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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Easy enough to confirm by connecting the Zone 2 speaker wires to the FL/FR speaker posts and the FL/FR speaker wires to the Zone 2 speaker posts.

Yeah, I hooked the Advent's up to the main front, and they are shot. It sounds like the woofers are fried.I hooked up my Paradigm bookshelfs out on the deck, played some Wu Tang Clan through my S3, and they sound great. I think I'm going to replace them with these. They have some really good reviews, and for the little amount of times I use them, they should be good.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001VGFKW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
post #7052 of 7166
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Try setting HDMI-CEC (eg. Anynet+, VierraLink, BraviaSync, etc.) on your TV to OFF. Also a snowy picture can be the result of a defective HDMI cable so try also replacing your cable(s). HDMI cables can be purchased from forum sponsor Monoprice for < $5.
The receiver has been working fine for more than two years and its never given me any problems until now. I bought a couple of nice (MediaBridge) HDMI cables from Amazon and replaced the ones from (HDP) HDMI 2, (SAT/CABLE) HDMI3 but the problem still persists. I swapped the two around and assigned it to their appropriate sources and guess what....my Cable TV (which is now plugged in to HDP HDMI 2) is having problems, it wouldn't display anything. The screen went completely blank, occasionally it will try to display something (flickering) but most of the time it just goes blank! I did a reset on the cable box by unplugging/plug the power cable, swapped it back to the previous (Cab/Sat) HDMI 3 port, WD Player back to (HDP) HDMI 2 port and it seemed to work fine again, except for the latter being a bit iffy. In the end I decided to use one of the available 'virgin' ports: (V. Aux) HDMI5 and assigned it to the WD instead. It worked out well w/o issues....for now.

I have a very strong feeling that my board is on its way out, it's just a matter of time now. These are early warning signs and symptoms. HDMI just plain out sucks. I did a search and couldn't believe the numerous HDMI board failures, this includes all the top major brands with Onkyo being on top of the list, and the more expensive 43XX series Denons. The board for our receiver is long gone and discontinued, I wonder if there are ways to fix it by locating and replacing bad caps like some of the Onkyo owners have successfully done. I haven't tried hard-resetting the unit yet and still hoping that I am wrong, but these HDMI business is giving me the chills.
post #7053 of 7166
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yes, you could connect the speakers to the Front B speaker posts and play an HDMI source to them. Note however that these speaker posts are connected in parallel with the Front A speaker posts so the impedance of the 4 speakers (if originally 8 ohm) will all be reduced to 4 ohm placing a much harder load on the 890. Also, the Front B volume control would be the same level as the Front A speakers. You may want to try to connect a 3.5mm to RCA (red/white) cable to the mic output on the PC which would give you the analog source audio required to play to Zone 2 so you could have independent source and volume to Zone 2.

I just tried hooking up my pc to the ipod input on the back of the receiver using a 3.5mm to rca cable. For some reason, there is a pretty loud buzzing sound coming from the speakers on the deck with this connection. I tried my turntable, Galaxy S3, and tablet, all using the same cable. None of them are making the buzzing sound, only the pc. I tried the front and rear connections on the pc, and even tried my son's newly built pc. Both of our computers are making the buzzing sound through the speakers. Any idea what could be causing this? My pc speakers and headphones don't make the buzzing sound when hooked to the pc, so I'm really confused.
post #7054 of 7166
Try each of the other analog inputs to see if the same issue presents.
post #7055 of 7166
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try each of the other analog inputs to see if the same issue presents.

I just tried every analog input, and every one is buzzing. I have a turntable hooked up to the phono inputs, and it makes absolutely no buzzing sound when I switch it to zone 2.
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I was having problems with some mkv's playing through my receiver, from my pc, using hdmi. I deleted all players and codecs from my pc, and started from scratch. I followed this setup guide http://juan2geek.com/media-player-classic-home-cinema-mpc-hc-and-madvr-setting/ , and all seems good, except one thing. I have a DTS mkv, and when I play it through the receiver, from my pc, the front of the receiver says Multi Channel In, and the pcm icon lights up. When I play the DTS mkv through my PS3, using the PS3 Media Server, the front of the receiver says DTS Surround, but the pcm icon is NOT lit up. Am I getting DTS audio, when the receiver says Multi Channel In, and the pcm icon is lit?
post #7057 of 7166
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Originally Posted by biglen View Post

I just tried every analog input, and every one is buzzing. I have a turntable hooked up to the phono inputs, and it makes absolutely no buzzing sound when I switch it to zone 2.

