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post #91 of 141
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Originally Posted by LeRoyK View Post

I just tested it. The TV speakers mute when you plug into the headphone socket, and the volume of the headphones changes with the normal TV controls. Looks like your plan will work.

The headphone connnection is on the left side panel, so you might want to pick up a right angle connector for improved appearance.

Excellent! Thanks, that is what I needed to know. I started a thread in the plasma section a few days ago and someone told me that I needed to be careful, if I wanted to use headphones with a new tv, that there was a variable audio out. The poster told me many modern tvs do not have variable out rca jacks so if you plug headphones in them you are stuck with the fixed volume. And even fewer sets have dedicated headphone jacks. I was ready to buy a no name brand Dynex for that very reason as it was the only set I could find with a headphone jack. Knowing the Panny's volume out can be controlled now makes it a no brainer - I'm ordering one today!

I now have one more question. Is the headphone jack the mini jack kind (the same size as an MP3 player uses) or is it the large kind that is sometimes seen on amplifiers and receivers?
post #92 of 141
You will find that answer and lots of others here.
post #93 of 141
So it looks like I will be the first to do a video review for the Panasonic VIERA S1 Series TC-L37S1. I have a ps3 and iphone so expect them to be in the review. I didn't see any1 say anything about gaming but I have to beat uncharted 2, so expect the video review Wednesday.
post #94 of 141
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Originally Posted by josephandrews222 View Post

Thanks LeRoy. I just bought one.

We really do enjoy the Panny 37"S...great TV.

Day 1 with mine and I'm enjoying. Thinking of making a video review.
post #95 of 141
How to get the "enters store demonstration mode" to show up?

To display the “Please select your viewing environment” screen again as shown above and select “Home”, do one of the following: • Press and hold down the side POWER button. • Unplug the TV and plug it again.

I tried the above but it only shows the regular First Time Setup

the manual is very vague about some things I think.

thanks

edit: I found that only version 0160 has this function (and also some info screen and flicker free demo). version 0170 does not...
post #96 of 141
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Because of what you found out. You are now calibrated for a source you use less.

I am partial to this free one.

Thanks for the link. I look forward to checking it out.

However, I'm still not sure how you suggest calibrating for other sources (such as over the air tv). I will note, however, that this set has the ability to set different user settings on a per input source basis. I've done this (it's under "custom"). So, I have made minor changes between DVD/Blu-ray vs. tv (really only the color settings). That's a pretty nice feature to have an should mitigate your concern about optimizing for one source vs. another.

On the other hand, there are still a couple of UI choices that bug me:
  • Inability to easily toggle between Favorites and all channels (it's a setup item)
  • Inability to quickly toggle between full display and 5% over-scan modes (although it does help that it can be specified per source).

There is probably more, but my mind is blanking right now.
post #97 of 141
Headphone jack is the mini variety.

I currently own only a 2 channel stereo; so this is they way I have mine setup as well. Your plan should work. It is a bit awkward to have the jack on the side of the tv. In fact, I was a bit surprised at the relative paucity of analog i/o available, but so far, it's been sufficient for my setup (blu-ray, dvd, vcr, antenna in and 2 channel audio out).

My only audio related complaint is that the relative volume levels from my blu-ray player (also Panasonic connected via hdmi / vieracast) are a good bit louder than over the air tv or other sources. There doesn't seem to be a way to balance this. I need to remember to reduce my audio volume by about 20 on the tv remote each time I switch sources. Anyone find a solution to this?
post #98 of 141
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Originally Posted by lilmoose View Post

I just received a TC-L37S1 yesterday and I'm a real novice. I'd like to mount it on the wall in my bedroom. I see where Panasonic lists an internal part number for a mount that they sell. Can someone tell me the generic (i.e. 200 x 200, 400 x 400) type of mount that will fit this set? Thanks.

I use this wall mount with mine and it works great.
post #99 of 141
I'd like to thank all of you for posting your thoughts on this TV. Your posts were very helpful in making my decision to get the TC-L37S1.

