*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 2310CI / 890 Owner's Thread - Page 154

Couldn't wait until tomorrow night, so inserted the "bridge" wire and ran Auto Set-up, only 2 locations right now though. Family is sleeping upstairs, but it is nice and quiet. Anyway, fronts now read as "Large" and "Full Band" in crossover field. It's really too late tonight to test out the audio, but I am wondering if I should change these fronts to "Small" tomorrow and let the sub handle the lows? I am thinking I read that along the way in the forum, but I will do some searching. Thanks again.

The 891 will actually use the newer ABT 2015 chip, vice the 2010 chip (the Amazon ad you linked incorrectly identifies the 2010 chip in the heading, but correctly identifies the 2015 chip in the more detailed paragraph) and although not likely to be much different than the 2010, will likely only have the same features implemented as with the 2010 chip. The Picture Adjustment features listed in the 891 Owners manual are exactly the same as in the 890 manual so there's no reason to believe there's anything new enabled.

Yes, setting ALL speakers to SMALL with a minimum of 80hz crossovers (generally higher for smaller bookshelf speakers) will allow the sub to take some of the load off the AVR. Significantly more power is required to produce the lower frequencies which is why you direct them to the "powered" sub with it's own amp. And because subs are generally rated at 150W-1000W+, that's why the sub should not be plugged in to the switched outlet on the back as it is only rated to 120W.

I recently got an AVR-790, but have been having an issue with it and my Tivo HD. I'm now thinking of returning it and getting a closeout AVR2310, if it'll fix my issue.

I have the Tivo HD hooked up via HDMI (I tried optical as well), and it's configured to send Dolby Digital audio, not PCM. The problem manifests on HD channels. The audio from the show will be DD 5.1, then the ads/credits will have just stereo sound. The problem is that when the audio type changes, I lose sound for a few seconds.

I ran a search on this thread and the AVR790 thread. I see a few mentions of the issue in the AVR790 thread, but none here. Can anyone here confirm this isn't an issue with the 2310/890?

The issue didn't exist with my old Onkyo 606. It's something to do with the way the 790 is handling the signal.

As noted in the 790 thread, when dealing with HDMI handshake issues, you have a couple different work arounds: (1) HDMI to the TV w/optical to the AVR or (2) component/optical to the AVR. If you want to upgrade to the 2310, you'll likely experience the same issue, although with the 2310 you can upgrade the firmware yourself (although not likely to resolve this particular issue).

I'm looking at the 2310 to replace 7 year old Rotel separates in ordering to update to newer technology. A new TV with HDMI is a year away. My question is will the OSD menu be available over component?

I've always been a RS meter and test CD guy so I'm interested to see what magic this whole Audyssey stuff works...

Bill

Yes, the GUI/menu is available over component to the TV.

How is this a handshake issue? Once I'm getting audio and video, hasn't the handshake completed? Does it go through the handshake again whenever the audio type changes?

That doesn't fix it.

If connecting an optical cable doesn't solve the problem, then it's likely not an HDMI handshake issue.


I am indeed. Thanks for the correction.

Questions to batpig and jdsmoothie, how do you two know so much about Denon receivers? JD, I'm inferring by some of your previous posts that you actually work for Denon? batpig, I have no clue. However, I wish I was half as knowledgeable as you two and appreciate the help.

Thanks.

Neither of us does actually ... batpig comes with the knowledge of owning, what? maybe 6 different Denon AVRs ... while I come with only one and just try to keep up with the various owners manuals ... sometimes forgetting which goes where as noted above.

I needed a firmware update a couple years ago and DenonJeff was lagging way behind in sending them out so I simply offered to do it for him and in so doing took on firmware updates for the other models as well, including the 2310.

I don't know of any DVD I own that will have audio right after a audio type change like TV shows and ads do. Usually movie trailers will be silent during the green "The following preview has been approved..." screen.

Yeah, I see it switch from Dolby Digital to PLII Cinema.

Anyway, all this is off-topic for this thread. I'm just curious if anyone here has a Tivo HD and can confirm if this issue is present. Otherwise, I'll have to find a nearby store that will let me hook up my Tivo to a display 2310 and test it out.

Oh, yeah that makes sense, I'll give that a try.

I have a 2310 and a Tivo HD. The audio never drops out when it switches from DD to PLII at commercial breaks.

I do get some popping noises from the SR speaker when I start/stop programs, but it's just a minor annoyance.

So the issue you were having as listed below in your original post are gone?




Have you installed the firmware update yet?

Thank you for your post. Is your Tivo HD hooked up via HDMI?

edit: Never mind, I see you mentioned HDMI in your earlier post about your issue.

I am sure this is in this thread somewhere but after several dozen pages I thought I would just ask. I read that the GUI set up menu overlays and I wanted to make sure the volume also overlays over HDMI. Thanks.

yes

The issue where the source dropped out during content streaming? Yes, thanks to your suggestion. I swapped the new HDMI 1.3 cable with an older HDMI cable that was connected to my DVD player. Both the Tivo and DVD player function normally now. I was skeptical that the cable could be the cause of the issue, so I was happily surprised.


I never received it at my work address. The exchange server probably nixed it when it saw an executable in the attachment. I'll wait until the April firmware is available and then we can try again. I may just set up SMTP/IMAP on my personal webserver.

Yes, as long as you keep the upscaler turned on. The only reason you would want to turn it off is if, like me, you have a Nintendo Wii hooked up and want to avoid video lag. The scaler is configurable for each input, so I have a volume overlay on everything but the Wii.

I'll post more this weekend, but I just got a 2310CI and I've turned off the video scaler on the receiver for everything. I have all the inputs (Blu-Ray, DirecTV, HTPC, and Wii) going to the TV (Panny 50" plasma) unscaled by the receiver. Everything I have except the Wii is 1080i/p capable and for the Wii, I tried the TV versus the receiver and to me the TV looked better. Also, the receiver underscanned the image which isn't acceptable for me.

However, I do need to figure out how to turn off the volume overlay because it annoys me a bit. And I can't wait until to resetup Audyssey. I have to wait until the roommates are gone for an hour because they tend to be loud and make a lot of noise when home.

Thanks to Batpig for your website on setting up the Denon. I hooked up my new 2310 last week and my family got to enjoy our first movie this past weekend. I'm running a new slim PS3 thru the Denon to a Panasonic PTAE4000U projector throwing a 100" image. It is pretty awesome. I even "got me some pretty lights: by setting the PS3 to bitstream audio so I can get the pretty blue HD audio light on the Denon.

Two questions though:

1 - Will there be a difference based on what decodes the audio, the PS3 or the Denon? Is there a quality issue in which one does the decoding? Because as I understand it, if I leave the PS3 to linear PCM, then the PS3 decodes the audio and the Denon basically passes it thru to the speakers. Using bitstream, the raw audio goes to the Denon for decoding, then on to the speakers. Will the quality matter?

2 - Denon remotes suck! But is there a dimmer feature on the remote anywhere? Or is the only way to dim the Denon is by using the button on the front pf the unit?

Thanks.

Invest in a Logitech Harmony remote. It'll be one of the best investments that you'll ever make. Also, the Harmonys have a very high WAF (wife acceptance factor).

+1.

Check out amazon -- they have a nice sale + rebate going on right now on Harmony One -- lowest price you'll likely find anywhere.