*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 2310CI / 890 Owner's Thread - Page 62

Ok then, so what receivers are the same as the 2310ci that can go with my 3600. Just trying this thread first since this is my first choice.
Thanks alot for help, input, and advice

not the "same" in terms of video processing, but quite close in other respects is the onkyo 707... give it a look... i've been debating the two for a few weeks now...

Hey guys, I've been asking this question about other receivers in other threads but wanted to ask about this one as well since this one is on my list of potential buys.

Does this receiver allow any type of video calibration via the hdmi inputs such as brightness/contrast, etc.? In essence letting you calibrate each input seperately.

I was looking at the Sony ES models, and while they have nice styling, I'm starting to think they really aren't the best. Looking at the 2400ES - 5400ES models as well as the Onkyo TXNR807 and 1007.

Feel like my head is going to explode from researching all this. I keep going back and forth on what is a good purchase.

Thanks for any insights you have. 54 pgs is a lot to go through, I only made it through about 8.

not fair? balderdash, i say. i made no specific reference to a product category nor specific reference to denon. hooey on all of them that forget that good design is consistent with a good user experience.

a consumer product designer keeps in mind their user profile, assumes that all consumers are idiots, and designs to accommodate those with the money. and their reward shall be riches.

[and the same hooey goes to those who play pass-the-buck with hdmi compatabilty issues.]

Yes, you can adjust video settings (brightness, contrast, etc.) via HDMI/GUI. I've had this receiver about a month which replaced a Yamaha RX-V765 and am very pleased with the 2310.

DOH! indeed. well now it does sound like we are talking about the same thing, so i'll just repeat what i said right back at you
""Originally Posted by TVbc
jd.... i know it's really not your point, but i would say that if the manufacturer's design is such that turning on the unit is so non-intuitive as to need special instruction, that is a 'failure' of the product, not the consumer.""

we shouldn't be required to troubleshoot a brand new product, and certainly not how to turn the blankity-blank thing on. so we will just have to agree to disagree on that.

jd... did he saywhat "...resolving video display at some resolutions..." means?

thanks

Just to get myself up to speed. I bought the LG BD390 player when I bought the 2310. I am positioning myself to retire in March. At that time I plan to purchase a new TV, and am thinking of the Sammy 8500. Should I replace the 390 now, with all of the audio issues? Or wait and see if the 8500 will be able to play nice with the 390?
Thanks:

Lyle

Sorry, but no additional details, rather just that it existed. I've got an email in to Denon Canada as well, although no response yet.


You haven't mentioned whether you are having the same issues bitstreaming the HD codecs with the LGBD390 as a few others are having? If you are as well, then whether it played well with your new Sammy wouldn't really matter as my understanding is that it's an audio issue not a video issue with the LG players. As you can still let the LG decode to PCM, you might want to wait just to see if Denon issues some kind of update. Or if not seeing the "blue" light is not a big deal to you, then no need to replace it regardless.

You never mentioned if you tried the LITTLE power button? What about jiggling the cord into the back of the Denon as sometimes that has been know to be loose as well?

plugged in my ps3 yesterday via hdmi and got a picture but no sound. i switched back to my cable and got sound there. i then checked my denon ipod dock that was working yesterday and it didn't have sound at first. my buddy then came over and all of a sudden there was sound available for the ipod and cable but not the ps3. any ideas of what might be happening here? fyi, i plugged some things in after i set audyssey. thanks

Are you within your return window on the Samsung? If so, that's another avenue you can explore, replace the Samsung and get the 2310; at its price point I think the 2310/890 is definitely the unit to beat; Denon really hit the mark witht his unit.

Are you positive in the PS3 Sound Settings you have your sound setup to pass through the HDMI. Because if its set to optical or something else you are not going to get sound out of your HDMI receiver.

the sound passed thru to my tv perfectly before i bot the 2310... haven't set anything differently. do i need to designate speakers for certain devices? as i said, i also had problems with the denon dock for a bit before it "all of a sudden" started working. seems weird. i turned off and on the receiver as to try and have it identify the new hdmi cable again. thanks

you can always try resetting the receiver if you haven't done that yet, then start the setup again with everything connected. For whatever reason these units seem to benefit from a reset.

thanks. that was going to be my next move

Hello to all. I am new to the forum and I am hoping someone can help me solve my problem. I have the AVR-890 and have a Wii hooked up to Comp-1.It is hooked up with an aftermarket Composite cable rbg and the audio cables are plugged into the red and white RCA inputs for DVD on the bottom. I have video. so no problem there, but, for some reason I can not get any audio. I have chosen the HDP input on the input setup list as where the signal should appear. If I try and choose the input audio source it is stuck on ext.in. It will not let me choose HDMI, Auto or Analog only EXT.IN. I have gone through all 61 or 62 pages of the forum looking for a solution, I have Googled,I have read Batpigs Guide all with no solution found. So any help or suggestions or magic tricks that work would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Wayne

Heh, fair enough. Somehow my subconcious projected the "never" implication in there, and it definitely doesn't read that way for real.

