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post #781 of 912
1/14/10 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by IIDexII View Post

Right, but what if the firmware is larger than the minimum amount of memory on the player??

That is why it is smart to have extra memory card installed.

My player stated that it downloaded the firmware onto my SDcard before it was installed.

Not happening. Firmware is usually less than 30MB. Players are required to have 128MB.

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post #782 of 912
1/14/10 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by IIDexII View Post

Right, but what if the firmware is larger than the minimum amount of memory on the player??

That is why it is smart to have extra memory card installed.

Okay, you are wrong - stop repeating things that aren't true. All Profile 2.0 players (of which the 2010 is one) must have 1.0 gigabytes of storage built in to them (which the 2010 does). The firmware is a tiny, tiny, tiny portion of that and you absolutely, completely, entirely do NOT require an SD card for firmware upgrades. The SD cards are used for downloading and playing internet content only. It is not "smart" to have extra memory installed unless you access a crapload of web content.
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post #783 of 912
1/14/10 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by soundlovr View Post

Okay, you are wrong - stop repeating things that aren't true. All Profile 2.0 players (of which the 2010 is one) must have 1.0 gigabytes of storage built in to them (which the 2010 does). The firmware is a tiny, tiny, tiny portion of that and you absolutely, completely, entirely do NOT require an SD card for firmware upgrades. The SD cards are used for downloading and playing internet content only. It is not "smart" to have extra memory installed unless you access a crapload of web content.

That part is actually not true. They do not have to have 1GB built in. It just needs to be available through another source, i.e. an sd card. The 2010 does not have that much built in. It has the minimum 128mb, maybe 256. Refer to page 28 of the manual in the notes. BDLive that requires memory insert a 1GB card. The Panasonics don't have it built in either. The Samsung 3600 does, but the 1600 does not. It would be nice if they did, especially at 699. But it is not mandatory.

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post #784 of 912
1/15/10 at 1:25am
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Originally Posted by soundlovr View Post

Okay, you are wrong - stop repeating things that aren't true. All Profile 2.0 players (of which the 2010 is one) must have 1.0 gigabytes of storage built in to them (which the 2010 does). The firmware is a tiny, tiny, tiny portion of that and you absolutely, completely, entirely do NOT require an SD card for firmware upgrades. The SD cards are used for downloading and playing internet content only. It is not "smart" to have extra memory installed unless you access a crapload of web content.

Ok, Im sorry.. just did what Denon told us to do.
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post #785 of 912
1/17/10 at 8:50am
Hi All,

Been a while since my last post about the 2010CI.

Always been running the latest firmware, and I always had an 8GB card installed, even though I don't use the BD-Live stuff. Anyway after watching a slew of Netflix BD rentals and many BD's from Xmas, I haven't seen a hang / lag in any movie now since late October.

All the best....

Jeff
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post #786 of 912
1/17/10 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by Jetsurgeon View Post

Hi All,

Been a while since my last post about the 2010CI.

Always been running the latest firmware, and I always had an 8GB card installed, even though I don't use the BD-Live stuff. Anyway after watching a slew of Netflix BD rentals and many BD's from Xmas, I haven't seen a hang / lag in any movie now since late October.

All the best....

Jeff

I think we're getting to the point when we can declare the freeze issue fixed!
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post #787 of 912
1/18/10 at 12:50am
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Originally Posted by mulio2005 View Post

Hello, and Happy new year to everybody,

I installed the latest fw a couple of weeks back, and i experienced a freeze yesterday.

We were watching a hired DVD titled "INKHEART" and the freeze occured past the middle of the film. It lasted about 3s.

So i can't say that the issue is solved.

DENON never answered to my request concerning this issue, although i insisted by sending repeated mails.

Regards.

I do not think the issue is solved as per my own experience !

And I have made the last FW update.
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post #788 of 912
1/18/10 at 8:13am
I also have never noticed a freeze since last firmware, and Ive watched a bunch of dvds and bds. Almost all bds were Universal titles.

And I also use an 8Gigabyte SDcard installed in the player.
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post #789 of 912
1/18/10 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by mulio2005 View Post

I do not think the issue is solved as per my own experience !

And I have made the last FW update.


Did the picture "hang" on the "Inkhart"DVD or did the picture go to black for 3 sec?
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post #790 of 912
1/18/10 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by mulio2005 View Post

Hello, and Happy new year to everybody,

I installed the latest fw a couple of weeks back, and i experienced a freeze yesterday.

We were watching a hired DVD titled "INKHEART" and the freeze occured past the middle of the film. It lasted about 3s.

So i can't say that the issue is solved.

DENON never answered to my request concerning this issue, although i insisted by sending repeated mails.

Regards.

could this have been a bad layer change?
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post #791 of 912
1/18/10 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by IIDexII View Post

Did the picture "hang" on the "Inkhart"DVD or did the picture go to black for 3 sec?

The picture just freezed for a 3sec time.
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post #792 of 912
1/18/10 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

could this have been a bad layer change?

