Down = quite superb
Kingdom of Heaven = very good
American Gangster = good
Matchstick Men = fun, quirky, only fair


I certainly hope so...

Originally Posted by lwright84

So because you didn't enjoy Joaquin's performance (which I - like most everyone else - found creepy/disturbing and very effective) then the whole movie sucked hard? =/

Originally Posted by thedeskE

Just passed the commentary on Alien (Quad Set) and Ridley mentions twice his take on the Space Jockey. The ship is military and the eggs are a weapons cache, ready to be deployed.

Originally Posted by Josh Z

"Oh, Maximus, wook at how sweaty and muscuwar you are. I just want to wub my hands all ovew you. But fewst I must pricky pricky prick you with my wittle poison bwade. And then I must mowest my nephew. Because I'm soooooooo eeeeeevil. Tee hee hee..."

Gladiator sucks. Hard. It should have won the Razzie in 2000, not the Oscar.

Originally Posted by gaffo


no mention of the cool movie The Duelists? - for shame for shame. ;-). Harvey Kietel(sp) is sssssssssssooooooooooo good in that one! superb cinematography too.

I actually liked Body of Lies more than most of those in the list above.

Originally Posted by Josh Z

Gladiator sucked for a billion reasons. That's just the most egregious of them.

Originally Posted by gaffo

first off the alien body was fossilized, so that "should" rule out any human contact that could re-date that ships crash landing.

shoudl be about a small settler ship that lands in the Alien home planet and all humans die - not word of the fate back on Earth, thus no knowledge of human contact with alien lifeform back on earth

Originally Posted by Raptorsys

OK, first up, the best of the series was, in MY view, Alien -- the original. Why? Well the other ones were ACTION movies whereas Alien was a scifi HORROR movie that used suspence, mood, lighting, PACE etc to BUILD to something bigger. The other movies, however well made, were just action movies.

Now, if there is going to be a new movie, a prequel, then please god let it make heavy use of Geiger's artwork and tell us how the space jockey got there. I want a DARK, stylistic piece that scares us obliquely without stooping for the action movie method. Give the audience time to scare themselves with what they THINK might happen instead of hitting them over the head with gun wielding types spraying bullets in all directions without end.

The original movie was not, however, all that original in concept! Some of you may remember "It! The terror from beyond space!" and it would be hard to view Alien without seeing many of the plot tricks in the ITTFBS in Alien. For me, the thing that put Alien over the top was H.R. Geiger. The scene were they discover the space jockey is, amazing, and I want to know who he/she/IT was and how IT got there. Also of interest is how the company knew about it.


Brian

Originally Posted by gaffo

The Romans (outside of the Nobility - i.e. power corrupts - same corruption that the English and French nobility suffered many centuries later) as a people were quite civilized. They had the sense to learn from the Greeks before them, in both philosophical ideas and hard science, not to mention art and architecture. I'm sure they learn how to fight better due to their troubles with the Goths and Gauls too.

Romans always had the ability to take other's land and take from the conquered people the most valuable traits they had. They also had the wisdom to offer those same conquered people Roman citizenship. They were a smart and adaptable people. Their concept of "Roman citizenship" was the first in the world and served the "apostle" Paul well - many times.

Originally Posted by lordcloud

Alien 3 wasn't an action movie. It was far more similar to Alien than Aliens.

Originally Posted by IAM4UK

Alien: Phenomenal horror movie with great direction and acting throughout.
Aliens: Fine action movie with plenty of visual treats and lots of fun to experience.
Alien^3: Atmospheric, moody, bleak, and bold. Should have been the end. Highly underrated.
Alien Res.: Trash. Only one worthwhile scene in the entire movie (when Ripley encountered failed res attempts).
AvP and Requiem: Didn't watch; cannot comment.

Alien Prequel: Ridley Scott makes great movies, so I am hopeful for this project. The logical storyline would include telling how the derelict got into the situation they were in at the start of the 1979 film.

Originally Posted by IAM4UK

Alien: Phenomenal horror movie with great direction and acting throughout.
Aliens: Fine action movie with plenty of visual treats and lots of fun to experience.
Alien^3: Atmospheric, moody, bleak, and bold. Should have been the end. Highly underrated.
Alien Res.: Trash. Only one worthwhile scene in the entire movie (when Ripley encountered failed res attempts).
AvP and Requiem: Didn't watch; cannot comment.

Alien Prequel: Ridley Scott makes great movies, so I am hopeful for this project. The logical storyline would include telling how the derelict got into the situation they were in at the start of the 1979 film.

Originally Posted by oink

I agree...definitely not an action movie.
And I believe it to be the most OVER-RATED of the 4 films.

Originally Posted by rezzy

On one hand, A3 had a great concept in that guns weren't fired-off every five minutes; they had to use their brains. On the other hand, it completely negates the awesome finale "transfomer-battle" between Ripley and the Queen in A2. As someone here previously mentioned, she went through all that to save Newt....and it was for nothing?

Originally Posted by lordcloud


I like the fact that Newt died to start it off. Her dying was just as probable as her living and it got away from the stupidly positive typical Hollywood movie where all the main characters live to see another day. It almost reminded me of a foreign movie in that way.

It was also a good way to make it not only Ripley vs the alien, but to start off, Ripley vs the inmates.

Originally Posted by oink

After all Ripley went thru and yet, Newt dies after being heroically rescue.
Tragic, but not inconceivable (no one ever said: life is fair).

The problem with A3, IMO, is not only the execution of plot; it is also the basic story itself.
Landing on a prison planet is one thing...landing on a prison planet ostensibly run by religiously-crazed inmates is another.
A seriously lame and flawed plot can only go so far before it becomes silly.

Originally Posted by Raptorsys

OK, first up, the best of the series was, in MY view, Alien -- the original. Why? Well the other ones were ACTION movies whereas Alien was a scifi HORROR movie that used suspence, mood, lighting, PACE etc to BUILD to something bigger. The other movies, however well made, were just action movies.

Now, if there is going to be a new movie, a prequel, then please god let it make heavy use of Geiger's artwork and tell us how the space jockey got there. I want a DARK, stylistic piece that scares us obliquely without stooping for the action movie method. Give the audience time to scare themselves with what they THINK might happen instead of hitting them over the head with gun wielding types spraying bullets in all directions without end.

The original movie was not, however, all that original in concept! Some of you may remember "It! The terror from beyond space!" and it would be hard to view Alien without seeing many of the plot tricks in the ITTFBS in Alien. For me, the thing that put Alien over the top was H.R. Geiger. The scene were they discover the space jockey is, amazing, and I want to know who he/she/IT was and how IT got there. Also of interest is how the company knew about it.


Brian

Originally Posted by oink

The problem with A3, IMO, is not only the execution of plot; it is also the basic story itself.
Landing on a prison planet is one thing...landing on a prison planet ostensibly run by religiously-crazed inmates is another.
A seriously lame and flawed plot can only go so far before it becomes silly.

Originally Posted by oink

Are you talking about the Romans?
Those folks that thought violence against the weak was a cool form of entertainment?
That believed slaughtering their weaker neighbors for their gold and stuff was a civic duty?
That anyone who wasn't a Roman was a barbarian that deserved whatever fate the Empire thought was appropriate?

The reality is they were a morally bankrupt people with little sense of compassion for others.

Originally Posted by sb1

...after recently catching Aliens on cable, damn.......talk about large amounts of cheese. Time wasn't kind to that movie for me.