I got it last Friday, and have it mounted on the bedroom wall. I have played around with it just a little, but I can tell you that so far I am 100% confident that I made the right choice.

I had the LG 37H30 which I just could not find a way to enjoy, and ended up returning it. In comparing these two, I can tell you that the Pani is definitely a better buy.

I do have one observation. I have it wall mounted. When I went to use the buttons on the side of it, the unit seemed to sway a bit from the bottom. I took a closer look at this by taking the TV off the wall. The movement was not from the wall mount, but the TV itself. It appears that the upper mounting screws holes are part of the TV frame itself. However the lower mounting screws appear to be part of the rear cover. In other words, when the wall mount arms are screwed into the lower part of the TV, it seems like that part of the mount arm is attached only the rear plastic shell. Not a complaint. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this.
post #100 of 141
I just recently got this TV because of the IPS-Alpha panel.
I connected it to my computer and booted it up and have very noticeable greyscale (im guessing this is the correct term) gradation on my desktop background....

further testing, i find not only greyscale but the color scales dont have the smoothest transitions.

there seems to be noticeable motion blur when playing games, although i dont feel much lag.
post #101 of 141
Hey guys.

I bought this TV from Dell for $480 dollars - works wonderfully so far.

I have a 1080p HDMI plug going to this Panny from my DVI video card, and I'm always stuck with about half-an-inch of blank space on the sides of the TV under "Full" setting. Anyone know how to resolve this? HD is set to 1. A setting of 2 makes it smaller.

Thanks!
post #102 of 141
Got this TV yesterday... Some of my findings/impressions..

First to answer ArchonII
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Originally Posted by ArchonII View Post

I have a 1080p HDMI plug going to this Panny from my DVI video card, and I'm always stuck with about half-an-inch of blank space on the sides of the TV under "Full" setting. Anyone know how to resolve this? HD is set to 1. A setting of 2 makes it smaller.

I tried outputting my laptop to it via HDMI and noticed that it wasn't doing 1:1 pixel mapping when displaying 1920x1080x60hz. There were small bars on the top/bottom/side. I changed the refresh rate to 59hz and that seemed to solve it. It works really good as a big 37" monitor



I really like cinema mode for movies. I still plan on calibrating, but cinema mode was a fairly good looking default (if you turn the sharpness down).

I played a bit of Tekken 6, and I did notice some blurriness, but I can't say for sure that the game doesnt normally look like that.

Black Level is decent for its price range and size, but when the screen is primarily dark, things tend to wash out. As someone else mentioned, unless you're dead center, black turns grey... Also if you have a PS3 and you go to the main menu screen (night time), when the background is black, and it shows waves of color, you can see how it appears washed out. It was more apparent when I compared it to another display that has good darks.

On another note, when there are a lot of bright colors on the screen, the display can produce some pretty dark levels. For example, in animated movies, if someone has dark hair, this display does a pretty good job of maintaining good contrast... I believe this is referred to as ANSI contrast.

Remember my notes are all relative to the price/size of the screen. Overall I'm happy so far.

Note: does anyone know what exactly that AI setting does? The book makes it sound like it deepens blacks without affecting anything else... Not sure I buy it, but I didnt have a chance to play with it.
post #103 of 141
I just bought this TV too. Looked pretty good against its competitiors at HHGregg. I will try to report more when I have it set up. With this weeks HHG sale coupon I paid less than what I was seeing for prices on line.
post #104 of 141
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Originally Posted by LeRoyK View Post

TIP:

A remote that controls your TV, Cable Box, DVD and VCR is available. It was standard on many of last year's models.

The part number is N2QAYB000220

Google the part number and you will see a number of vendors selling new units. I bought mine through an e-bay vendor for under $15.

Programming instructions and remote codes for your other electronics are in the manual that came with the TC-37LZ800, look on the Panasonic support site for an electronic copy.

The older remote does NOT have these buttons that are on the remote that came with the TV: CC and 'Viera Tools'.

The Input button is called TV/Video on the older remote.