Maybe. But it was not reproducible when I tried to rewind and replay at the same point on the disc.
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post #793 of 912
1/19/10 at 5:59pm
Just tried to load the BD Gamer on My Marantz BD7004. Will not load properly. Gets hung on the java ticker and then all the previews are only displayed in a tiny square of the screen. Anyone else try this?
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post #794 of 912
1/20/10 at 6:00am
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Just tried to load the BD Gamer on My Marantz BD7004. Will not load properly. Gets hung on the java ticker and then all the previews are only displayed in a tiny square of the screen. Anyone else try this?

It played like normal on my Denon2010 with no problems of any kind... Pretty cool movie with good soundeffects...
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post #795 of 912
1/20/10 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by IIDexII View Post

It played like normal on my Denon2010 with no problems of any kind... Pretty cool movie with good soundeffects...

remind me where you are - scandinavia, right? might just be the us release that's goofy.
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post #796 of 912
1/20/10 at 6:34am
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Just tried to load the BD Gamer on My Marantz BD7004. Will not load properly. Gets hung on the java ticker and then all the previews are only displayed in a tiny square of the screen. Anyone else try this?

I got it. I'll try it on my Denon tonight. Is this a Lionsgate title? Sounds like an error I got on other Lionsgate titles (My Bloody Valentine) with my Panasonic and Samsung.

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post #797 of 912
1/20/10 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

I got it. I'll try it on my Denon tonight. Is this a Lionsgate title? Sounds like an error I got on other Lionsgate titles (My Bloody Valentine) with my Panasonic and Samsung.

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i tried it thrice on my marantz 7004. could not get it to denon 2010 - too close to sleeping baby and angry wife. played without issue on pioneer 23 and oppo, so do not think it's the disc.
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post #798 of 912
1/21/10 at 4:27am
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

remind me where you are - scandinavia, right? might just be the us release that's goofy.

Yes, Scandinavia.
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post #799 of 912
1/22/10 at 3:15pm
Tried Gamer Last night and I too had a problem loading it. Actually I never got it to do anything but play the previews in the little box. Not even a full picture in the little box just a piece of a puzzle. could this be related to BD Live? Also at the begining of it trying to load a screen shows "checking for Updates" and then disappears quickly. I dont know anything about BD Live but doent it use the picture in picture feature? Can anybody help?
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post #800 of 912
1/22/10 at 3:18pm
Maybe Denon will issue a new firmware to fix this too.
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post #801 of 912
1/22/10 at 3:34pm
Since it was being discussed here, I just updated my 1610 from 1.006 to 1.008 without ever inserting a SD Card.
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post #802 of 912
1/22/10 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by IIDexII View Post

Maybe Denon will issue a new firmware to fix this too.

they will - we just need to notify them
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post #803 of 912
1/22/10 at 5:28pm
For those having problems with "Gamer", plan on having an SD card installed anytime you play a Lionsgate title. I have had similar problems with other Lionsgate titles on various players when no memory card is installed (Crank 2, My Bloody Valentine, etc.). They s***. I'm watching it now on the 2010 and it works perfectly with the card installed, not without.

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post #804 of 912
1/22/10 at 7:24pm
so have you tried to play without the card? If so did it stall
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post #805 of 912
1/22/10 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by rkingce View Post

so have you tried to play without the card? If so did it stall

Yeap. Small little box. Same thing I've seen from other Lionsgate titles on my other brand players. I learned a long time ago to just have it installed anytime I play a Lionsgate title. I was just testing it and it did as I expected.

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post #806 of 912
1/22/10 at 9:06pm
Yes the SD card worked........ I guess the 2010 is a bit shy on memory. That might solve a lot of other issues too, I wonder how many who have cards installed have issues compared to ones who dont?????
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post #807 of 912
1/23/10 at 2:45am
I gave up on Denon. I bought an Anthem. The PQ and SQ are far ahead of the Denon and so far no freezing, loads faster, all around better player
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post #808 of 912
1/23/10 at 5:37am
So maybe its smart to have an SDcard in there... anyway.
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post #809 of 912
1/23/10 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by MSGUSA View Post

I need the opinion of 2-channel (through HDMI) music listeners. My 14-month old Panasonic BD55 is about ready to die. Since I have a Denon 2809CI, I'm thinking of buying the 2010CI.

If I'm listening to "Bitstream" 2-channel uncompressed CD music through HDMI how much will the following Denon "features" improve the sound reproduction over the BD55, if any?

1. Separated Unit Structure chassis architecture, which divides critical processing stages to prevent mutual interference.

2. Center-mounted advanced drive mechanism features a low center of gravity for optimum stability.

3. Chassis features multi-layer construction for the utmost rigidity and freedom from vibration-induced distortion.

Lastly, is it true that the 2010 uses the same head mechanism as the Panasonic 55/80 models?

Thanks.

I think you'll find the DACs in the denon to be miles ahead of your panny. That said, the two apparently share a lot of the same video components (save the abt processor). Picture quality is better in part because of the abt hcip. most of what you have quoted above is marketing gravy, but it remains a solodly built player.
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post #810 of 912
1/23/10 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

For those having problems with "Gamer", plan on having an SD card installed anytime you play a Lionsgate title. I have had similar problems with other Lionsgate titles on various players when no memory card is installed (Crank 2, My Bloody Valentine, etc.). They s***. I'm watching it now on the 2010 and it works perfectly with the card installed, not without.

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even if with bd live disabled?
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