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post #91 of 137
Have to highly disagree, Watched it twice last night. An utterly sublime viewing experience, with so many joyous little winks to other movies.
post #92 of 137
In regards to the last 2 posts, I would put the movie somewhere in between. It was definitely an enjoyable experience, but I don't think this movie is on par with some of the pixar movies like The Incredibles or Monsters,Inc.
post #93 of 137
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

In regards to the last 2 posts, I would put the movie somewhere in between. It was definitely an enjoyable experience, but I don't think this movie is on par with some of the pixar movies like The Incredibles or Monsters,Inc.

well to be fair you shouldn't compare any other animated movie to a pixar movie, it's just not fair to the non pixar movie. you need to compare it to other non-pixar movies
post #94 of 137
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Originally Posted by CoreyM View Post

You should have been there for Iron Man. She was convinced I bought a new sub. Which I did, 2 or 3 years ago. Statute of limitations long expired.

Ha ha awesome! Part of the home theater code/mantra!
post #95 of 137
Audio-wise, I agree with some who said the bass should've had more to it.
The scene with the gigantic robot in San Francisco, just before he steps on BOB - I smiled, thinking "oh yes, this will sound sweet"

Only to realize it was so subdued (the footsteps should sound MASSIVE when he's stepping over us). I never saw this in the theater, but I doubt it would've sounded so weak in the theater.

The overall sound is good, but not reference or memorable. Quite a few missed opportunities.
post #96 of 137
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Originally Posted by soul embrace View Post

well to be fair you shouldn't compare any other animated movie to a pixar movie, it's just not fair to the non pixar movie. you need to compare it to other non-pixar movies

In general this is true, but there are some exceptions. For example, Kung Fu Panda holds up well against any Pixar movie.
post #97 of 137
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

In general this is true, but there are some exceptions. For example, Kung Fu Panda holds up well against any Pixar movie.

Agreed. M vs A actually seemed extremely similar in sound design to Kung Fu Panda which is still the animated audio King IMO, but M vs A is right there with it IMO. Reference track IMO
post #98 of 137
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

In regards to the last 2 posts, I would put the movie somewhere in between. It was definitely an enjoyable experience, but I don't think this movie is on par with some of the pixar movies like The Incredibles or Monsters,Inc.

Pixar aren't the cat's pyjamas IMO. I couldn't stand Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, Cars or Wall-E. But then I'm broken.
post #99 of 137
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Originally Posted by raoul_duke View Post

Pixar aren't the cat's pyjamas IMO. I couldn't stand Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, Cars or Wall-E. But then I'm broken.

I'm not a big fan of Ratatouille either, but all 4 Pixar movies you mention are destined to be modern day classics.
post #100 of 137
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Agreed. M vs A actually seemed extremely similar in sound design to Kung Fu Panda which is still the animated audio King IMO, but M vs A is right there with it IMO. Reference track IMO

Both movies are definitely reference audio. I was watching KFP the other night and was amazed with the surround action on that track.
post #101 of 137
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Originally Posted by raoul_duke View Post

Pixar aren't the cat's pyjamas IMO. I couldn't stand Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, Cars or Wall-E. But then I'm broken.


... You called M vs A an utterly sublime viewing experience but then couldn't stand Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, Cars or Wall-E .

Bro, me thinks you drink to many milkshakes with added incentive
post #102 of 137
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Originally Posted by Columbo345 View Post

Audio-wise, I agree with some who said the bass should've had more to it.
The scene with the gigantic robot in San Francisco, just before he steps on BOB - I smiled, thinking "oh yes, this will sound sweet"

Only to realize it was so subdued (the footsteps should sound MASSIVE when he's stepping over us). I never saw this in the theater, but I doubt it would've sounded so weak in the theater.

The overall sound is good, but not reference or memorable. Quite a few missed opportunities.

I find this with a lot of movies. An inconsistency of LFE. You get a nice LFE in one scene and then in another when logic says there should be a bigger boom or rumble you get the same or less. Kind of a "huh?" moment for me.
post #103 of 137
I posted my thoughts on the inconsistency of the low frequencies in the audio tier thread on release day. Great sound, just didn't hit when I expected it to sometimes.
post #104 of 137
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Agreed. M vs A actually seemed extremely similar in sound design to Kung Fu Panda which is still the animated audio King IMO, but M vs A is right there with it IMO. Reference track IMO

i was talking about movie as a whole not just the audio portion of it.


