And by the way… any talk of this being PG-13 was just publicity working overtime. There is no f-ing way this movie was ever going out as anything less than an R.
I tried reading it, but instead found myself skimming it and then halfway through I abandoned it. I know it's "spoiler-free", but I found it revealed too many details for me. I want to go in with a blank slate!
I tried reading it, but instead found myself skimming it and then halfway through I abandoned it. I know it's "spoiler-free", but I found it revealed too many details for me. I want to go in with a blank slate!
Fair Enough
Some of the reviews can't stop talking about the old series. They can't leave it alone.
Of all people Empire online who's specialty is Sci-Fi is giving a very negative review. It's still early but doesn't really matter if it's 1 star or 5 most of us is still going to see it regardless. But this was their verdict. This seems to be the trend, stunning visuals/poor script. Sound familair? (avatar)
Verdict
Buffeted by a lack of suspense, threadbare characters, and a very poor script, the stunning visuals, gloopy madness, and sterling Fassbenderiness can’t prevent Prometheus feeling like Alien’s poor relation.
But, But it has been my experience, the consensus of this forum's "regulars" is the most VALID source of critical judgment regarding all things "movies" available on the Net....
THERE...I said it.
Why is anyone concerned about spoilers? After simply allowing the TV trailers to wash over me like a warm, revealing rain during the past couple of months, I'm pretty sure I understand the entire storyline. Behold, all the answers! Read at your own risk, suckahs:
Seems like the earthlings do a kamikaze run on the alien ship to keep it from getting to earth and doing what evil aliens always do when they get to earth - destroy us all! But why? All we need to do is plant a clever computer virus into their ship's system that will start a series of small explosions which will lead to larger explosions which will end up engulfing the alien ship in a huge fireball. Mission accomplished! Instead, those boneheads apparently try to do it the hard way. Don't they still have movies in the future? *sigh*
That said, my wife has made me promise to see it with her first in 2-D (saturation advertising works!), then I can go see it with my buddy in 3-D. So, even though I'm quite confident I know the entire plotline and there will be no surprises, I'm going to see it twice. Why? Because Ridley Scott is, you know, a God and He will deliver a dark, visual spectacle. And that's the only thing that gets me out of my home theater and into a real one these days.
Of all people Empire online who's specialty is Sci-Fi is giving a very negative review. It's still early but doesn't really matter if it's 1 star or 5 most of us is still going to see it regardless. But this was their verdict. This seems to be the trend, stunning visuals/poor script. Sound familair? (avatar)
Verdict
Buffeted by a lack of suspense, threadbare characters, and a very poor script, the stunning visuals, gloopy madness, and sterling Fassbenderiness can't prevent Prometheus feeling like Alien's poor relation.
Admittedly I haven't read it but a big part of the problem, frankly with any movie that involves the ending "quel", is that so much of a comparison is made to the previous experience that many are unable to appreciate a movie in self contained form. And I believe much imagination is lost and many expect certain details to be handed to them on a silver platter.
Reviews and reports still pouring in. Mostly in the "good but not great" range, with a few frothing at the mouth, and some outright negative reviews.
Many months ago I'd worried (like some others):
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Neat but...
I've got a creeping feeling that this (apparently) "chariots of the Gods" direction taken in Prometheus could end up sabotaging the film with a sort of fuzzy, vague, pretentious-but-thin theme.
Hopefully they won't go too fluffy. Still hoping...
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Originally Posted by R Harkness
After becoming a frothing-at-them-mouth Ridley Scott fan after those two movies (Alien/Bladerunner), he did little but disappoint film after film, following that. The typical problem with a Scott film was the thin, or wooden, or stock/unbelievable scripts and acting. You could see what they were going for, but it always rang cheesy or flat. Sometimes that made the gorgeous visuals for me almost annoying as in "You've done such a great job with the look of the movie, WHY can't you just deliver drama and characters that are moving or feel real along with it?"
The exceptions, for me at least, are the standard: Thelma and Louis, Gladiator...where suddenly Scott looks like an actor's director again. But outside of those, lots more movies with great visuals and incompetent drama.
This is one of the main ways I'm afraid Prometheus may disappoint: What looks in the trailer like some good actors with meaty parts may turn out, in long form, to be one-note characters that we don't really connect with. I hope not. It would be absolutely awesome if this movie ends up combining great production design with great acting. But the main body of Scott's work temper's my optimism.
And unfortunately the common theme running through almost every review, positive or negative, is exactly the above: it tried to to too much, is over-awed at it's own themes but thin in actual consideration of those themes, and cursed with lots of wooden, unbelievable script writing and characters we don't connect with (save perhaps a couple).
Still hoping it produces more of a positive reaction when I see it next Friday.
The problem is really stupid moves in movie making (e.g. lazy writing in which characters doing groan-inducing, silly actions simply to make something happen) tend to grate on me big time.
I'm watching Alien tonight with a pal. At least I have that sure-fire pleasure to look forward to.
A bit of a rant, inspired by looking at other forums: I've been watching the reactions across the web for this film and there is just a ridiculous level of bitchiness in the comments, especially on the technical, sci-fi, Prometheus or AVP forums. Should anyone who has actually seen the movie complain about it's problems they are leapt upon by "faithful" who haven't even seen it "It's so obvious you went in there with the wrong attitude" "Oh, the French didn't like it? Who takes the French seriously anyway?" There's so much rationalization going on. Most annoying is should any reviewer make comparisons to Alien they are lambasted for being "stupid" enough to compare what is an original movie to Alien. But of course it's entirely valid to compare it to Alien. Alien is one of the MAIN REASONS anyone cares about this film - because THE GUY WHO DIRECTED ALIEN is back doing an Alien-related movie! The disappointment often expressed in comparison to Alien isn't because "it wasn't Alien" by aping it's plot or exact universe. Rather, it's a comparison to the QUALITY of work in Alien - the impeccable casting, acting, editing, production design, pacing, music etc., and the way it featured adults who actually looked and sounded like adults. It combined intelligence with great craft. All those qualities are the ones everyone HOPES Ridley Scott brings to Prometheus because there is such a lack of this level of movie making, especially sci-fi movie making. So should Prometheus disappoint, lack the virtues and quality of movie making we hoped for from the director of earlier sci fi classics, it's entirely justifiable to highlight these failing next to Alien.
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It's been years since I've watched any of the Aliens movies and I'm going to keep it that way for now. I don't want to get too locked into that feel and imagery only to establish out of line expectations for Prometheus.
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Thanx.
Did it and done it.
Ordered the 3D/BD combo pack (eventually I'll be buying some 3D hardware).
Just as an FYI as I don't know if this movie will be good, but the Blade Runner reviews when it came out were pretty darn negative. It took some repeated viewing and the fact that it seemed to age very well that people started appreciating the movie (although some still hate it).
You're right. Seems those who go in with a preconceived Alien notion and those who believe it will be separate story both come away a little disgruntled. Here's a fun review. Spoils with a sense of humor