An update, I'm 80% of the way through reconnecting everything, and so far everything's quite spiffy. I'm not even having any of the weird SPDIF stutter that I thought might have been my HTPC's fault.

I have an old SciAtl 8300HD; on the returned unit, I ran into the typical HDCP "Talk to the hand" problem, so I didn't even bother hooking up it's HDMI this time, and went straight component + optical. So far, so good, though I did play with resolution switching between 1080/720/480 channels, and got it to glitch to a blank screen (w/ audio) twice... but couldn't reproduce it either time. It was pretty easy to correct, and I probably wouldn't be jumping around like that anyhow. The delay for switching is a tad on the long side, and there's a brief 1/2-screen burst of HDMI static, but otherwise nothing out of the ordinary.

One problem I had with the returned unit was, when running component+EXT.In analog from my DVD3910, the lip sync was horrible. And being all-analog, there was no HDMI setting to fix that. I will be testing for that again tonight. It's not a dealbreaker, though, as the 3910 will be primarily audio-only; maybe the ocassional Region 2 disc that my new Oppo won't play. Though I *did* want to do a shootout comparing the upconverted 480i from the 3910 vs the Oppo's upconvert... just for giggles.

Anyway, I can't wait for a weekend of calibrating and tweaking! Oh, and listening... can't forget the listening.

Thank you for the reply, I may have worded it wrong I should have said component -1 the DVD input on the back with the red blue and green video input,I understood this input was assignable and I thought the audio inputs would go along with it. If I understand what you are saying I have to choose an input like VCR or something to be able to make it work or should I use the DVR input instead.
Thanks
Wayne

Alright I gotcha, thanks very much for the help.

Wayne

Hi

I bought new 2310 and hooked it up to my dvd via HDMI - AUDIO NO issues, works great. (I let DVD player do the upscaling and not 2310)

Other input is via S video from my Dish box/dvr (Non HD). AMP picks up and upscales to 720. but the image quality is poor.I tried various settings 1080i, 1080p and 1080/24 but still image quality is not even close to what I get on cable HD channels. In fact if I just hook up the dish directly to my tv the image still looks better than the one that comes via HDMI from AMP.

What are the tweaking that I should consider to get decent 720p image (I have Sony Bravia 1080p TV but I will be )? the one that I could compare to Cable or should I assume these upscaling devices are not good enough to get you the same quality as you get from Cable?

any help!!

Can you just pass it through the receiver untouched, so that the TV will handle the upscaling? In other words, when you hit "input" on the tv, it should report it's getting a 720p signal and not an upscaled signal(most sony tvs give you this feeback, I know mine does). Other option is to go directly into the tv, but that sort of defeats the purpose of using the receiver. Kind of takes the V out of AVR.

I am curious, because I am leaning towards getting this model now and this feature is something I would want.

TV does Show what it is getting.

When I hook up the dish box directly to tv it shows 480i and when I run it through the AVR and configure it to any HD output including 720 or 1080i, 1080p & 1080/24..... tv shows that it is getting 720p etc.

But the quality of 720p from AVR is very poor (Honestly i would prefer watching it without up converting) vs. the 720p from over the air broadcast. I thought I must be doing something wrong to get that or may be expectations were very high.


Need some help from experts here before I make decision to return it...

No, I cannot return my 3600 anymore as I had it for 3 months.

hmm that might be the case, I will keep it analog then unless i get a new HD box from dish that has at least component connections.

does this AVR do any video process when source is connected via HDMI, my dvd player (that upscales SD dvd to 1080p pretty nice)? when connected directly to tv vs when connected via AVR show some loss of black level.

Another thought! if i not going to use it for upscaling should I even be bothered to keep the same mode, why I should not move to Onkyo 707 (almost same price) or even downgrade to 1910 model and save money and user ut for univeral remote! What say?

As a general note, for folks thinking that buying an AVR that upgrades to 1080p will save them from paying for HD cable/satellite channels, you will be very disappointed. If an SD channel PQ is a 1 and an HD channel is a 10, then an upscaled SD channel might get you a 5 at best, most certainly nothing close to the real thing.


Good reasoning ... if you don't need the features, then move down a model.