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post #6991 of 7167
If you also connect a component video cable from the cable box to the AVR, with the audio source selected, set it's "Video Select" setting (p. 36 OM) to the component video source (HDMI source will not work). Other option is to connect cable box HDMI directly to the TV with optical from the box to the AVR.
post #6992 of 7167
Nope...I don't believe it will show video while playing analog. But I've been wrong before. wink.gif
post #6993 of 7167
So assuming I ditch the HDMI in favor of component, I can set a source for cable video AND audio (regular tv watching) and another for cable video and Phono audio (sports+music)? Part of the appeal of the upgrade was only having a single cable (HDMI) from my receiver to my tv, as opposed to the fistful I'll need to run signal another way. Bummer, but totally worth it. Thanks fellas.
post #6994 of 7167
You don't have to ditch the HDMI, rather simply just add the component video cable as most DVRs will output over both the HDMI and component video outputs simultaneously.
post #6995 of 7167
Hi, hdmi-cec between my samsung tv and avr2310 doesn't work anymore,
only thing i have done is to connect a hdmi-mini display port cable to avr,
now serching for hdmi-cec device in my tv doesn't give any result
I've tried to disable and eanble avr hdmi control without effect
what can I try to do?
post #6996 of 7167
What is it you want the HDMI-CEC to do?
post #6997 of 7167
volume control, and power off each other
post #6998 of 7167
Try resetting the microprocessor on the AVR otherwise it would likely be much simpler to consider using a Harmony remote instead.
post #6999 of 7167
I use a harmony remote, but want to use ipad too as before, and without CEC I cant
will try to reset, thank you
post #7000 of 7167
I may be getting a new tv stand and the clearance above my 2310 would only be around 1 .5 inches to the glass shelf. I'm guessing it would be fine since it's an open, 3-shelf stand with no front or back.
post #7001 of 7167
As 3-4" is the suggested minimum (Denon suggests 12"), you would be better served using another shelf or at the very least adding a PC fan or two to exhaust the heat from the top of the AVR.
post #7002 of 7167
Help,
Everything works fine....Except when watching Netflix. I choose a movie the input indicates that it is 5.1. However, I only hear all the sound in stereo mode. If I select another mode all the voice sound goes away. I can still hear the background sounds. I think it has something to do with the "auto surround mode". I don't know how to change this, if that's the problem

Thanks bill
post #7003 of 7167
Thread Starter 
What are you using to stream Netflix? The problem is likely the source itself. Most Netflix streams are actually 2ch, but some sources (like the PS3) will output the 2ch audio as a 5.1 signal, with the other channels "blank". So the receiver thinks it is getting 5.1 but it is only actually stereo.
post #7004 of 7167
Streaming through ps3 slim.
post #7005 of 7167
So here is a question for you guys. I have a separate pool area with speakers. I have a spare cat6 cable running from my house basement to the pool area where there is currently a AudioSource AMP-100 Stereo Power Amplifier (that I got on amazon). The pool house has a small PC that is has an app so I can use my IP phone to call the pool PC Speakers (output of hte PC goes into the Amp which is connected to the speakers). The PC has an Airplay emulation software so I can play tunes at the pool.

So I thought it would be nice for the house airplay to play all the outdoor speakers. So with the cat6, I bought this from monoprice: Audio extension over cat5.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10105&cs_id=1010502&p_id=3597&seq=1&format=2

So I have the RCA’s plugged into the Zone2 RCA plugs in the back.

Its not working, I don’t know if I have zone 2 turned off (it does say Z2) on the unit.

I have it going into the input of the amp (input 1 is the cat5 extension).


I tried to cut open the RCA part of the wire but it has an inner & outer and I don’t know if they get spliced all together on the right channel, or if only the center part of the wire is plugged into the speaker.

How can I go from RCA to the banana plugs?