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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

In general this is true, but there are some exceptions. For example, Kung Fu Panda holds up well against any Pixar movie.

i liked kung fu panda but no where near as much as i like all of pixar movies.

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Originally Posted by raoul_duke View Post

Pixar aren't the cat's pyjamas IMO. I couldn't stand Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, Cars or Wall-E. But then I'm broken.

i would agree with the bolded part....
post #105 of 137
I received my rental copy of this movie in the mail today and watched it. Great movie! Better than I expected.
post #106 of 137
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

I'm not a big fan of Ratatouille either, but all 4 Pixar movies you mention are destined to be modern day classics.

I saw Ratatouille at the theater with my daughter who was 8 at the time. She enjoyed it and I enjoyed that she liked it so much. It did not do much for me. When it came out on bluray my 3 year old took a great liking to it and we watched it over and over again. Funny thing was the more I saw it the more I enjoyed it to where now it is one of my favorite animated kids movies. The killer aq and iq do not hurt either.
post #107 of 137
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Originally Posted by soul embrace View Post

i was talking about movie as a whole not just the audio portion of it.

Ooops my fault In general, I agree with that
post #108 of 137
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

I'm not a big fan of Ratatouille either, but all 4 Pixar movies you mention are destined to be modern day classics.

I thought that would be controversial, haha!
I find the word 'classic' to be purely subjective, something that the hive-mind in various quarters fail to compute.
post #109 of 137
Not too bad of a movie, I liked it.
post #110 of 137
BEST part was the keyboard sequence.
post #111 of 137
I got some good laughs out of this and enjoyed it more than Up 3-D. Me and my youngster got a bit bored during Up, not so with M v A. Definitely more gags. Looking forward to seeing it again on BR.
post #112 of 137
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Originally Posted by Spoonsey View Post

I got some good laughs out of this and enjoyed it more than Up 3-D. Me and my youngster got a bit bored during Up, not so with M v A. Definitely more gags. Looking forward to seeing it again on BR.

Ditto here. A little like last years Kung Fu Panda and Walle. KFP and MVA were "funner" than the more critically acclaimed and cerebral Walle and UP.
post #113 of 137
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

Ditto here. A little like last years Kung Fu Panda and Walle. KFP and MVA were "funner" than the more critically acclaimed and cerebral Walle and UP.

I kind of agree, although I've watched Wall E more than KFP. I was in a foul mood when we saw UP, and didn't quite get all the buzz around it. I was just plain bored. I'll give it another chance at home. Maybe it was just the mood I was in.
post #114 of 137
The funniest parts of UP were the scenes with the dogs with the voice boxes. My kids really laughed at those dogs.
post #115 of 137
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

The funniest parts of UP were the scenes with the dogs with the voice boxes. My kids really laughed at those dogs.

We liked that too. It was such a sentimental movie that I was not, I mean my three year old was not entertained consistently.
post #116 of 137
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

Ditto here. A little like last years Kung Fu Panda and Walle. KFP and MVA were "funner" than the more critically acclaimed and cerebral Walle and UP.

I liked MVA but not quite as much as KFP or some of the Pixar movies. I will say that the latest Pixar movies like Wall E and Up were good but I liked the more upbeat movies like the Incredibles, Toy Stories, and Monsters Inc. IMO KFP was better than some of the Pixar movies. MVA was good but I was hoping for a little more in the plot with the alien invasion portion. Still a good movie though. Bob's Big Break was good also.
post #117 of 137
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Originally Posted by markrdee View Post

Watched this movie last night.I couldn't wait until it was over.This movie was just plain bad.Not complaining about the pq or sq ,but the story itself.As the saying goes, "you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear."

Wow complete opposite here, this was probably my favorite CG animated movie since Toy Story 2. Could have been a little longer I thought, but I'm sure there's sequels a brewin'.

Amazing picture quality too, up there with the best I've seen.
post #118 of 137
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

I'm not a big fan of Ratatouille either, but all 4 Pixar movies you mention are destined to be modern day classics.

Not Cars.
post #119 of 137
I watched this today and felt it to be incredibly mediocre.

