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post #61 of 141
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The Panasonic has the built in feature that it will remember the display format for 480i signals and 16:9 or HD signals separately.

Use the format button on a standard definition signal (480i) to get the picture to the proper 4:3 format, after that the TV should remember that format for displaying all 480i signals.

My cable box always seems to say 1080i hence the "regular" channels are stretched. If I pick 4:3 from the Panasonic remote all it does is chop off the left and right sides.
post #62 of 141
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Originally Posted by MRL325i View Post

My cable box always seems to say 1080i hence the "regular" channels are stretched. If I pick 4:3 from the Panasonic remote all it does is chop off the left and right sides.

I'm not sure how other cable boxes work but I have a HD Motorola Box for Comcast. When the box's power is off I can access the menu by pressing the menu button. This brings up a text based menu that allows me to change my resolution settings on the box such as whether all my programming is at 720p or 1080i, HDMI settings, color, stereo output, it even has somethings for 480i or 480p resolutions.

From you're previous post it sounds like you have an different box but see if you can figure out a way to access it's menu system and see what it says. Try googling the model number of worse comes to worse call your provider. Your box may very well have an override setting that makes everything 1080i even when it should be 480i.
post #63 of 141
I was just going to reply...

A reboot of the box solved everything. Good to go now. Thanks.
post #64 of 141
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TIP:

A remote that controls your TV, Cable Box, DVD and VCR is available. It was standard on many of last year's models.

The part number is N2QAYB000220

Google the part number and you will see a number of vendors selling new units. I bought mine through an e-bay vendor for under $15.

Programming instructions and remote codes for your other electronics are in the manual that came with the TC-37LZ800, look on the Panasonic support site for an electronic copy.

The older remote does NOT have these buttons that are on the remote that came with the TV: CC and 'Viera Tools'.

The Input button is called TV/Video on the older remote.

Some of the buttons are in different places on the two remotes. For example, the Menu button is in the position occupied by your Viera Tools button. (Much better from my perspective.)

I think the older remote is a great addition to my TV. I just ordered another for the other side of the bed. It makes much more sense to me than a generic remote since it can access all of the features of our TV with the proper buttons.
post #65 of 141
Thanks LeRoy. I just bought one.

We really do enjoy the Panny 37"S...great TV.
post #66 of 141
Thanks from me as well LeRoyK, I never would have known about the remote if not for your tip.
post #67 of 141
[quote=LeRoyK;16693795]I bought one of these for my bedroom last week. I will use this thread to share what I observe about this TV, and answer questions about the set. This will be a good spot for other owners to share with the larger community of TC-L37S1 owners.
Viewing angle from side to side is very good for an LCD with little graying out as one moves to either side. Viewing angle from the top or the bottom is not so good. Viewing the screen from slightly above or below will turn the blacks into dark gray. If you plan to use the provided stand, try to get the center of the TV up to a seated viewer's eye level. I am using a wall mount and have it about 3-4 feet above the top of the bed. I use the tilt of my wall mount to angle the TV down a bit. This gives me the best blacks this set is capable of even though the center of the TV is higher than eye level.




I'm interested in a L37S1 for inside our entertainment center in the living room. My concern is that we will be sitting slightly below the bottom of the TV so we will be looking up about 20-30 degrees. Will this be a good choice for us or can you recommend another TV that would be better?
Thanks Dave
post #68 of 141
nah, it does get a fair bit lighter when viewing just a little higher or below the TV, but when I stand up, I'm probably looking down at a 45-50 degree angle.
post #69 of 141
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Originally Posted by Snow90 View Post

nah, it does get a fair bit lighter when viewing just a little higher or below the TV, but when I stand up, I'm probably looking down at a 45-50 degree angle.

It stay the same at all angle. The color won't shift in any angle.
post #70 of 141
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thinkdave-

If the tv fits in your entertainment center, it should work out. You may be able to shim the rear of the stand to get the few degrees needed to get the best blacks out of the TV. Just make sure to tether the back of the TV to somewhere inside the entertainment center for safety so there is no danger of it coming out if a child tugs on it.
post #71 of 141
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Originally Posted by LeRoyK View Post

I have not tried to use the VGA port. All of the LCD tv's I have seen have not been able to display native resolution with them. This TV is in that group.

