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post #571 of 737
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Originally Posted by sdavis81 View Post

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I like the remote but it is not perfect at transmitting the signals. My wife figured out that if you hold the remote up in the air it seems to work much better. I know this should not matter with an RF remote. Using the macros for Activities, which have 6-8 signals, frequently one is missed messing it up, and I have to do it over. This can take up to a minute with the delays. Same thing with Favorite channels which will miss a key and go to wrong channel about half the time.

It seems to be with all the devices so I don't think it is the position of the stickies over the IR recievers. I have investigated them all using manuals and the flashlight trick and can't see how to improve them.

I like having the stuff under the cabinet, and maybe this is how these things work (my first RF remote). Wondering if others have this, or if there is something else I can check.

Thanks!

-Timing (delays) are critical, so you may have to increase the delay times, but that's fine if your using RF mode.
-The little Nevo Extender also flashes IR from its front window along with sending non-addressable IR via the emitters...those front window flashes may bounce off other surfaces causing mayhem. Best to cover that window with a piece of black electrical tape.
-RF has problems going through heavy metal objects such as refrigerators and heavy dense furniture...hence, as your wife suggests, hold the remote up higher.
-There can be all sorts of other RF interference issues..YMMV.
post #572 of 737
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Originally Posted by hammerdwn View Post

I've had the same problem since the first day I set mine up. I am gonna try running the antenna to a "better" location but I'm having problems finding the right size connector. It's not standard coax F connector/cable (it's half the size).

I don't remember if it's on this thread, but I recall seeing a remote antenna made for your very issue. I believe it comes with the small connector. Sorry I don't have a link...but it's out there.

Edit:this may help

http://www.mynevo.com/images/uploade...0Note%2022.pdf

or, this has a link to buy a 433 antenna:

http://www.mynevo.com/kbase/question...questionid=107
post #573 of 737
^ Thank you very much!
post #574 of 737
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Originally Posted by petrovy View Post

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-The little Nevo Extender also flashes IR from its front window along with sending non-addressable IR via the emitters...those front window flashes may bounce off other surfaces causing mayhem. Best to cover that window with a piece of black electrical tape.

Aha, now that you mentioned it, I remember I had problems with my Set Top Box when I had kept the RF base along with the Humax STB. These were kept together in a wooden shelf which is open both sides. When I started having problems, I re-learned the keys on Xsight and also changed the position of the RF base. It started working as desired then. So problem might have been bounced signals.

I was also wondering if I can control the Denon AVR I have with a 3.5mm Male Jack m-to-3.5mm male Jack cable running from Nevo Base to the 'Remote In' port on the Denon, rather using the standard emitter supplied with Nevo. Is this possible? Is this the purpose of the Denon 'Remote In' port? If it works, that would be more elegant and foolproof.
post #575 of 737
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Originally Posted by steve.black View Post

Actually I am beginning to doubt if the Xsight 'forgets' its learning. I had to re-learn many of my Humax buttons despite them working first but they later ceased to work completely in IR and RF modes. It is not a problem with my Dune media player or Panasonic TV and the learns have stayed true. I am investigating it now. .

Regarding learned keys not working, the Nevo Top 10 FAQ has this to say.

Why don't my learned commands work, even though the success screen was displayed on the remote?

To ensure the best quality learned IR data wait about 2 seconds between pressing the key on a Nevo Cusotm Series remote you are going to learn (i.e. Volume Up) and pressing and holding the same key on the source remote.If the remote prompts you to learn again, re-learn the command with a slightly longer delay before you press the function on the source remote.

http://www.mynevo.com/kbase/questions.php?questionid=83
post #576 of 737
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Originally Posted by steve.black View Post

I was also wondering if I can control the Denon AVR I have with a 3.5mm Male Jack m-to-3.5mm male Jack cable running from Nevo Base to the 'Remote In' port on the Denon, rather using the standard emitter supplied with Nevo. Is this possible? Is this the purpose of the Denon 'Remote In' port? If it works, that would be more elegant and foolproof.

Just checked and It works great!