-Good premise, good animation, good voice acting

-A lot of baaaaaad dialogue/writing

This movie came off as though it was written by some college frat boys rather than by supposed adults whose jobs are to write movie scripts though judging by most movies made this decade it seems the fratboy like mentality is the norm since the goal seems to be to write for the lowest common denominator. Soooo many idiotic "jokes" that were not funny and other stupid lines. An example? When the Doc near the end says

"O M G"

Really? Give me a break. That is teenage girl texting type crap.

Is this really the type of dialogue parents want their kids to get used to? It is bad enough many adults in our north american society act like morons who don't give a rip about anything and have limited ability to socially interact in an intelligent and non-lazy manner (just look at the INSANE use of the term "whatever" people throw around in almost every sentence as proof) but do we need script writers to provide a helping hand in making kids go the same route? It is sad looking at the quality of writing this decade to the past and it will only get worse because people continually are showing they do not care about quality.

My favourite characters were B.O.B and Susan and I found the writing for their characters to be good. B.O.B's lines were the only that were often funny and Rogen did a great job there with his voice acting.

In the last week or two I've watched a handful of animation movies:

Wall-E, Ratatouille (rewatch), Bolt, Cars (rewatch), this

with the movie quality in that order and can say without question this was nowhere near those other 4 and this movie isn't even in the same league as the masterpiece known as Wall-E.

At least the pq and sound were nice and I am so glad I didn't blind buy this like I was planning to.

It is sad that big ticket animation movies used to be no-brainers to me for enjoyment but now they have become like every other genre where who the heck knows what I'll get. At least Pixar so far has been a continual string of hits and I can only hope Up is as good as Wall-E.
post #120 of 137
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Originally Posted by rlindo View Post

I watched this today and felt it to be incredibly mediocre.

-Good premise, good animation, good voice acting

-A lot of baaaaaad dialogue/writing

This movie came off as though it was written by some college frat boys rather than by supposed adults whose jobs are to write movie scripts though judging by most movies made this decade it seems the fratboy like mentality is the norm since the goal seems to be to write for the lowest common denominator. Soooo many idiotic "jokes" that were not funny and other stupid lines. An example? When the Doc near the end says

"O M G"

Really? Give me a break. That is teenage girl texting type crap.

Is this really the type of dialogue parents want their kids to get used to? It is bad enough many adults in our north american society act like morons who don't give a rip about anything and have limited ability to socially interact in an intelligent and non-lazy manner (just look at the INSANE use of the term "whatever" people throw around in almost every sentence as proof) but do we need script writers to provide a helping hand in making kids go the same route? It is sad looking at the quality of writing this decade to the past and it will only get worse because people continually are showing they do not care about quality.

My favourite characters were B.O.B and Susan and I found the writing for their characters to be good. B.O.B's lines were the only that were often funny and Rogen did a great job there with his voice acting.

In the last week or two I've watched a handful of animation movies:

Wall-E, Ratatouille (rewatch), Bolt, Cars (rewatch), this

with the movie quality in that order and can say without question this was nowhere near those other 4 and this movie isn't even in the same league as the masterpiece known as Wall-E.

Again, to each their own. I thought MvA was a very slick-written movie, myself. "OMG"? Guess what, it's a part of pop-culture language and those kinds of references are everywhere - late-night talks shows, cartoons, etc. - and it's a part of kids' social interaction. Generally most would agree this was a movie made primarily for young people, not grumpy old "get off my lawn"ers.

What's more, I really appreciated the quick pace of this film, not beating the various plot elements down my throat and leaving much more room for fun and laughs. Frankly, I find some Pixar movies to be way too heavy handed in their approach to establishing characters or moral dilemas as ones that we should care about. Ratatouille and Cars come to mind. They should be a lot more fun than they end up being, in my opinion, because Pixar seems to try and force us to feel whatever the characters are feeling, and it doesn't always connect. WALL-E a masterpiece? In what, animation? Ya it's cute, ya it holds up a mirror to American society and forces us to think, blah blah blah...but it isn't exactly Children of Men or something, sheesh. Just give us Toy Story 3 already.

Sorry, but MvA was a refreshing distraction from the Pixar empire for me, with the perfect amount of pop-culture nods and jokes for both adults and youngins to make it fun. And I actually want to give it repeat viewings (unlike Rats, Nemo, Wall-E, etc).
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