Is the PC on battery power or plugged in to the wall? If the latter, try it on battery power or plug it into the same outlet as the AVR. You may also want to try adding a line audio isolator.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10844&cs_id=1084402&p_id=6909&seq=1&format=2

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I was having problems with some mkv's playing through my receiver, from my pc, using hdmi. I deleted all players and codecs from my pc, and started from scratch. I followed this setup guide http://juan2geek.com/media-player-classic-home-cinema-mpc-hc-and-madvr-setting/ , and all seems good, except one thing. I have a DTS mkv, and when I play it through the receiver, from my pc, the front of the receiver says Multi Channel In, and the pcm icon lights up. When I play the DTS mkv through my PS3, using the PS3 Media Server, the front of the receiver says DTS Surround, but the pcm icon is NOT lit up. Am I getting DTS audio, when the receiver says Multi Channel In, and the pcm icon is lit?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_L25
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Originally Posted by biglen View Post

I was having problems with some mkv's playing through my receiver, from my pc, using hdmi. I deleted all players and codecs from my pc, and started from scratch. I followed this setup guide http://juan2geek.com/media-player-classic-home-cinema-mpc-hc-and-madvr-setting/ , and all seems good, except one thing. I have a DTS mkv, and when I play it through the receiver, from my pc, the front of the receiver says Multi Channel In, and the pcm icon lights up. When I play the DTS mkv through my PS3, using the PS3 Media Server, the front of the receiver says DTS Surround, but the pcm icon is NOT lit up. Am I getting DTS audio, when the receiver says Multi Channel In, and the pcm icon is lit?

Yes, you are getting DTS, but since the player itself is decoding it the 2310 already gets discrete channels (in PCM), hence the " Mult ch in" display. You can verify this by looking at the input indicators on the left side of the display. Are all 5 + 1 lit? smile.gif
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Is the PC on battery power or plugged in to the wall? If the latter, try it on battery power or plug it into the same outlet as the AVR. You may also want to try adding a line audio isolator.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10844&cs_id=1084402&p_id=6909&seq=1&format=2
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_L25

The pc is plugged into the wall, and it's a desktop, so no battery power. It's too far from my receiver to plug it into the same outlet. I went ahead and ordered the ground loop isolator from monoprice.

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Originally Posted by mogorf View Post

Yes, you are getting DTS, but since the player itself is decoding it the 2310 already gets discrete channels (in PCM), hence the " Mult ch in" display. You can verify this by looking at the input indicators on the left side of the display. Are all 5 + 1 lit? smile.gif

All 5.1 lights are lit up. Thanks to both of you for all the info. Would the 2 of you agree on that tutorial I used to set up MPC-HC, or are there better ways to do it? Also, should I do this? :

Optional - Advanced DTS and DTS-HD Decoding
- This is only for those who don’t bitstream DTS or DTS-HD.
- Search the arcsoft TMT folder for a file called dtsdecoderdll.dll. Then copy this file into the same folder that LAVaudio.ax is in.
- This will allow high quality DTS and DTS-HD decoding through LAV audio.
Edited by biglen - 7/13/13 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by biglen View Post

The pc is plugged into the wall, and it's a desktop, so no battery power. It's too far from my receiver to plug it into the same outlet. I went ahead and ordered the ground loop isolator from monoprice.
All 5.1 lights are lit up. Thanks to both of you for all the info. Would the 2 of you agree on that tutorial I used to set up MPC-HC, or are there better ways to do it? Also, should I do this? :

Optional - Advanced DTS and DTS-HD Decoding
- This is only for those who don’t bitstream DTS or DTS-HD.
- Search the arcsoft TMT folder for a file called dtsdecoderdll.dll. Then copy this file into the same folder that LAVaudio.ax is in.
- This will allow high quality DTS and DTS-HD decoding through LAV audio.

IMHO, "high quality" decoding can be done either in the player or in the AVR (your 2310). It really doesn't matter, of if it does it's kinda placebo! LOL
post #7061 of 7166
Does zone 2 have bass and treble adjustment?
post #7062 of 7166
It does on the 3310CI and this year's X3000 and X4000, but not on the 2310CI.
post #7063 of 7166
JD, My HDMI repair didn't go so well. I do now have output from HDMI out to TV but cannot get any of the HDMI inputs to work or be recognized. Is there something I am missing ? I've tried every assignment & HDMI port there is. I can get components to work though and may just reset it up with all component devices. Does the analog still get upgraded on the video side ? If so I may just use the receiver that way until I can afford a newer model. Thanks Mike N
post #7064 of 7166
First try doing several microprocessor resets (p. 70 OM) in succession as HDMI connections should be plug-n-play. Did you opt for receiving the HDMI board only or did you send it in for repair? Either way, either take the insurance money and purchase something newer, or send it back to PanurgyOEM for repair. All analog video inputs can be converted to HDMI output.
post #7065 of 7166
I have the AVR 2310CI. I love the receiver but my powered svs subwoofer works only once in a while. I have to play with my setting for quite some time, but have never been able to find out what is wrong with it. Its not the subwoofer as it works on another setup. Can anyone help me?
post #7066 of 7166
Thread Starter 
Does your subwoofer have an auto-on circuit? If so, check the subwoofer channel level, if it's very far to the negative (e.g. -10) the voltage of the sub pre-out could be low enough that it has problems triggering the auto-on circuitry.