Connected a 3.5mm (1/8") male-male stereo jack from Nevo RF base to Denon "Remote Control Room to Room' 'In' port. Response is smooth and instantaneous using the Xsight 18. So that's one device less to worry about.
post #577 of 737
Hi,

For UK members I have just received my Xsight Touch (badged One for All in the UK) from WAE+ for £53.90, which seems a very cheap price having done a search. 8% cashback through Quidco too!

All arrived ok but delivery is woefully sloooooow!

Excellent thread by the way!
Andy
post #578 of 737
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Originally Posted by steve.black View Post

Just checked and It works great!

Connected a 3.5mm (1/8") male-male stereo jack from Nevo RF base to Denon "Remote Control Room to Room' 'In' port. Response is smooth and instantaneous using the Xsight 18. So that's one device less to worry about.

Hmm.. I just discovered something quirky.

When the 3.5mm cable is plugged into the Denon, the Denon OEM remote works erratically or do not work at all. Once the cable is pulled off from the Denon or the Nevo RF base, the remote works as usual. Do not know if this is the problem with the cable (stereo cable as against mono) or Denon or something else.. I guess I have to use the emitters only as the family sometimes use the OEM remote.
post #579 of 737
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Originally Posted by rinkydinkydoo View Post

Hi,

For UK members I have just received my Xsight Touch (badged One for All in the UK) from WAE+ for £53.90, which seems a very cheap price having done a search. 8% cashback through Quidco too!

All arrived ok but delivery is woefully sloooooow!

Excellent thread by the way!
Andy

Enjoy the remote and I would recommend the RF base as well.

I wonder when will the equation One US$ = 1 Euro = 1 GBP will change with the electronics industry
post #580 of 737
I just hooked up this RF Antenna:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...qTbK6T3MxlO/Av

BIG improvement. With the original antenna I was getting missed commands at least every 10-15 presses of the remote button. Now I'm getting zero missed commands.
post #581 of 737
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Originally Posted by hammerdwn View Post

I just hooked up this RF Antenna:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...qTbK6T3MxlO/Av

BIG improvement. With the original antenna I was getting missed commands at least every 10-15 presses of the remote button. Now I'm getting zero missed commands.

What did you connect this antenna to?
post #582 of 737
It connects directly to the oem AR RF extender "base station". Simply unscrew the original stubby antenna and screw the new cable in. Position the antenna up to 15ft away.

I no longer have to wave my remote remote around in the air pushing the buttons repeatedly trying to find the exact anlge where it will pick up the signal. Even on my upstairs remote! It's like a completely different remote now.
post #583 of 737
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Originally Posted by madmalkav View Post

OFA has a bluetooth adapter for ps3

I found a euro site that has the URC7965 (URC7960 with PS3, guess I can't post url yet): www dot comeuro.net/webshop/product.php?productid=169820. I'm thinking about ordering, but I'm assuming I'll have to find a US AC power adapter for both the adapter and remote charger?
post #584 of 737
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Originally Posted by deerewright View Post

I found a euro site that has the URC7965 (URC7960 with PS3, guess I can't post url yet): www dot comeuro.net/webshop/product.php?productid=169820. I'm thinking about ordering, but I'm assuming I'll have to find a US AC power adapter for both the adapter and remote charger?

Nevermind, looks like its powered by AA and AAA's.
post #585 of 737
Anyone have any experience with above site? And, would there be any issues with using this remote stateside?
post #586 of 737
Sorry for double posting, as this is the offical thread on AVS, i would like to post here.

I am looking for the Xsight IR remote extender. Ran out of the RF blasters that came along with it. Need more as the gadgets keep increasing in my rack.
The prices are incredibly superficial to pay 50 dollars for these.
Do other extenders work for these?
Logitech is offering their extenders for 25 dollars? will they work with ARRX18G remote? If not, what other options do i have?
post #587 of 737
You do realize every device doesn't need a blaster, right? Just relocate one so it's line-of-sight with several devices. The base is also a blaster, so aim it accordingly.