The HDMI interface works fine for 1080p resolution. There is a setting in one of the menus to turn overscan off with a 1080p signal.

PC use at 720p is a problem, it is always overscanned. I have not found a way to turn off overscan in 720p mode over HDMI.

Why would you want 720p from your computer? Lots of computers can't run Hulu fullscreen at 1080p, but some of them run Hulu fullscreen very well at 720p. I have one like that, luckily it is attached to my other TV which does 720p without overscan.

My only problem is that Panasonic touts the fact that it has a PC input but leaves out the fact that it's greatly limited in resolution by that input. I have it sitting here ready to replace my Westinghouse but now I'm waiting for a DVI->HDMI cable to arrive so I can use it. Panasonic should put in their advertising that the TV accepts computer 1920x1080 resolution by HDMI instead of making a big point of having the essentially worthless PC input.
post #72 of 141
anybody watching any HD nfl games on this set...have a samsung 37B530 that i am thinking about sending back and trying this tv out...a little motion blur with the sammy
post #73 of 141
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Originally Posted by LeRoyK View Post

I have not tried to use the VGA port. All of the LCD tv's I have seen have not been able to display native resolution with them. This TV is in that group.

The HDMI interface works fine for 1080p resolution. There is a setting in one of the menus to turn overscan off with a 1080p signal.

PC use at 720p is a problem, it is always overscanned. I have not found a way to turn off overscan in 720p mode over HDMI.

Why would you want 720p from your computer? Lots of computers can't run Hulu fullscreen at 1080p, but some of them run Hulu fullscreen very well at 720p. I have one like that, luckily it is attached to my other TV which does 720p without overscan.

Anyone else having trouble running this at 60 hertz? My looks terrible and the only way I can watch it is at 24 hertz interlaced.
post #74 of 141
Has anyone enabled this option?

I'm not seeing much difference.

I not watching really fast moving images though so may be that's why.
post #75 of 141
i have a question for current s1 owners. i am a contributor in the g1 thread for the panasonic 37 inch g1 viera 120hz model. someone came on there the other night and said that the s1 has significant motion blur during sports scenes and fast moving action. can anyone verify or deny this? it will be an important piece in my decision regarding the g1.
post #76 of 141
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Originally Posted by ian02840 View Post

i have a question for current s1 owners. i am a contributor in the g1 thread for the panasonic 37 inch g1 viera 120hz model. someone came on there the other night and said that the s1 has significant motion blur during sports scenes and fast moving action. can anyone verify or deny this? it will be an important piece in my decision regarding the g1.

I haven't tried watching sports yet or anything really fast moving.

The anti-motion blur feature called "Motion Focus" is OFF by default - not exactly sure why.

I haven't really been able to tell much difference with it ON or OFF yet but like I said I've only watched movies so far.

It is interesting that it's off by default though. If it was such a great feature, it would be on by default.

That said, things look good to me. I don't notice any motion blurring for what I've seen so far.
post #77 of 141
I am looking to buy this tv for mainly pc use. From what I read if I am running at 1080p over HDMI I won't have any problems?
post #78 of 141
Hi there, I have a question about the S1 vs the G1, does the G1 run at 120 hz even with the motion pro off? Would I notice a difference on the S1 vs the G1 without any of the motion tech for gaming, tv or DVD (not blu-ray). Or should I just stick with the S1?
post #79 of 141
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I only have an S1, I saw a G1 in a store once. So I can't really compare. I find the motion acceptable on the S1. With or without their motion option on. (I have left it off since I tested it.) The G1 may or may not be worth the extra dollars for you. If it were going to be my main set, I think I would look a lot more closely at the G1. For my bedroom set, the S1 is just fine.
post #80 of 141
Thx for the input, has anyone play xbox 360 or PS3 on it? Ghosting? Input Lag?
post #81 of 141
For those who asked, the service menu is accessed by pressing "info" three times on the remote while holding the volume down button on the side of the tv. It appears to be exited by turning off the tv power.

I've adjust the user level picture controls by eye using test patterns from the old Video Essentials dvd. TV's are a lot better as compared to 10 years ago! I really have few complaints.

