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post #91 of 4027
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

no, it absolutely does. That's why they are calling it a "9.3" receiver, it has nine amps and nine channels of processing, so you can do any 9 channel configuration (e.g. 5.1 + height + wide).

see the DSX page for the possible 7.1 and 9.1 configs:
http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dsx.html

Ah - OK I see, but at the cost of the surround back channels.
post #92 of 4027
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The settings are:
"1SP"
"2SP L/R"
"2SP MIX"
"3SP L/R/LFE"
"3SP MIX"

Cool 3SP L/R/LFE will be perfect for some Polk RT 3000P's (now I need to find some) + a bigger lower sub.
post #93 of 4027
what are the main differences between the Onkyos (3007/5007) and this one? The Onkyos add THX and use Reon and the Denon uses ABT. Another other big differences?

Perhaps Denon has more sub controls and more Audessey curves plus the installer ready version?
post #94 of 4027
so for som1 that wants 7.1 PLUS height and wide dsx, they'd have to keep waiting?

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Ah - OK I see, but at the cost of the surround back channels.
post #95 of 4027
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Originally Posted by JediFonger View Post

so for som1 that wants 7.1 PLUS height and wide dsx, they'd have to keep waiting?

Yeah 11.1 (or 11.3). As I said perhaps the AVR-5311CI will be 11.3.

Speaker manufacturers must be delighted!
post #96 of 4027
and so are wives markb! . i'm so happy i'm not married . lol.
post #97 of 4027
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Originally Posted by JediFonger View Post

and so are wives markb! . i'm so happy i'm not married . lol.

nice......... rub it in
post #98 of 4027
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Originally Posted by JediFonger View Post

and so are wives markb! . i'm so happy i'm not married . lol.

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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher View Post

nice......... rub it in

LOL! My girlfriend is very accepting of my hobbies, but I had the AVP and POA and a load of B&W 800 series speakers. I'm now going to lots of smaller on-wall speakers with subs and smaller amp she has sighed with relief!
post #99 of 4027
Is it "final" or "clear" which version this AVR will be supporting??? Not that it matters too much for current equipment but it'd be nice to know if there is some "future proofing" in this unit or not.

If 1.3 for sure, then the title of this thread should be corrected.

Or, is it feasible that some of these features will be upgraded in future firmware releases (for a fee or not)? I have an "aging" (but still very capable) 4802 that the 4810 will likely replace so having any kind of protection as to feature sets is welcome.
post #100 of 4027
duck, if i were eying this AVR, i'd kind of require 1.4 because 1.4 has 3-D implementation. i want my AVR to at least SWITCH for upcoming upgraded blu-ray players based on 3-D spec and HDTVs that will accept 1.4. otherwise, you'll need to buy a SEPARATE HDMI switch for 1.4 when THAT comes out. 1.4 isn't just a software thing, u'll need built-in HDCP chips to comply as well! HERE'S even MORE handshake problems! lol. y didn't the 1.4 spex exist in 1.0? =P no1 thinx that far ahead i guess.

i personally would have included all the way upto 16k, holographic and transporter technology already, even if we haven't use for it now .
post #101 of 4027
Any news?
post #102 of 4027
I have it on pre order.
post #103 of 4027
Have you been given a release date for your Preorder? I still haven't seen anything official from Denon.

A Denon dealer here in Australia has mentioned an October release date.
post #104 of 4027
The AVR-4810CI specs via a blog post I just found here.

http://www.avclubhouse.com/?p=1084&preview=true
post #105 of 4027
Nothing here in the UK yet either.
post #106 of 4027
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Originally Posted by ApoDoc View Post

The AVR-4810CI specs via a blog post I just found here.

http://www.avclubhouse.com/?p=1084&preview=true

good find! The first good photo of the rear panel I have seen.




Things I notice:

- Zone 2 component video output (something which was on the 4308CI but dropped on the 4310CI, again indicating this is the "true" replacement for 4308CI)

- a lot of binding posts -- I count FIFTEEN pairs of binding posts. The text is hard to make out, but I see dedicated binding posts for Zone 2 and Zone 3, which leaves 11 for Main Zone. There are the standard 5.1, a pair marked "height/wide", and I can't make out the other two.