Should this all work?
post #7006 of 7167
Thread Starter 
I'm a little confused about your setup. You mention in your post that you have a dedicated PC in the pool house that receives the Airplay signal and plays the audio directly on the pool house speakers (powered by the AudioSource AMP-100). It sounds like you are beaming Airplay straight to the PC, then feeding the audio output from the PC to the RCA inputs on the AMP-100, which powers the speakers. Correct?

So now, what are you trying to do with Zone 2 of the 2310CI? Are you trying to use the Zone 2 from the 2310 as an alternate audio source to feed the pool house speakers? What sources are you trying to feed this way? How is the audio getting from the 2310 to the pool house speakers? Are you trying to go direct RCA (using the adapters and the CAT6 cable) from the 2310 to the AMP-100 (taking the PC out of the loop)?

Trying to splice this low level (RCA) connection to a speaker wire (high level) connection sounds like a horrible idea. Before you do something so drastic, you first need to troubleshoot the whole setup and understand why it's not working. There are a lot of variables here but my suspicion is that it has to do with how you are trying to pipe the RCA audio over CAT6.

So the first thing I would do is remove that major variable. As a temporary experiment, drag the AMP-100 to the living room and connect it to the Zone 2 pre-outs of the 2310 via a standard RCA cable (Zone 2 output of the 2310 >>> RCA input on the AMP-100). Hook up a pair of speakers to the AMP-100 temporarily and verify that you can get Zone 2 to function properly without the CAT6 extension thing in the loop. If you can get that to work, then you know the issue is the CAT6 extender/adapter setup.

Also be aware of the Zone 2 limitations on the 2310 -- Zone 2 will pipe out analog sources only!
post #7007 of 7167
Thanks for getting back to me.

So in the pool, I have the following:

Amazon Amp Input #2
PC Running an Airplay application & a IP Phone program, both designed to use the speakers on the pool house.
Amazon Amp Input #1 - Monoprice audio expander

At the house I have the:

Denon
Speakers are hooked up to a monoprice speaker selector. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10903&cs_id=1090305&p_id=8230&seq=1&format=2
Airplay plugged into the DVR input

Speakers set as 5 channel stereo

What I want to do is to connect one of the outputs to any of the other channels (or zone 2), or even connect it to the speaker selector.

This way if i am playing something on the main house audio, it will play the same music on the pool speakers.

This way if I am just at the pool, I can play the pool airplay, if I am in party mode, I can play the same music inside & outside - everywhere.


To connect the pool speakers to the house denon.

Pool: From Amp input #1, RCA to 3.5mm cable, plugged into the monoprice audio extender, over cat6, then inside the house, audio extender to 3.5mm, to RCA which is plugged into the zone 2 output (centerish bottom):

Is there another way to try this?

post #7008 of 7167
Thread Starter 
I will reiterate my suggestion above -- the first thing you need to do is take the CAT6 extension out of the loop to verify that you are getting proper Zone 2 function.

I am still confused by how you worded a couple of points:

1. "Airplay plugged into the DVR input" -- what does this mean? What are you using to provide Airplay to the 2310 (e.g. an Airport Express? an Apple TV?)? How are you connected, using analog, optical, or HDMI (remember analog only to Zone 2!!)

2. "Speakers are hooked up to a monoprice speaker selector." -- are you referring to the Main Zone speaker setup, and if so, what is the point of this? Does it have anything to do with Zone 2??
post #7009 of 7167
Sorry:

#1 - I have an airport express & am using a 3.5mm to RCA plug using the denon DVR input.
#2 - It is the main zone setup I am refering to. I have 4 rooms & one set of outside speakers plugged into it, then into the goes into the "A" L & R speaker area.

I would be OK plugging this into the "B" L & R for testing if that is possible.

Either way, I will pull out the amp for testing. So I need the amp & a speaker or two for testing.

If that works, then what would be my next steps?

Thanks,
Rich
post #7010 of 7167
So apparently if you dont set zone 2 to dvr (same as zone1) nothing happens smile.gif

After I realized that I did a test & it does work (somehow).