I would like to make minor adjustments to the horizontal and vertical position of the image as well as tweaking overscan amount.

I haven't ventured far into the service menu yet. Can anyone provide a pointer to a description of the parameters available? Without the proper test equipment, I don't plan to touch most of them, only the geometry controls that would usually be found on a computer monitor.

Thanks.
post #82 of 141
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Originally Posted by jice View Post


I've adjust the user level picture controls by eye using test patterns from the old Video Essentials dvd.

Do you use the set more for a DVD signal than a broadcast TV signal?
post #83 of 141
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Do you use the set more for a DVD signal than a broadcast TV signal?

Why do you ask?

Probably more with broadcast signal. Although, I'm more likely to watch a film (and care more) when viewing dvd or blu-ray. I did notice that the "color" setting I determined using the dvd seems a bit much for most all broadcast stations.

Seems that the picture (including the color) varies quite a bit between each broadcast station. Though, some seem quite a bit better than others.

I did notice that under the "Custom" setting, it seems that you can make different settings based on the source.

Do you have a better suggestion for calibration setting?
post #84 of 141
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Originally Posted by jice View Post

Why do you ask?

Probably more with broadcast signal. Although, I'm more likely to watch a film (and care more) when viewing dvd or blu-ray. I did notice that the "color" setting I determined using the dvd seems a bit much for most all broadcast stations.

Because of what you found out. You are now calibrated for a source you use less.

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Do you have a better suggestion for calibration setting?

I am partial to this free one.
post #85 of 141
I just received a TC-L37S1 yesterday and I'm a real novice. I'd like to mount it on the wall in my bedroom. I see where Panasonic lists an internal part number for a mount that they sell. Can someone tell me the generic (i.e. 200 x 200, 400 x 400) type of mount that will fit this set? Thanks.
post #86 of 141
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Originally Posted by cstu View Post

My only problem is that Panasonic touts the fact that it has a PC input but leaves out the fact that it's greatly limited in resolution by that input. I have it sitting here ready to replace my Westinghouse but now I'm waiting for a DVI->HDMI cable to arrive so I can use it. Panasonic should put in their advertising that the TV accepts computer 1920x1080 resolution by HDMI instead of making a big point of having the essentially worthless PC input.

Agreed. I'm thinking of ditching my TC-L32S1 only because it's useless for my purpose now. My laptop only has a VGA out. I'm researching now whether a VGA-to-component cable may work to use the component input. I think it will depend on whether my vid card and driver can manage the right signal.
post #87 of 141
This may not be an appropriate question so forgive me if I'm in the wrong. I may actually splurge on this set if it goes on sale during some type of holiday sale. Do those with HDTv buying experience think this type of set has a chance of dropping significantly during that time?
post #88 of 141
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Originally Posted by lilmoose View Post

I just received a TC-L37S1 yesterday and I'm a real novice. I'd like to mount it on the wall in my bedroom. I see where Panasonic lists an internal part number for a mount that they sell. Can someone tell me the generic (i.e. 200 x 200, 400 x 400) type of mount that will fit this set? Thanks.

I just got mine yesterday too. I didn't wall mount it, but it looks like the mounting spacing is a standard 200X200 VESA pattern
post #89 of 141
I understand this model has a headphone jack. Does that mean you can adjust the volume of the sound coming through the headphones via the tv's remote? If I plug a "Y" cable in the audio out rca jacks can I also adjust the volume that way? Or is the audio out fixed? I need a variable audio output so that I can adjust the speakers/headphones volume with the tv volume control.
post #90 of 141
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Originally Posted by milacqua View Post

I understand this model has a headphone jack. Does that mean you can adjust the volume of the sound coming through the headphones via the tv's remote? If I plug a "Y" cable in the audio out rca jacks can I also adjust the volume that way? Or is the audio out fixed? I need a variable audio output so that I can adjust the speakers/headphones volume with the tv volume control.

I just tested it. The TV speakers mute when you plug into the headphone socket, and the volume of the headphones changes with the normal TV controls. Looks like your plan will work.

The headphone connnection is on the left side panel, so you might want to pick up a right angle connector for improved appearance.
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