Can you post a link to that logitech extender? I'm not sure what you're talking about since harmony RF bases run about $100 and their IR repeaters run aroud $50. BTW, a harmony RF base only works with a few harmony remotes. Harmony IR repeaters (or any IR repeater for that matter) will work with any remote. Also, what do you mean by "superficial"? That doesn't make any sense.
post #588 of 737
Just got a Xsight Touch. Is there a part in this thread that goes into how to program my Directv in the RF mode? I tried to speak to the help desk and the guy was not very helpful.
post #589 of 737
I have more questions but just need to get more time on the remote to figure things out.
post #590 of 737
RF is set up on the remote itself. Enable it in settings and enter the ID from your DTV box. If you go through the RF setup on your DTV box it should display the ID that it tells you to enter into a remote.
post #591 of 737
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

RF is set up on the remote itself. Enable it in settings and enter the ID from your DTV box. If you go through the RF setup on your DTV box it should display the ID that it tells you to enter into a remote.

Thanks, I got it pretty well set up now.
I had to delete the activities and redo them but the bacics are working good now. I just have not played with the favorites yet. I set this remote up for the bedroom with 4 devices
Panasonic 50 inch plasma
Yamaha AV Reciever
Directv
Panasonic Blue Ray

The only problem is the TV does not have one button command to change inputs. It has a TV/video button that you have to keep pressing till you scroll threw all the inputs which are only 2 right now but on the screen there are about 7 or 8.
post #592 of 737
There should be discrete commands for each individual input selection on the Xsight so you don't have to scroll. It doesn't matter how you did it on your original remote, you can use discrete commands now that you have a universal remote. So find them in the extended commands and use those in your macros. The names may not exactly match the actual inputs, so test each of them to make sure you're using the right ones. You'll also want to use discrete Power On commands in your activities and discrete Power Off in your goodnight activity.
post #593 of 737
I've just become aware of this remote and I have a few questions about it. I currently use a Harmony 890 and was debating getting another Harmony for use in a different room. I've just installed an LG LED TV, JBL soundbar, and an HTPC running XBMC that will be controlled via an MCE receiver. I'll need to set up a sequence to wake the PC from sleep mode, turn on the soundbar and then wait a few seconds to turn on the TV. If I'm reading this all right the Arrx12g should be more than sufficient for this task. My concern is that it's so damn cheap on Amazon compared to any Harmony that's worthwhile to use (ok, maybe there isn't a good harmony anymore, but I'm sure y'all get my point) that I want to know if this remote will do what I want.

From the looks of it even the Arrx12g is overkill for my setup, but it's cheap enough and can allow me to have some custom buttons on the LCD for special XBMC functions, so it seems like it'd be a great fit in my system. Any thoughts from anyone on this?
post #594 of 737
I wouldn't recommend the 12g in your case, rather the 18g. The 12 only has 3 functions per page on the LCD and they take multiple button press to use. On the 18, you get direct access to 6 functions per page. Both have excellent macro capabilities.
post #595 of 737
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I wouldn't recommend the 12g in your case, rather the 18g. The 12 only has 3 functions per page on the LCD and they take multiple button press to use. On the 18, you get direct access to 6 functions per page. Both have excellent macro capabilities.

Well it's nearly triple in price, and the 12g has the color buttons, so it might do. I'll look into it further. I'm also considering going with iRule. However it's going to be a long while before I have that all up and running like I want and I need something sooner than later.
post #596 of 737
I have both the 12 and 18 and have had many harmonys in the past. 18's can sometimes be found for less than $50. At the moment, the best and most economical solution IMO would be to use MobileMouse on your iOS device for HTPC control and a 12g for everything else. I still think HTPC control would be tedious on a universal remote, especially the 12. To use a given function on the 12's LCD, you have to arrow down to it, then press select, so executing the 10th function for example would take 10 button presses. The same on an 18 would take 2 button presses. The benefits of mobile mouse includes touchpad, air mouse, full keyboard, context sensitive transport controls and browser controls, task switching, same speed an accuracy as a real keyboard/mouse, unlimited hot keys and macros. It's vastly better than any universal remote solution.
post #597 of 737
XBMC actually works real well with a remote. And the configuration for remotes is also quite powerful so you can customize it as you like. I use a harmony with XBMC in my theater, and I'm quite pleased with it. I only use a few of the virtual buttons to navigate directly to TV Shows, Movies and the like, and those map to Red, Yellow, Green, etc.