Some of the buttons are in different places on the two remotes. For example, the Menu button is in the position occupied by your Viera Tools button. (Much better from my perspective.)

I think the older remote is a great addition to my TV. I just ordered another for the other side of the bed. It makes much more sense to me than a generic remote since it can access all of the features of our TV with the proper buttons.

I used LeroyK's info and went looking for this remote. While looking, I found out that the original remote for this TV can also be had for about $15.00 from the same sources. The original remote for this TV appears to be part number N2QAYB000321. The picure on the site matches what I have with the 37S1.
post #105 of 141
There is some additional info and settings in this thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...light=tc+l37s1
post #106 of 141
for I fear the answer is it can't be done...

How can I manually delete a channel on this set?
post #107 of 141
I like Custom. I turned the Sharpness down, and that's about it. Cable TV, PS3 Games, SD DVDs, Blu-Ray all look very good. Colors are bright, but not saturated. Colors look true to life, not overdone. HD is sharp, clear and detailed. SD TV is better than expected; it is better than just "watchable".

I've played a lot of PS3 Burnout Paradise, Battlefield : Bad Company, Dead Space, Lego Star Wars, Bioshock, Oblivion, and they all look very good to extremely good, with no motion blur, no tearing, no problems what -so-ever. Sd DVDs on this TV upconverted thru the PS3 are so good, I have stopped buying Blu-Ray.

Black Levels are very good; good enough that I don't care if Plasma is better. No problem with the PS3 menu, nothing washed out. Even at a 90 degree angle from center, colors and blacks do not change on any source.

I am very very impressed with this LCD. I like the L37S1 so much, I am going to buy a 2nd one tomorrow. I considered Plasma, but I do not want to put up with a Plasma's heat and weight. Not to mention the 120 to 200 hour break in; fooling around with settings and service menu.
post #108 of 141
I just bought this TV and .. i'm not sure i like it.

Only played around with it for a few mins with an Xbox 360 (HDMI 1080p). Everything seems really grainy, slightly washed out and pixelated. I have only tried Fable 2 and COD 4. The cut scenes in Fable 2 are very blocky. Mostly in the clouds. Other then that the in game just looks kinda rough. The "map parts" in COD 4 before missions are very grainy. In game looks kinda rough as well. Even the 360 menus looks kinda crappy.

Am i doing something wrong? lol
post #109 of 141
Hi,
I am considering this TV(TC-L37S1) for purchase. Its on the top of my list, however I am still contending the Samsung LN37B530. The one thing that might help make me a decision is - with which of these two TVs will do better with SD signal input (480i) like DVD or sd cable/sat. Would they be pretty close in this respect ? or does one outperform the other ?
Please advise.
Thanks!
post #110 of 141
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Originally Posted by fuctfuct View Post

I just bought this TV and .. i'm not sure i like it.

Only played around with it for a few mins with an Xbox 360 (HDMI 1080p). Everything seems really grainy, slightly washed out and pixelated. I have only tried Fable 2 and COD 4. The cut scenes in Fable 2 are very blocky. Mostly in the clouds. Other then that the in game just looks kinda rough. The "map parts" in COD 4 before missions are very grainy. In game looks kinda rough as well. Even the 360 menus looks kinda crappy.

Am i doing something wrong? lol

Probably nothing "wrong," but here are a few suggestions:

- I'm guessing you're using the Game picture mode; you may want to try using Standard or Custom. (This didn't seem to affect input lag for me. In any mode, Rock Band calibrates at 15ms, which is about as low as you can get for a non-CRT display.)

- Reduce the sharpness and/or contrast. Especially in Game mode, the picture is rather sharp by default.

- Try the different "Size" options. These turn overscan on and off, which may affect how the image is scaled, and may soften the appearance.

- Try using 720p instead of 1080p. Again, the scaling difference may have an effect. This wouldn't be an ideal solution, though.

Good luck!
post #111 of 141
Fedex delivered the 32" model to me today

I am loving it! I've been playing MW2 on my 360 via HDMI in game mode and feel like it is the equivalent to setting an LG lh20-30 HDMI label to "PC". Colors are vibrant and blacks are deep enough for me (enabled "Energy Saving").
post #112 of 141
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Originally Posted by LeRoyK View Post

To calibrate my set, I used an i1 color meter and the excellent software calibration package HCFR.

