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post #3121 of 7011
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Originally Posted by Mikeaf97 View Post

Second I dont think you can run them with a Denon 2310ci. I listened to some this last week and loved them but they are 4 ohms speakers and the 2310 is rated only to 6 ohms. I'm not smart on this issue by any means as you can tell from earlier posts but it appears you can't fully drive those speakers.

The key words of course being "fully drive". Other posters have used 4 ohm speakers with these Denon AVRs with no issue at all when running at average volume levels. The key is to not push them too their limits, although the Denon will shut down in Protection Mode if that should happen so you're safe from harming the AVR.
post #3122 of 7011
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Originally Posted by fguder View Post

Thanks. If I run HDMI direct to TV with Optical to AVR, will there be a delay between the audio and the video (syncronization problem)? In addition, the audio will now be coming both from TV and the speakers connected to AVR. I guess the solution would be to reduce the audio volume from TV. Is that right?

In addition to what JChin suggested, you should also try each of the other HDMI jacks to see if you have the same issue. If another one solves the problem, then just swap out the component that was plugged in to that jack to another jack as well.

There should be no sync problem using HDMI and optical. And yes, when you want to use the surround speakers instead of the TV speakers, simply mute the TV speakers.
post #3123 of 7011
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Originally Posted by trolly View Post

I got a really good deal on a new 1910 (368.00) and while in my local Magnolia tonight I see they have an open-box 2310 for $649.00. Receiver is being used in a 2.1 setup in our exercise room. Speakers are Mirage OS3-SATs with a Martin Logan 10" Dynamo. Basically music only system. I cant decide if I should move up to the 2310...or would I gain nothing with the speakers I'm using.

If I were you I would downgrade to a 1610. It has the same basic components as the 1910 and since the system is music only and 2.1 I don't think you would need any of the features the 2310 or the 1910 has over the 1610.
post #3124 of 7011
Hi jdsmoothie,

I stilll have the same HDMI issue even after performing your recommended steps.

When I switch to my second cable box, I get picture, but not sound. I have to change sound modes to get sound. for example from 5ch Stereo to pro logic 2.

Everything else works though, so it just seems to be that one set top box.

So do I keep the amp knowing it has a problem, but for which there is a work around or do I exchange yet again? The dealer has already said I can do so.

If I keep it, I might have future problems with other HDMI devices. But what if the next unit has even worse issues?

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
post #3125 of 7011
Activebass -
Only you can decide if you can live with the work arounds (you shouldn't have to "coax" the sound btw), otherwise it's back to the vendor. It may very well be an issue with your particular components, which would require another mfr AVR.
post #3126 of 7011
no dude...

I just spent Sunday auditioning AVR with my colleague.
We tested several Yamahas, a Marantz, Onkyos and the Denon.

The Denon beat them all. spec-wise, music-wise and movie-wise.
Upscaling, Anchor Bay, 5 HDMI inputs, etc etc.....

I'm going to keep exchanging the Denon till I get a niggle-free set!
post #3127 of 7011
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Originally Posted by plata90 View Post

Hi i know marantz and harman kardon are the warmest and have trebles soft and sweet: witch are softly in trebles between denon 2310 - 2809 and onkyo 707 ?

i heard 2310 is a bit hard on mid-trebles expecially activing audyssey dyn eq. Is right?

up....
post #3128 of 7011
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Originally Posted by chasmcg View Post


At any rate, the HDMI standby pass-through for both video and audio now works as it should.

Guys,

I just purchased a 2310 for my also new Sammy LED TV, my first AVR purchase in 15 years, and want to confirm I correctly understand this quote. I'm currently planning my in-wall cables needed between the 2310 and TV.

If I have cable_box/source <--> 2310 <--> TV all over HDMI, if the 2310 is off/standby, will the TV still get a video & audio signal... and play over the TV's speakers? I think the answer is yes based on above, but want to confirm I'm understanding this correctly. (or do I need to run a second feed to the TV bypassing the 2310?)