I use the XBMC Android app on my phone, and while that allows direct access to TV shows and movies, it's not integrated with live TV yet so there it functions strictly like a regular remote. A mouse app sounds painful frankly. Trying to navigate my movies by maneuvering a mouse cursor on the screen with my phone rather than using page up and page down doesn't sound fun at all. Not to mention I can navigate the harmony without looking at it.

mdavej, I noticed at the beginning of this thread you seemed to give up on the xsight, back in Sept. '09. What brought you back to it? I'm thinking if I like this remote downstairs, and I find it powerful enough, I might just replace my 890 with an 18g. I'm on my second 890, the first stopped taking updates. And when that happened I had to buy a used 890 because none of the other Harmony's satisfied me due to the changes they have gone through, not to mention how much it costs to get RF now. That second one lasted a year before the screen died so I swapped screens with the old one. Good thing I didn't throw that out. I know the screens are available online, but I'm still concerned about the future of this remote. They just aren't that reliable, and Logitech seems dedicated to making Harmony worse, not better.
post #598 of 737
I used my remote to control my PC for a long time and it worked ok. But the mouse app with all its other features was like having chains removed. If you don't care for the mouse, arrows/pg buttons work fine as well. If you're content, no reason to change. Main point is 12g can be awkward when lots of extra functions are used regularly.

I was an early adopter of Xsight, having gotten European version before they were sold on the US. At first it truly stunk. Tried to like it but gave up. Tried it a few more times in the past few years. Much improved software and lower prices brought me back for good. I too am concerned about long term but will cross that bridge when it comes. Greater popularity of Xsight line in Europe makes me think we still have years of web support, but that's only speculation on my part. In the mean time harmony is no longer an option for me due to ever shrinking feature set.

FWIW I got my last few 12's for $10 each used, and my 18's for under $50. I probably have about 30 universal remotes of all types and am very pleased with the price/performance of Xsight at the moment. I'm still hoping we can hack the Xsight and use JP1 s/w with it. But progress on that front has stalled for now. I get remotes to hack and play with, and put my favs into regular service. Xsight has been my overall fav for about a year now mostly due to price and good macro support. Reliability is a genuine concern. The 12 will probably turn out to be more reliable due to the type of buttons, but only time will tell.
post #599 of 737
XBMC is actually made around the 10-foot UI as some refer to it. A mouse is mostly superfluous in that app.

One big advantage of the XSight that I'm seeing is the price is such that it doesn't hurt to experiment with them. I see some cheaper 18g's on ebay, so I'll definitely keep that in mind for the future.

In the past I've had a Marantz RC-2000, Yamaha's Pronto based remote, and then the Harmony. Each generation has gotten better, but Logitech no longer seems to care about moving forward. I really hope that someone someday will provide a remote with lots of physical buttons that can be tied to some other device that can be used to pass on TCP commands. Logitech is so damn close, what with the Revue and the Link and the RF capabilities. If they'd tie that stuff together and sell a remote system for under $500 with the ease of use of Harmony and the power of TCP/IP commands, that would be awesome.

Thanks for your input mdavej. One thing about these product threads here on AVS is that if you start at the beginning it can give you a very different view of a product like this one that is evolving. It's interesting and insightful to see your opinion change over time. Had it not been for the price of this remote I might have skipped over it entirely after skimming over the first 40 or 50 posts in this thread. Glad I looked a little further.
post #600 of 737
My XSight ARRX18G remote is not working with the dish receiver.
It used to work earlier, but recently the 722k receiver and their remotes were swapped out to some technical issue.
Anyways, since then, i am not able to control dish receiver through the ARRX18G remote.

If i remember long back, dish technical dept helped me with swapping some remote settings in the dish system info. But now no one knows how to make this work at dish support. Any idea. Or is there an easier way out.
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