If so, you could try lowering the gain on the sub and then re-running Audyssey, and then getting a higher subwoofer trim as a result. As a temp test you could just do this manually without re-running Audyssey (e.g. lower gain on sub, bump up channel volume for sub to +5 or something).
post #7067 of 7166
I just ordered a Raspberry Pi to run XBMC on it. The Pi has CEC capability, and I know my Denon 890 has HDMI control. Will I be able to control the Pi with the 890 remote?
post #7068 of 7166
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HDMI CEC would only provide for ON/OFF capability .. so likely OFF and possibly ON as well.
post #7069 of 7166
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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HDMI CEC would only provide for ON/OFF capability .. so likely OFF and possibly ON as well.

So the 890 doesn't have true CEC capabilities?
post #7070 of 7166
Yes. HDMI-CEC is ON/OFF. Consider purchasing a Harmony remote if you want to "control" your devices doing more than just ON/OFF.
post #7071 of 7166

Hi Guys, Just Joined this forum!! Greetings from Brazil!! 
 
2 questions: 
 
1) I probably did something stupid with my 2310CI, since I get the felling that no DTS or 7.1 sound is coming from the speakers. I think that I am only getting sound from the 3 frontal ones. Is there an option that I can select so the receiver would automatically choose the best way (e.g. Stereo, Mono, 5.1, 7.1 etc) according to the source?

 

2) How can I get the firmware update and how should I upgrade it?

 

Thanks a lot for your help and patience

 

Fabio

 

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post #7072 of 7166
I'm hooking up a turntable (Pro-Ject Debut III) to the phono RCA's on the AVR-890.

- Do I need to do anything to the grounding peg on the receiver? This turntable does not have a ground wire, only RCA out. I'm getting a lot of noise.

Also, for some reason I get sound out of the center channel and the REAR left and REAR right - instead of FL, FR. Is there a particular setting I'm missing here?

I've read that this receiver has a decent pre-amp -- would it be beneficial to get another dedicated pre-amp to lead into the receiver between the turntable?

Any suggestions on improving audio quality with this setup would be appreciated.
post #7073 of 7166
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Check for a screw on the turntable that can be used to connect a ground wire to the AVR.
post #7074 of 7166
My FR channel recently stopped working (hadn't changed any wiring or anything.) I finally got around to attempting some simple troubleshooting by swapping wires and speakers into that channel on the rear of the unit, but I still get no audio. I'm going out now to get some banana plugs to further narrow down other possible causes, but since I cut all new wire and made it very short during testing, I'm fairly certain it's not a connectivity issue.

My extended warranty just expired a month ago, is there anything else worth trying?

I'm open to opening the unit and attempting a microprocessor reset if there's a possibility it could fix the issue - is there a guide on performing this for this particular model?

I think if it comes down to needing to have the unit serviced, I might as well opt for a new receiver, since most service centers only offer 30 day warranties on the same issue recurring with COD out of pocket repairs.
post #7075 of 7166
Reset procedure is listed on p. 70 in your Owner's manual.
post #7076 of 7166
Thanks, didn't realize it was a soft reset - assumed it was a physical button or jumper or something on the inside of the unit. It worked and my channel has been restored.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Check for a screw on the turntable that can be used to connect a ground wire to the AVR.

After this post, I actually realized there is a grounding wire on the turntable as a small pigtail and a 'U' shaped grounding "fork" on the end.

How can I extend this type of wire and safely attach it to the inside of the Denon's ground terminal peg? Is there a particular gauge of wire I could look for (assuming any will do, is there a recommendation?) My receiver is on an opposite wall from my TT.

I'm considering using speaker wire - I'm assuming this stuff is safe to use and multi-purpose. biggrin.gif
Edited by horsemeat - 10/19/13 at 11:35pm
post #7077 of 7166
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If you are not hearing any buzzing noise from the turntable, than no grounding wire is likely required, however, if required, any guage should do if it resolves the buzzing issue.
post #7078 of 7166
Before consulting this thread to determine that I had dust in the headphone jack problem, I did a reset and, thus lost all settings. The one setting that I have not recovered is that I somehow mapped the V1 HDMI In port (for my AppleTV) to the TV button on remote. In the setup menu, HDMI is not an available option for TV. So, how did I do it in the first place? It now takes me 3 or 4 clicks to get to the AppleTV when I used to be able to do it in one. Any help to remind me of how to do remap would be appreciated.

Thanks,

brettwf
post #7079 of 7166
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Set HDMI Control to OFF for that source.
post #7080 of 7166
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Set HDMI Control to OFF for that source.

So, while I am fixing the above, is there a fix for keeping a constant picture format transmission to HDTV? Scenerio: when changing channels get alot of handshaking going on and sometimes video signal is lost. Setup: DirecTV HD-DVR to Denon 2310 to Rocket Fish Wireless HDMI to Sony 60A2000. Seems like it is occuring when going from an HD channel to a non-HD channel. Before wireless HDMI, I would get the handshaking problem but no video loss. When video is lost, have to either turn off the wireless receiver or the transmitter or both to reestablish the video link. A co-worker had similar problem with his cable signal thru his Onkyo receiver and the workaround was using the second HDMI out for his analog channels.
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