HCFR is a product of France. The software is free. A thread is devoted to the package in the calibration section of this forum. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=983943 The first post has a link to where you can obtain the software.

If you want to view the calibration files I post here, you will need to get that software. You won't need a color meter to view all of the data in the calibration files.

My first project was to measure what the TV did in the various modes using just the defaults. I had Power Save set to Saving for all of these measurements.

This post contains attachments for the results of each default calibration.

I am a Mac user and having troubles opening these files
post #113 of 141
Thread Starter 
rutabage,

I don't think that HCFR can be installed without a Windows environment. Sorry 'bout that. You may be able to borrow someone elses Windows computer, install HCFR and view the files. Be a kind guest and uninstall HCFR when you are done.
post #114 of 141
Do any of you have the issues with the oversaturated reds? Red fonts and red boxes or sharp edges are fuzzy or blurry. Is there any way to fix that?
post #115 of 141
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Originally Posted by Anode View Post

Hi,
I am considering this TV(TC-L37S1) for purchase. Its on the top of my list, however I am still contending the Samsung LN37B530. The one thing that might help make me a decision is - with which of these two TVs will do better with SD signal input (480i) like DVD or sd cable/sat. Would they be pretty close in this respect ? or does one outperform the other ?
Please advise.
Thanks!

I am exactly in the very same situation like you. Have you finally made up the decision and got the "better" one?
Thanks
post #116 of 141
My in laws have this set and the picture quality is great. The picture is fabulous. I was watching football on it and I didn't notice any motion issues.

The set uses an IPS panel which is known for it's color accuracy. FWIW Apple uses only IPS panels in the current generation imacs.

Is the Samsung as good or better? I doubt it but can't say for sure.

Panasonic hit a grand slam with this set.
post #117 of 141
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Originally Posted by akadoublej View Post

My in laws have this set and the picture quality is great. The picture is fabulous. I was watching football on it and I didn't notice any motion issues.

The set uses an IPS panel which is known for it's color accuracy. FWIW Apple uses only IPS panels in the current generation imacs.

Is the Samsung as good or better? I doubt it but can't say for sure.

Panasonic hit a grand slam with this set.

yep i'm planning on buying one of these mainly for PC use as a monitor because they have great pictures and almost no input lag

what sony and samsung have over it however is
better blacks
better motion enhancement (on 120hz etc models)

the panasonic has
better left to right viewing angles than sony and samsungs
equal quality picture for the most part
much better input lag making the panny the gamers choice of TV IMO
post #118 of 141
Just wanted to chime in with positive reviews for this model. I've had it about a week and watched the weekend's NFL playoff games. I noticed no blur although I was looking carefully. I tried motion focus turned off and on and noticed little difference. Watching the Aussie Open, I did notice a little blur (motion focus turned off). It didn't bother me at all. I'll try motion focus again when baseball season starts. Basketball on a wood court shows some pixelation, but I have noticed this on many other hdtv's and it isn't bothersome. I do watch other programs than sports I don't have a blu-ray player (yet) but SD DVDs look very good. It works great as a monitor too. I wish it could handle 1280x800 (my laptop resolution) over the VGA connection, but I think this isn't the TV's fault, right? (I don't have HDMI out on the laptop.) Overall, the picture is outstanding, the screen is a perfect size for my apartment, it was affordable and I am very happy. This is my first hdtv btw...never thought I needed one but now don't know why I waited so long.

PS, thanks also to LeRoyK for the tip about the remote. If only it could control the receiver
post #119 of 141
Does anyone have the factory settings written down from the service menu? Someone thought the piece of paper I had written it down on was trash
post #120 of 141
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Odysseus18 View Post

Does anyone have the factory settings written down from the service menu? Someone thought the piece of paper I had written it down on was trash

I wrote those down on the first page of this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post16731245
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