Also, do you guys normally run a digital audio out cable to the 2310 JIC you need to plug in a camcorder direct to TV (front panel) to get audio over the HT speakers?
post #3129 of 7011
Your understanding of HDMI pass through is correct. The Denon uses about 30W to remain in HDMI Standby mode and will allow HDMI audio/video for any HDMI input to pass through. It works well providing none of your components (most often the cable box) have HDMI handshake issues with the AVR.
post #3130 of 7011
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Your understanding of HDMI pass through is correct. The Denon uses about 30W to remain in HDMI Standby mode and will allow HDMI audio/video for any HDMI input to pass through. It works well providing none of your components (most often the cable box) have HDMI handshake issues with the AVR.

Thanks. That's good news. So, if I have to resort to a component connection + digital audio for any source, HDMI pass through is a no-go? It's only for HDMI sources, not analog that's been upconverted and sent over HDMI?
post #3131 of 7011
Correct. Although a work around for the cable box is to just go HDMI straight to the TV with optical/coax to to the 2310. Although just dawned on me .... most HD cable/sat boxes will be firmware upgradeable to handle a reduced version of 3D video, however, it will most likely not be able to pass through the AVR, rather it must go straight to the TV with optical to the AVR. So as you are in the process of running cable, that's something you might want to consider now if you plan on watching 3D broadcasts.
post #3132 of 7011
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Correct. Although a work around for the cable box is to just go HDMI straight to the TV with optical/coax to to the 2310. Although just dawned on me .... most HD cable/sat boxes will be firmware upgradeable to handle a reduced version of 3D video, however, it will most likely not be able to pass through the AVR, rather it must go straight to the TV with optical to the AVR. So as you are in the process of running cable, that's something you might want to consider now if you plan on watching 3D broadcasts.

Thanks. Sounds like I'm going to pull 2 HDMI cables + DA optical out JIC then.
post #3133 of 7011
Depending on how long you expect to be in the house and how tough it is to pull new cable, you might just want to use HDMI 1.4 cables instead.
post #3134 of 7011
Batpig or anyone else,

I recently purchased the 2310ci and when I was testing some of the inputs on the back I noticed that when I had the monitor out hooked up via the video out (single yellow wire) to my samsung lcd, I noticed that the color icons in the GUI and some text would get a little jumpy when I was making selections via the remote control.

I then connected the monitor out via HDMI and then via component and did not experience this problem at all from either source.

Do you think there is something wrong with my video out, or is that just standard noise for such a low grade connection?

If anyone could try to or anyone who has duplicated my results, I would really appreciate your input as my home theatre guy is delievering a speaker this saturday and i am going to tell him to bring a new 2310ci if this is truely a defective avr.

Thanks all.

--C
post #3135 of 7011
Thread Starter 
I don't think anything is wrong, that seems normal for a cruddy composite video feed.
post #3136 of 7011
Thanks Batpig, I agree with you.

Just out of curiousity could someone with the 2310ci test this out and see if they get the same result. Thanks!


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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I don't think anything is wrong, that seems normal for a cruddy composite video feed.
post #3137 of 7011
Anyone else have a problem with the 2310 and PS3 sound?

Every now and then when I turn on the PS3 there is no sound. The Denon is on the right source but if I reselect the source the sound kicks in. This is not just for DVD/Blu-Ray playback but for all sound.

Once the sound kicks in everything is usually fine till I try to view special features on movies. The sound will cut out until I reselect the source again. After that, I usually never have another problem with sound. I can go back and forth between multiple movies and their special feature selections.
post #3138 of 7011
How do you have your sound hooked up? HDMI or digital out?

My PS3 is hooked up digital out to the denon and I have never had an issue. I know that I just got my denon but I have probably logged 10-12 hours of call of duty and uncharted with no sound issues.

I could hook it up via hdmi and let you know the results of my test if you would like.


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Originally Posted by Pyrophoric View Post

Anyone else have a problem with the 2310 and PS3 sound?

Every now and then when I turn on the PS3 there is no sound. The Denon is on the right source but if I reselect the source the sound kicks in. This is not just for DVD/Blu-Ray playback but for all sound.

Once the sound kicks in everything is usually fine till I try to view special features on movies. The sound will cut out until I reselect the source again. After that, I usually never have another problem with sound. I can go back and forth between multiple movies and their special feature selections.
post #3139 of 7011
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Originally Posted by milzi007 View Post

How do you have your sound hooked up? HDMI or digital out?