The only other thing I did was to put the set of outdoor speakers (the ones in the house that were on the speaker selector) onto the zone2 'banana plug' leads. It still works fine on both zone 2 outs for the speakers.



My last issue, is that inside the house, if I put the music at a good 'background noise' level, its almost to quiet to hear outside. I am only using the system with airplay.

If I put it on while outside & set that for a similar background noise level its way to loud in the house.

Any ideas on how to fix that? I set the zone 2 volume much higher than zone 1. I am guessing that the Airport express is regulating all volume to the same levels?
post #7011 of 7167
Sounds like the speakers are still connected to the Front B speaker posts? If yes, reconnect them to the Surr Back/Amp Assign posts and set Amp Assign to Zone 2 which will then give you independent volume control to Zone 2.
post #7012 of 7167
Hi everybody, I'm having a problem with my 2310CI. It's worked great for over three years now but just the other day the sound quit on it. It looks like it detects the inputs properly (switches to DTS when appropriate, etc) but the speakers seem to have gone missing? Check out the image below. Only the FL and FR speakers are showing, and they aren't making any sound! I have 5.1 speakers hooked up ... up until this happened the little lights always showed up for all 5 speakers + the subwoofer.

For the heck of it, I tried plugging in the Audyssey microphone just to see if it would detect the speakers but nothing happens. I'm also not able to enter the Audyssey setup manually. I don't know if this is a related issue.

I also tried hitting the Speaker button on the front panel of the receiver but it's not doing anything, either.

Oh and turning the volume up and down has no effect, either :-)

Any ideas?

Thanks!

post #7013 of 7167
Try blowing some compressed air into the headphone jack or insert/remove a headphone plug a few times. If still no joy, then reset the microprocessor (p. 70 OM).
post #7014 of 7167
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try blowing some compressed air into the headphone jack or insert/remove a headphone plug a few times. If still no joy, then reset the microprocessor (p. 70 OM).

Thanks for your response jdsmoothie, yes I did try this but to no avail. The microphone is still not detected. Perhaps it's defective ... or maybe this problem is related to the more pressing problem of the speakers not being detected ...

Note that I did try resetting the microprocessor, again no joy there.
post #7015 of 7167
Try unplugging the unit for 10 minutes, then try resetting the microprocessor a few more times. Does the TUNER work at all?
post #7016 of 7167
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try unplugging the unit for 10 minutes, then try resetting the microprocessor a few more times. Does the TUNER work at all?

Thanks JD I tried leaving it unplugged over night, reset the microprocessor a few more times, and no joy. No sound out of the tuner either. Only way I can get any sound at all is to pass HDMI source through to HDMI television and listen on the TV speakers.
post #7017 of 7167
Try cycling the HDMI Control setting OFF/ON/OFF.
post #7018 of 7167
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try cycling the HDMI Control setting OFF/ON/OFF.

OK JD I tried that and didn't see any change. Speakers still not making noise and Audyssey microphone not detected.
post #7019 of 7167
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Originally Posted by boozedog View Post

OK JD I tried that and didn't see any change. Speakers still not making noise and Audyssey microphone not detected.

Hi boozedog, this may not solve you current issue, but do you have sufficient ventillation around your 2310? Heat buildup is usually public enemy #1 for solid state devices like an AVR that can easily (easier than thought) lead to malfuncioning over time. I have my 2310 cleared especially over the top about 2-3 inches. Some pix of my setup in my sig.
post #7020 of 7167
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Originally Posted by mogorf View Post

Hi boozedog, this may not solve you current issue, but do you have sufficient ventillation around your 2310? Heat buildup is usually public enemy #1 for solid state devices like an AVR that can easily (easier than thought) lead to malfuncioning over time. I have my 2310 cleared especially over the top about 2-3 inches. Some pix of my setup in my sig.

Thanks mogorf, yes I have 2.5 inches of clearance above and I'm not detecting any heat buildup. It's not in an enclosed space -- front and rear are open -- so it stays pretty cool.
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