The fact that one pair of binding posts appears to be marked "height/wide" does not bode well for being able to run heights+wides at the same time.
post #107 of 4027
the ones that are hard to make out are labeled "Bi-wire/Bi-amp" and "S.Back/F.Height/F.Wide"
post #108 of 4027
ooohhhh... thanks! that sounds very promising for the 5.1+wide+height setup, since two separate pairs of binding posts are labeled with "height" and "wide" as assignment options.

this is the first time I've seen separate binding posts for Zone 2/3 versus the "amp assign" surr.back posts. Perhaps the receiver will allow a "switching" feature a la Onkyo's, where you can have it switch to 5.1 config when powering Zone 2/3 (thus allowing you to not have to use the Zone 2/3 pre-outs just because you are running 7.1/9.1 in Main Zone).
post #109 of 4027
thanks batpig for all the research =).

hopefully 4812CI will enable both height and width channels .

PS still no confirmation of 1.4 yet? i'd think that'd be min. requirement since 3-D is definitely coming and people would want to buy this today and keep it for @least 4-5 yrs =P
post #110 of 4027
4812!?!?!
post #111 of 4027
My undertanding is with the addition of a 2 channel power amp, the 4810 will run an 11.3 setup ...and it will switch amps on the fly for multi-zone
post #112 of 4027
wow, I do count 14 pre-outs, that would be 11 channels + 3 subs! if it can actually do a TRUE 11-channel setup (with two extra amps) that will be a HUGE trump card for high end setups with those also considering the Onkyo 5007.
post #113 of 4027
This part specifies 11.3 pre-outs. 7.3 normal and 4 for height and width.


This one looks pretty good. HDMI 1.4 would be nice, but even without it this amp can do everything I'll want for the near future. Granted I say that now...

*update* I just saw near the bottom of the page just above the pic of the remote it says HDMI 1.3a.
post #114 of 4027
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... again indicating this is the "true" replacement for 4308CI)

Are you saying that it really isn't a replacement for the Denon AVR 48XX series?
post #115 of 4027
Nice one great find!
post #116 of 4027
Thread Starter 
Looks good. No HDMI 1.4 no biggie. Would of liked to see THX approval but again so be it. My 4308 didn't have THX stamp and I love that so it looks like this could be the replacememt for it.
post #117 of 4027
Keith:

Thanks for the bad news. Sadly, the HDMI 1.3A spec is a deal breaker for me.

I would have choosen the 4810 over the 3007 that I was planing to buy, due to the 4810's height AND width (at the same time) DSX capability.

I need 3D BD capability in order to spend $3K on a receiver, for I know that I'll want 3D BD in my HT ASAP.

A 3D BD setup will cost $$$$$ for a player, receiver, and a projector. I plan on purchasing one piece of gear at a time (I'm not rich).

If the 4810 had HDMI 1.4, and if it was compatible with the BDA's upcoming 3D BD format, I'd get on a preorder list for one ASAP.

It looks like my first piece of 3D gear will be the upcoming Panny or Sony 3D BD player.

Until then, I'll keep using my cheap Mag 530 BD player, and my ancient Denon 2307.
post #118 of 4027
ha! "ancient" for a 3-year old receiver!
post #119 of 4027
I haven't seen anything specific on this new 3D standard. Supposedly my LED DLP is supposed to support some sort of 3D, but it definitely doesn't support HDMI 1.4. Is this stuff even close to being widely available? Is the standard set? Will there be any receivers in the next few years supporting 1.4? Why can't 1.3 support it?

As it is I am able to get Denon products at a pretty good discount, so I think the 4810 will be a nice upgrade from my Onkyo TX-SR875. There's a few things in the Denon I'd like to get, and I'm hoping it'll run a lot cooler than the Onkyo.
post #120 of 4027
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Originally Posted by apodoc View Post

the avr-4810ci specs via a blog post i just found here.

http://www.avclubhouse.com/?p=1084&preview=true


thank you!!
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