My PS3 is hooked up digital out to the denon and I have never had an issue. I know that I just got my denon but I have probably logged 10-12 hours of call of duty and uncharted with no sound issues.

I could hook it up via hdmi and let you know the results of my test if you would like.

Previously, I had it connected through an optical cable to my old receiver and never had any problems. Now I have it connected through HDMI to my new 2310. The PS3 has always been set to LPCM.

Once I get the sound working on the system, it's fine from there on accept when trying to view special features on movies. It's like the receiver doesn't recognize that there is sound being output till I refresh the source.
post #3140 of 7011
I will hook mine up via HDMI and let you know.

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Originally Posted by Pyrophoric View Post

Previously, I had it connected through an optical cable to my old receiver and never had any problems. Now I have it connected through HDMI to my new 2310. The PS3 has always been set to LPCM.

Once I get the sound working on the system, it's fine from there on accept when trying to view special features on movies. It's like the receiver doesn't recognize that there is sound being output till I refresh the source.
post #3141 of 7011
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Originally Posted by milzi007 View Post

I will hook mine up via HDMI and let you know.

Thanks
post #3142 of 7011
Thread Starter 
what you are describing is not normal, and almost certainly not a settings issue. It looks like some HDMI handshake weirdness affecting your components. You might want to try, as a test, swapping the PS3 to a different HDMI input on the Denon and then (after reassigning the input) reboot all the devices.
post #3143 of 7011
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

what you are describing is not normal, and almost certainly not a settings issue. It looks like some HDMI handshake weirdness affecting your components. You might want to try, as a test, swapping the PS3 to a different HDMI input on the Denon and then (after reassigning the input) reboot all the devices.

Gotcha, I will try that. I can also try a different HDMI cable if that doesnt work.
post #3144 of 7011
Is there any solution or input from Denon regarding the issues losing upscaling and the GUI when changing source resolutions (such as 1080i to 480i on a cable box)?? This is very annoying to deal with and it seems like an issue with the AVR.
post #3145 of 7011
What is the process for programming my Pioneer Pro-110fd TV onto the 890 remote?
I'm using the manual's codes : 180 or 184 but with no luck.
post #3146 of 7011
For the past 3 years the codes 124,128, and 142 were used. For some reason this year the codes changed. Give these codes a try and see if one of them works for you. Otherwise, if not, give Pioneer a call and see if you can get the code from them. You also might have better luck using either the cable/sat box remote or a separate universal remote (eg Harmony).
post #3147 of 7011
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

For the past 3 years the codes 124,128, and 142 were used. For some reason this year the codes changed. Give these codes a try and see if one of them works for you. Otherwise, if not, give Pioneer a call and see if you can get the code from them. You also might have better luck using either the cable/sat box remote or a separate universal remote (eg Harmony).



Found my solution -- I had read the manual wrong. Several codes seem to work -- thanks.

Yer right though, universal remotes will do a better job -- but this "spare" will do in a pinch. Too bad there isn't more info on what the actual buttons co-relate to, vis a vis the TV remote.

As for a Harmony. Returned our 'Harmony One' to POS as it was a PITA for the family to remember what button was for what -- $250 being tossed at a wall is pretty expensive ..and being tethered to the computer for software programming is no joy either.
post #3148 of 7011
I just bought a Denon 2310ci and am wiring my basement for surround.

Question:

With this receiver, is there a point to wiring for 9 channel surround? Will I be able to hear out of all 9 channels at once?
post #3149 of 7011
If you're referring to using both the rear surround and Front height at the same time, no as it's only a 7.1 AVR. However, the "B" speaker posts would allow you to have a 2nd set of front mains (eg for stereo music only) in the same room.
post #3150 of 7011
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Originally Posted by SlamKeys View Post

I've been emailing Denon support because I have the speaker popping noise when my 2310 switches to my bluray player HDMI input.

After a few replies they have concluded I need to install the firmware update. Does anyone know whether the new update is supposed to address this problem?

DenonJeff got back with me and indicated that the fix for your particular issue is included in the current Samsung/LG bitstream fix. Click on the last link in my sig on more information about installing the update. Then, once installed, please report back whether the popping noise is resolved. Thanks.
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